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The problem with the Prime Directive is that no two writers have ever portrayed it the same so it never has a consistent meaning. Sometimes it's an extremely sensible policy to not give nuclear bombs to cavemen. Other times it's about already space traveling civilizations be genocided because "We can't play God".
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Feb 20, 2020 09:21
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Someone needs to go find that GIF of Barclay's POV from that one TNG episode with the worms that abduct people while teleporting and he remains fully conscious through the whole process so we can shut up the whole "But the Transporter kills you!" brigade. edit: Between the worms, FunkyAI's clip, and the problems that occur every third episode there are a ton more sensible reasons to disavow transporters for pure safety reasons. galagazombie fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Mar 1, 2020 |
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Mar 1, 2020 16:20
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Obviously Granpa Sisko's Gumbo Bar makes him a brutal bourgeois overlord straight out of Warhammer 40K.
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Mar 4, 2020 18:40
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The Enterprise-D has an entire flooded section of the ship inhabited by Cetacean crew-members. If making your ship comfortable for Whales isn't accommodating I don't know what is. But on the subject of Prime Directive chat I'll say little good can come of it since every writer had a different idea of what its intent and wording was. Is it an order to not lord over the less tech advanced as tyrants or some weird way to excuse genocide? There really is no single answer.
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Mar 10, 2020 00:23
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CainFortea posted:There may not be any single answer, but we know that "genocide excuse" isn't one of them. Well yeah, what I'm saying is that sometimes the Prime Directive isn't that and sometimes it is. So you can't really debate it as a part of the setting, at best you can debate about it in a particular episode without broader context. SlothfulCobra posted:I believe you're thinking of Seaquest. Like Saucer Separation past the first season or "Stellar Cartography" it was something that's on the map of the ship and talked about in production materials (I think they even mention it in an early episode) that they ended up not having the budget or time to really do. Stellar Cartography at least got a redressed med-bay set in like season 6 or 7 when Picard learns that workplace romance is bad and finally got it's original concept realized in Generations. I think Cetacean crew was probably quietly swept under the rug since it seemed silly to have whales on the ship once the late 80's early 90's "Save the Whales" fad was no longer in vogue.
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Mar 10, 2020 01:16
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To be fair to the Bajorans all those negative traits they have like the caste system, religious fundamentalism, etc. are specifically portrayed as challenges to be overcome, not things to be celebrated.
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Mar 17, 2020 01:39
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So, uh, anyone ever think about how all the changed timelines due to time travel episodes in effect mean we've watched dozens of universal genocides?
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Mar 19, 2020 06:02
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SlothfulCobra posted:Eh, if you put it in those terms, you witness the universal genocide of potential timelines every day. But that's not really "Genocide" because it never actually existed, just the potential of it. When they erase a timeline in a time travel episode it actually no-poo poo exists complete with real fully sentient people and everything. Like when O'Brian from 5 hours in the future changed the timeline he murdered all the self-aware people beyond counting from the timeline where DS9 was destroyed.
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Mar 19, 2020 18:28
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Finger Prince posted:Effectively infinite. They mine more because they're expansionist. Infinite growth requires infinite resource extraction. If they stopped expanding, building new starships, space stations, weapons, colonies, replicators, holodecks, warp drives, etc., they wouldn't need to mine any more Dilithium. Whether you think it's good or bad the Federation does have the political unification of the entire galaxy under its flag as one of its stated goals. They may not vaporize you if you refuse like the Klingons do, but they will constantly nag you about it. I wouldn't be surprised if there are several member states that joined just to shut-up the constant badgering. "Yes I will join, just stop ringing my doorbell."
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Mar 29, 2020 06:32
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