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Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; La morte non ha sesso

Every time people debate things like droid personhood and the Prime Directive I'm just gobsmacked that there's a debate at all, and that adult human beings who have been sci-fi fans all their lives are incapable of making basic observations.

Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Mar 10, 2020

# ¿ Mar 10, 2020 16:16

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# ¿ Oct 4, 2024 14:59

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; La morte non ha sesso

Kesper North posted:

I am curious for posters' take on - if one insists on being a starfaring species with some form of organized government - whether it is preferable, morally and ethically, for an interstellar culture to practice total noninterference (as in avoidance and non-involvement, but might engage in reconnaissance and study from afar) with other cultures, or is it acceptable to intervene to save a species from extinction? Is it acceptable to intervene if someone from your culture is responsible for causing them harm? Is it acceptable to intervene if intervention is requested?

If you were a billionaire and you found someone passed out face-down in a puddle, wouldn't you drag them out, call an ambulance, and pay their bill?

# ¿ Mar 11, 2020 18:36

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; La morte non ha sesso

I mean if you were a billionaire, not if you were a billionaire.

# ¿ Mar 11, 2020 19:05

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; La morte non ha sesso

Chomp8645 posted:

Your post is so outrageously stupid that I have to assume you are arguing in bad faith or just trolling.

Great contribution! Thanks!

# ¿ Mar 11, 2020 21:21

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; La morte non ha sesso

CainFortea posted:

There are no prewarp noncitizens in the federation. So there's that. There are also zero pre-warp planets annexed by the federation. Actually i'm pretty sure there are no planets annexed by the federation.

And the augments aren't discriminated against, they're disallowed because they always kill a bunch of people and try to take over.

These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no one has gone before! And find new sources of dilithium!

The Federation is annexing people's whole solar systems without them being aware of it. It's usually couched in very careful terms. We have a scientific research station in their solar system, or on their moon, or just over a hill from the nearest settlement...

If we could steal all of Venezuela's oil without them ever knowing we were there, would it not be imperialism?

# ¿ Mar 11, 2020 22:09

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; La morte non ha sesso

CainFortea posted:

I don't think any of you knows what annexation means.

Also no, that isn't what happened with Bajor either.

Does anyone in this thread actually watch Star Trek?

Actually, you're the one who doesn't know what annexation means. That is what happened to Bajor. You don't watch Star Trek. And your haircut is stupid.

# ¿ Mar 12, 2020 00:39

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; La morte non ha sesso

CainFortea posted:

They aren't. Mystery solved.

Actually they are

# ¿ Mar 12, 2020 04:38

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; La morte non ha sesso

Finger Prince posted:

Let me get this straight, by this definition, America has annexed Cuba, Iran and North Korea,

Iran arguably, North Korea probably, and as for Cuba, are you loving dense?

Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Mar 12, 2020

# ¿ Mar 12, 2020 14:49

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; La morte non ha sesso

Actually, you are the one who doesn't know what it means. And your breath stinks.

# ¿ Mar 12, 2020 15:19

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; La morte non ha sesso

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

You have made repeated (direct and indirect) reference to this notion of �actual presentation�, which is evidently just a type of essentialism based in hypercredulity.

So, for example: Picard is simply good because we�re told he�s good. Transporter cloning can only ever occur accidentally because we�re never told otherwise. The Prime Directive is a great idea because we�re told it is, etc.

As noted earlier, I really hate Star Trek. But I�m really interested in how fandom can lead to this type of thought.

My hosed up brain recalls a really bitter argument on the RPGnet forums years ago, about whether or not Starfleet is a military organization. It simply isn't, many claim, because Picard says it isn't.

# ¿ Mar 17, 2020 19:00

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; La morte non ha sesso

Well, he was a union man.

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# ¿ Oct 4, 2024 14:59

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; La morte non ha sesso

I'm imagining one of those weird isolationist species from TNG that refuses to join the Federation and supposedly considers everyone else an inferior lifeform, and when they finally have to hail them it's just Matt Christman screaming SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 19:50

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