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Kitfox88 posted:I hope uli is doing ok these days uli is doing better than many of the posters in this very forum 
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I heard COVID springing up set them back a smidge but if they've bounced back from that I'm really glad for em
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Leperflesh posted:FidoNet Wonder if it's still around.
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apparently yes! there are still basically nostalgia BBSes out there and FidoNet is one of those things people use just because it's old, I guess
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i wish you could get a copper pair pots line anymore its all just voip adapters stuck onto whatever their internet service is now i think
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fidonet's around and it's five old men that just write more rules and grumble about "netiquette" there are some more chill ones but its still very greybeard
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Sniep posted:i wish you could get a copper pair pots line anymore you still can in most places it's ridiculously expensive for what it is after all of the taxes and fees (universal service fee, wireline maintenance fee, fee processing fee, etc...), and then you still get charged extra for "long distance" calls (based entirely on number structure and not location for the last 20 years), unless you pay the extra unlimited long distance fee I think basic pots service here ends up being something like $70 a month now, and that's for the version where you still pay per-minute to call someone with a different area code even if they are standing right next to you. it's not even terribly reliable anymore, because the equipment is aging, and the handful of old people who still use it end up losing service every time some bees get into a box
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Sniep posted:i wish you could get a copper pair pots line anymore it's copper wire in your house, if that makes you feel any better plus you don't want a home phone, it just gets spam calls all day
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The_Franz posted:you still can in most places confession time ok, this is yospos we have people with a stack of microcomputers, no one will care i have a copper POTS line just because I enjoy it. i like being able to hook my vintage rotary phone and fax machine to it. i like when I don't have to care if my phone is charged or in another room to make a call. i like testing it by looking for 48V with a multimeter. but yeah it's definitely more expensive than a VOIP plan or prepaid smartphone plan with data. the point about reliability is fair, there's definitely less upkeep of the copper plant, so I probably have to have someone out every couple years to troubleshoot the lines. the awesome thing is the POTS guys were like cool that I was into it and I had two of them give me their cell numbers and they just have me call them directly because they know the actual phone company is totally incompetent. One time they de-provisioned my line in the process of giving me a $5/mo discount, and insisted it was something a technician had to come fix. (Which I guess it kind of was since he was the only one competent enough to figre out they did that). It does have FREE LONG DISTANCE though. obviously it's a nerd splurge and will be getting replaced with VOIP should I need to cut costs though. also you're always looking over your shoulder because the phone company would love to get you off the service so they don't have to maintain it.
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copper pots lines are terrible. They're massively overpriced and they use the same backhaul as everything else except worse because they'll never be as good as a modern voip to voip call with a modern codec
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DELETE CASCADE posted:it's copper wire in your house, if that makes you feel any better its for faxing and modem use 100%, which actually do benefit from real copper vs. the voip 8khz band limited poo poo they give for voice in their fxo emulation
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you can get a voip ATA and plug it into your copper at home and not have to upgrade anything else, not even your pulse dial rotary phone
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we still have a copper pots line in this house because that's what my wife's 84yo mother is used to, plus she has some medical alert system that is tied into it. her late husband worked for the telco climbing poles, so naturally we have some weird rear end wiring going on
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memory unlocked in 2005 or so i had a powermac 6300 running asterisk, with a digium card providing dialtone to my apartment. my internet connection was dry dsl to speakeasy, and I connected asterisk to the pstn via some shady voip provider that let me set my outbound caller id to whatever
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cheque_some posted:i have a copper POTS line just because I enjoy it. i like being able to hook my vintage rotary phone and fax machine to it. mmmmm fax machine
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fax machines are garbage and should all be shot into the sun
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Shaggar posted:fax machines are garbage and should all be shot into the sun Finally, a good shaggar opinion
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fax machines are the proletariat of communication
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Shaggar posted:fax machines are garbage and should all be shot into the sun fax machines are great because you can make a crudely drawn picture of a dong materialize at your friends house
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thats fine, the problem is people use fax machines for other stuff that they really shouldnt like sending medical information
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Shaggar posted:thats fine, the problem is people use fax machines for other stuff that they really shouldnt like sending medical information i see
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rotor posted:fax machines are great because you can make a crudely drawn picture of a dong materialize at your friends house the old style fax machines were great because you could run a loop of black paper through them and completely waste someone's paper and toner fax spam was also a very real thing. restaurants in particular would war dial business numbers looking for fax machines to spam menus to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUEmGoBEfr4
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Shaggar posted:thats fine, the problem is people use fax machines for other stuff that they really shouldnt like sending medical information grandfather clauses should always have an expiration date.
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Shaggar posted:thats fine, the problem is people use fax machines for other stuff that they really shouldnt like sending medical information just don’t sent it to the wrong place problem solved
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The_Franz posted:the old style fax machines were great because you could run a loop of black paper through them and completely waste someone's paper and toner lol check out this guy trying to give me a history lesson
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fax is better than any modern messenger because it's still a pretty open standard and anyone could make something that was guaranteed to work with every other one. doesn’t matter if you had a panasonic fax machine and sent a fax to someone with a brother, it would work just fine
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rotor posted:lol check out this guy trying to give me a history lesson haha yeah rotor is old we get it 
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rotor posted:
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I have to send a signed copy of the packing slip for controlled drugs and I used to fax it away and it was dead easy but now I have to scan it and email it and that’s some extra fuckkn bullshit imo
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FMguru posted:
telex was a different but also great thing
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rotor posted:telex was a different but also great thing
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FMguru posted:luv 2 see an old business card or listing with a telex number on it same. i always think maybe one day when I'm retired I'll rig up some telex style thing that just types up my email as it comes in
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realistically probably wont tho but its fun to think about
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echinopsis posted:I have to send a signed copy of the packing slip for controlled drugs and I used to fax it away and it was dead easy but now I have to scan it and email it and that’s some extra fuckkn bullshit imo just set up a fax to email gateway somehow, idiot that will be $70,000 + costs, no i won’t answer your calls, i’m with another client
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i’m being facetious but it’s easy for me coz i understand email but for some it’s a real head scratcher lol
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when i was still doing IT someone came in complaining that a 3rd party fax to email service they were using on site wasn't working for large docs (voip can gently caress fax up and it's a pain in the rear end to get right) they'd printed out a document and they were faxing it to the f2e address i asked them why they didn't email the document directly instead and they left without saying anything else
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The_Franz posted:the old style fax machines were great because you could run a loop of black paper through them and completely waste someone's paper and toner I'm the Restauranger
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I'm the pitched up voices to avoid a copyright strike
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