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Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

jesus WEP posted:

the ubuntu phone

good news, it's back in the form of the pinephone:



they've even managed to get phone calls working in time for the launch!

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Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
In the US it's the opposite. AT&T shut down 2G in 2017, and T-Mobile plans to do so by the end of this year. 3G is being shut down too, AT&T by February 2022 and T-Mobile hasn't announced a date but likely will do so around the same time. The CDMA networks (Verizon and Sprint, the latter of which will just disappear in a few years due to merging with T-Mobile) are on a similar timeline for their 2G/3G shutdowns. LTE is the new baseline for cell service in the US.

EDIT: Also, having 2G enabled on your phone is a bad idea since its crypto is crapto and it has no means to authenticate towers making Stingray-style attacks trivial.

Mr.Radar fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jul 31, 2020

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
Of those 90s skeuomorphic audio players the User Interface Hall of Shame (which itself probably qualifies for this thread, considering it's been frozen in time since 2000) found what is probably the worst of them, IBM's RealCD:



(Sorry for the tiny image, the UIHOS is the only site that has screenshots of it and they're tiny because 56k.)

Because when I think of wanting to play a CD I think of the CD jewel case. Also what I want in a CD player is for half the screen to be taken up with the logo for the application.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

what is yo, because I assume it’s all but ungoogleable

it was a messaging app where you could only send the word "yo" back and forth.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
this talk of hard drives reminded me of "short stroking" HDDs which is where you allocate a partition that only uses the outer tracks of the disk to maximize performance and minimize seek times.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

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Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

mod saas posted:

missed the “rotten” part of this story?

the juice bags were shipped refrigerated but not frozen; part of the juicero guy's thing was that the juice had to be "living" or some such bullshit. that meant that they could only ship the juice packs within a certain distance from the juicero HQ (which was in California) so they couldn't be sold in the eastern US (where more than half the population lives). that was also the justification for the drm qr code which blocked you from using a bag past its expiration (and conveniently also blocked you from using third-party bags, or reusing bags), since it didn't have any kind of preservatives so it would expire in like a week or two even with refrigeration.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
If you want a modern netbook you do have some options that come close. If price is your main concern, there is the Pinebook from PINE64 which is an ARM SBC crammed into a laptop chassis. The base model is only $99 with an 11" screen while the "Pro" model is $199 with a 13" screen and significantly upgraded specs otherwise (you can swap the Pro mainboard into the base model which I would highly suggest if you want to use it more than occasionally/as a toy). If the form factor is your main concern, you can probably find something made by GPD that will suit your needs, though not very cheaply (their stuff usually starts around $500 with Atom or Y-series Core processors and integrated graphics only).

That said, I don't think you can get any computer today that combines the tiny form factor (with a keyboard) and the low price of the original netbooks, though that's probably because those machines turned out to be bad compromises compared to smartphones and tablets which now largely make up the low end of the "(semi-)portable Internet browsing device" market.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
https://twitter.com/gravislizard/status/1143281237814996992

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Silver Alicorn posted:



just remembered this hilarity

reminds me of the original Microsoft Surface:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VfpVYYQzHs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh9cOlVFItQ

"microsoft have not been working on this project anymore, which is a shame because I would really like an updated table in my living room running windows" :psyduck:

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Volmarias posted:

Fileshack, the file hosting site that has a decrepit shack as its logo.

You are number 219 in line to download counterstrike1.0beta4.zip

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
He's currently down to $178. Graphtreon apparently can't handle creators that hide their number of patrons but not their donation total which is why those graphs are always out of date.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
This YouTube channel is doing a comprehensive history of Nickelodeon (with at least one episode for every show they had ever aired), starting with its predecessor in the children's entertainment channel on the experimental interactive Qube cable system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ6Yg9Wvt4s

Honestly, even if you don't care about Nick this first episode is worth watching just to learn about how ambitious cable companies could be in the 70s before they had fully figured out what people wanted from cable and what was and was not profitable.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
HP's The Machine with ~memristors~

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
I watch a lot of antique/vintage electronics channels on Youtube that restore CRT TVs (mostly 50s-70s sets because those tend to use mostly general-purpose components and not the unobtanium proprietary parts that 80s and later sets tend to use) and it's doable, but definitely on the harder side for hobbyist electronics. Part of the difficulty is that you definitely need to have the right tools to do it, and many of those tools (especially a high-voltage probe (which also lets you safely discharge the CRT), a CRT tester so you know if the tube is any good in the first place, and a professional signal generator to generate all the test signals you need to verify and align each portion of the set) haven't been made since the 90s since that's when TVs transitioned from being expensive items that were worth it to fix to being disposable items you just replaced when they broke.

Mr.Radar fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Oct 15, 2021

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

3D Megadoodoo posted:

I once accidentally CRT TV set and all the televisions hissed out the back. I don't know why I tugged at the "plug" but I didn't think it would just come off dead easy and let all the uhh gas out? Air in? IDK.

Also, why the gently caress was it exposed without dismantling anything? And why was the back shell of the TV cardboard? The wonders of European 1970s televisionity.

As in you pulled off the connector on the back of the tube? That by itself shouldn't have broken the vacuum, though the "neck" of the CRT (as that part is called) is usually the most fragile part of it so it's definitely possible if you used more than a gentle amount of force. If the neck was just exposed out of the back of the set then the set was probably missing the part of the back cover that was supposed to cover the neck (which usually was the part of the set that determined how "deep" the cabinet needed to be, so sometimes a bump-out extension on the back cover was used to make the rest of the cabinet thinner).

Mr.Radar fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Oct 15, 2021

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

polyester concept posted:

this guy on youtube does cataract repair on old crts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLKQFTM28lU

and has a cool tube restoration machine that I have no idea how it actually works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=druE54WK4zE

FYI, while Shango knows his stuff wrt CRT TV restoration, he's also prone to occasionally interject random racist and transphobic comments/"jokes" into his videos. He doesn't do it on every video, but if you watch enough of them you'll eventually run into one where he does. He's also against COVID lockdown measures though I don't think he's a full-blown antivaxxer.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

The_Franz posted:

in the bits where actually see him, he's not that old

Yeah, when he's on that poo poo he really comes across more as a burned-out Gen X libertarian griping about how you can't make those kind of jokes anymore despite just having made them.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
CRTs also tend to have multi-kV potentials when they're operating, which could potentially be capacitively stored in the CRT tube itself even when the set is off if the bleed resistor has gone open, which is a bit more dangerous than typical tube equipment.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

fack you posted:

that OpenOffice mouse with all the buttons... was that real or like an April fools day thing or a fever dream

It looks like it was a real mouse, though the final version shipped without the OpenOffice.org branding and was more of a generic gaming mouse. It feels like the OOo connection was just a marketing stunt (though why OpenOffice decided to co-brand a gaming mouse I'm not sure :psyduck:).

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

phantom, the gaming company that promised an amazing console and only ever delivered a keyboard/mouse combo like 5 years later

also, people made counterfeit "prototypes" to rip off console collectors:

https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1448771204068773888
https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1448788896376975368

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

idk if I imagined this or maybe even posted it before, but when the best way of listening to 'high quality' streaming music was youtube.

I actually think though that most modern music videos released via youtube do actually have decent, if not genuinely good, audio quality.

These days YouTube streams 160 kbps Opus which should be transparent to all but the most golden-eared individuals. As long as the original upload had decent bitrate you should get good audio.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
the zalman reserator, a fanless pump/reservoir/radiator for the first wave of "silent" PCs circa 2004:



also, xoxide which is where I stole that image from

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
remember when dyson tried to build an electric car and then gave up when they realized how hard it actually was?

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Sagebrush posted:

the airblade dryers are also noisy as hell and i hate it. almost as bad as the XLR8R or whatever those ones that sound like an F-16 are called. why do public bathrooms have to be so loving loud

a few years ago when my brother was in college and was living in the dorms i visited him. the dorm bathrooms were floor-to-ceiling tile and had xlr8r dryers. it was so loud when they ran that it was physically painful.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Sweevo posted:

any tv made after about 1990 will display both 50hz and 60hz just fine, but PAL vs NTSC isn't just about the refresh rate - it's two completely different ways of encoding the colour info, so even if your TV can handle the different refresh rate you will still get a b&w image.

I'm pretty sure this only applies in PAL regions, at least as far as tube TVs were concerned. Unless you went out of your way to get a multi-region set in the US it was not likely that any given set would be able to sync to a 50 Hz signal, let alone decode the color. I actually just tested this on a circa-2005 CRT TV I have (one that's new enough to have component input and an ATSC tuner, but cheap enough that it only does SD video) and it definitely was not happy when I switched the HDMI to composite converter I have hooked up to it to PAL mode (vertical rolling, off-center horizontal, no color).

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
Cuil, the Google-killing search engine that utterly collapsed on its debut.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
Yes, at least in Windows 10. I imagine they stick around as an accessibility option these days (for people with bad eyesight?) since their original reason for existing (lovely passive matrix LCD displays that had 500ms response time, so the mouse cursor literally wouldn't even appear if it was only shown for a single frame) thankfully isn't relevant any more.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
From the PYF Tweets thread:

zoux posted:

I saw it, it's really good. 90 minutes too.

https://twitter.com/depthsofwiki/status/1557013368724402179

Can I get a sensible chuckle up in here

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

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A wikidive led me to this device: the Ben NanoNote. A "pocket computer" from 2010 based on OpenWrt(!), with a 336 MHz MIPS processor, 32 or 64 megs of RAM, a 320x240 color displays, and IEEE 802.15.4 WPAN (the same layer 2 as Zigbee) as its only wireless connectivity. As Wikipedia puts it "reviewers praised its small size and low cost (US$99), but also criticized the device for its initial lack of any networking capability and for its extremely modest data storage and RAM capabilities in comparison to other contemporary devices."

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
Cathode Ray Dude stumbled on an amazing tech relic of the Y2K era which makes no sense in hindsight but which almost made sense at the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT_-1TOyifc

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0h8wWlBxY0

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Manzoon posted:

Just pointing out that this is marketing information more than practical and there are still lots of small local dead spots that would not show up on such a zoomed out perspective of the theoretical coverage. Also speaking from experience with Verizon and living close to a tower but still not being able to get calls sometimes.

A few years ago the FCC started mandating cellular providers to submit coverage maps to them which they republish. Those maps use far more realistic thresholds for coverage than the maps on the provider's sites. For example, compare the upper peninsula of Michigan to the map in the post you quoted:

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Leperflesh posted:

the thought experiment conveniently ignores the huge amount of time and labor it takes to mount all that storage
lol at the poor fucks pulling CDs out of a 747 and putting them into CD-ROM trays, one at a time

Imagine microSD cards instead of CDs:

What If? FEDEX BANDWIDTH posted:

Cisco estimates that total internet traffic currently averages 167 terabits per second. FedEx has a fleet of 654 aircraft with a lift capacity of 26.5 million pounds daily. A solid-state laptop drive weighs about 78 grams and can hold up to a terabyte.

That means FedEx is capable of transferring 150 exabytes of data per day, or 14 petabits per second—almost a hundred times the current throughput of the internet.


If you don’t care about cost, this ten-kilogram shoebox can hold a lot of internet

We can improve the data density even further by using MicroSD cards:


Those thumbnail-sized flakes have a storage density of up to 160 terabytes per kilogram, which means a FedEx fleet loaded with MicroSD cards could transfer about 177 petabits per second, or two zettabytes per day—a thousand times the internet’s current traffic level. (The infrastructure would be interesting—Google would need to build huge warehouses to hold a massive card-processing operation.)

Cisco estimates internet traffic is growing at about 29% annually. At that rate, we’d hit the FedEx point in 2040. Of course, the amount of data we can fit on a drive will have gone up by then, too. The only way to actually reach the FedEx point is if transfer rates grow much faster than storage rates. In an intuitive sense, this seems unlikely, since storage and transfer are fundamentally linked—all that data is coming from somewhere and going somewhere—but there’s no way to predict usage patterns for sure.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Beeftweeter posted:

oh cool thats a smartmedia card. i had literally one camera that used those (a garbage casio point and shoot) and i think my diamond rio could take them as expansion storage but i never used it

the gimmick with smartmedia was that the card didn't have its own flash controller, it was basically just raw nand exposed on the pins. the advantage was they were slightly cheaper. the downside was that meant the device needed to have a compatible flash controller itself, so devices typically only work with whatever card sizes were available at the time they launched and no smaller/larger sizes. also, they had both 3.3v and 5v cards with readers typically only supporting one or the other. there's a reason nobody else has tried that approach with removable media...

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Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Sweevo posted:

thats so dumb you'd think it was by sony

but sony already had 45 different compatible-but-not-really versions of MemoryStick

this made me look up the wikipedia article on Memory Stick, which taught me about this early variant:

Memory Stick Select

In response to the storage limitations of the original Memory Stick, Sony introduced the Memory Stick Select at CES 2003 on January 9.[25] The Memory Stick Select contained two separate 128 MB partitions which the user could switch between using a physical switch on the card. This solution was fairly unpopular, but it did give users of older Memory Stick devices more capacity. Its physical size remained the same as the original Memory Stick.

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