Convex posted:

Super Mario Bros 3 will always be the best Mario game. There's never been anything that's topped it in terms of sheer replayability imo

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

From all the fandom I would not have guessed Isabelle was such a recent addition to the series

al-azad posted:

With online auto-saves there’s no point in Resetti. Some say this is an example of automation’s job killing death march but really it’s the mole being free of hate and abuse.

MMF Freeway posted:

they already did and no one wanted it

Weedle posted:

apparently this is true but i have literally never heard of "quake champions" before despite releasing a year and a half ago. maybe that's part of the problem

haveblue posted:

Quake Champions may be good at the sick 360 noscope railgun aspect of Quake but they should make a new game for the other aspect which is leaping through a portal from a tech base into a mouldering eldritch castle and blowing up knights in armor with a rocket launcher

haveblue posted:

There was a direct sequel to Quake 2, Quake 4

al-azad posted:

You're bad and your opinions are bad.

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OLmDh6Fyy8

al-azad posted:

All the RPG stuff was scrapped early in its development. The final game is the purest FPS, so pure there isn't even an interact button you just ram your face into everything. It follows Doom 2's progression of design by demanding the player learn the layout of levels and memorize locations of power ups and later levels are all about maintaining a fighting retreat to avoid being overwhelmed.

Like Doom 2016 is far more a reboot of Quake than it is Doom. Quake 2 is like "what if id made a LithTech engine game" which again is fine but not as pure as Quake.

al-azad posted:

Quake 2 doesn't even have pain state, fighting enemies is like shooting a brick wall until HP = 0 and it slumps over. Quake 2's enemies are all the same shade of lumpy humanoid, give me a loving Ogre any day over slow ranged guy 1-5.

And lol I can't believe you're using mastery of an engine's quirks as a negative to the game, what next you're going to say Tribes was bad because the skiing wasn't an intended feature? Get outta here.

al-azad posted:

I read what you said and you're downplaying how much mastery of the system Quake rewards by abusing its physics. Strafe jumping is cool and good and Quake's levels are built vertically around your mastery of moving as fast as possible.

al-azad posted:

And you're saying this is a bad thing but no, it's what makes Quake stand out.

The thing about Quake that Quake 2 completely diverges from is in the design philosophies of its enemies. Doom (and by extension Quake) are all about throwing you into geometrically complex rooms with spongey monsters that control the playing field. The ogre's grenades bounce around corners which eliminates a Doom strategy of strafing around corners. The hitscanners are coupled with a variety of new and faster melee enemies to corner you. The fiend replaces the pinky as a spongey enemy but this one is faster and can leap platforms. The vore is a super revenant and shambler an arch-vile stand-in, both demand you know how to react and move fast as gently caress.

This is where Quake 2 fails. It's the start of shooters as a contemporary single player product and the result is everything is real streamlined. Quake is the last of the old school arcadey level-based design of shooters** where you're plopped down into a weird rear end map with powerups and poo poo.

This is why Doom 2016 is far more Quake than Doom. Because Quake is 3D Doom. Instead of bunny hopping to light speed you just abuse the instant weapon switch and glory kill teleport through platforms. And Doom 2016 understands the importance of area control through its enemies, like the hellknight is basically a fiend.

**Officially I think that reward belongs to Blood but Blood is a game that will instantly punish you for peaking your head around a corner too fast.

al-azad posted:

Quake 2 has the opposite problem of everything being so incredibly weak and samey that nothing poses much of a threat even on nightmare. Quake understands Doom's design of balancing priority spongey enemies like pinkies and hellknights with glass cannons like shotgunners and revenants. Enemies that go down in one hit and all are just cyborg-humanoids, that's boring as poo poo

al-azad posted:

Spongey enemies are fun when they're design to draw your attention or deny your movement for smaller, weaker enemies to plink your health.

For someone who claims to love Kamiya and various character action games I know you're just trolling because Japanese action games love big hit point laden enemies and area control as fundamental parts of the gameplay. The same concepts applied to Doom which carried over to Quake. Every enemy has a specific purpose of hurting you but also denying you space to move.

Cowcaster posted:

did someone say hated game mechanic, how do you all feel about weapon durabil

RBA Starblade posted:

Relax Or DIE posted:

Imo of these only R6 is really any good and it's held back by modern/military design choices that would be better if cut. I still think it's really cool though but I haven't played in a long while

Apex is worse Titanfall and pubg is a loving mess, or at least it was last I played. Tarkov I have not tried, the ideas behind it actually seem pretty neat but milsim stuff just isn't for me.

oddium posted:

hey maybe check out the sequel. "elbow godzilla" hahahaha

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

What is "Loveless" anyway

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

https://twitter.com/BAFTAGames/status/1234746803637116928

4 of these are in the top 6 of these own forums' GOTY list.

Then there's Luigi's Mansion

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

Probably Platinum somehow not being able to handle porting Wonderful 101 to xbox.

oddium posted:

stux made fun of me for listening to mike and jf for months but now he's listening to them backwards