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Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business


Grinspork posted:

finally, i can complete my factory quests without living in complete fear.

this game has changed and it's more gamey now and has a mosin that punches through everyone, it's great.



My go-to in Twitch chat.

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The Clap
Sep 21, 2006



Mesadoram posted:



My go-to in Twitch chat.

Ever since I clapped a three man squad on Interchange with a Mosin Inf. as they were scrambling out of Techlight (with all of the good loot up their buttholes), I've been strictly running Mosin Man. It's just so god drat fun.

Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business


The Clap posted:

Ever since I clapped a three man squad on Interchange with a Mosin Inf. as they were scrambling out of Techlight (with all of the good loot up their buttholes), I've been strictly running Mosin Man. It's just so god drat fun.

I can't put my finger on why using the Mosin is so much fun. It just has this trifecta of being accurate, hitting like a dump truck and sounds like a mean mother fucker

Cage Kicker
Feb 20, 2009

2nd Place at the Waupaca County Cuddle-Fest, again

Lipstick Apathy

I do love the Mosin, but I think I'm going to run mostly the SA-58 from now on. I do super well with it every time and from lvl 1-10 I managed to scav the parts to give it a foregrip, silencer, and drum mag. It's the most ridiculous overkill and I love it

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair


Cage Kicker posted:

I do love the Mosin, but I think I'm going to run mostly the SA-58 from now on. I do super well with it every time and from lvl 1-10 I managed to scav the parts to give it a foregrip, silencer, and drum mag. It's the most ridiculous overkill and I love it

FALs are the handsomest rifles in the history of the world, you are making a good choice.

fennesz
Dec 29, 2008



I don't think I can imagine a situation where I'd ever tell myself "I wish I had something other than this FAL"

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005

Expecto Patronum! Expelliarmus! Abracadabra! Argh, none of these are working.
Oh well, fall back plan.
ROOOAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!


Listening to the podcast from yesterday with Nikita and I get why the THICC case was removed. They were being purchased by RMT players to expand their item selling operations. 92% of players would sell them for the influx of roubles. They basically did it because people want RMT stopped and this was a way to curb their operations. They'll still be removed, just with warning. Expect next patch.

InevitableCheese
Jul 10, 2015

quite a pickle you've got there


Nikita is a whiny little bitch who canít take an ounce of criticism.

Does any actual player give a gently caress about RMT? Does anyone actually give a poo poo that people just sell the case reward? If some guy who is bad at this game wants to buy rubles and die with good gear thatís just free poo poo for me.

Fix the anticheat and stop reactively changing this game on a whim for 1% of players.

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005

Expecto Patronum! Expelliarmus! Abracadabra! Argh, none of these are working.
Oh well, fall back plan.
ROOOAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!


InevitableCheese posted:

Nikita is a whiny little bitch who canít take an ounce of criticism.

Does any actual player give a gently caress about RMT? Does anyone actually give a poo poo that people just sell the case reward? If some guy who is bad at this game wants to buy rubles and die with good gear thatís just free poo poo for me.

Fix the anticheat and stop reactively changing this game on a whim for 1% of players.

You should really listen to the last podcast. I empathize with him a lot more. He directly talks about players like you. He even states that over half of the time he spends on developing this game right now is to correct just what you want, the cheating.

You should care about RMT because it creates hackers who create a negative experience for you. Those roubles you don't care if someone buys? Some hacker got them by killing you and then you come on here and complain about the hacker.

InevitableCheese
Jul 10, 2015

quite a pickle you've got there


I really shouldnít post right when I wake up. Somehow I forgot they use hacks to get the RMT accounts going.

Edit: I also messed up sending emails to the wrong people at work jfc

InevitableCheese fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Jun 25, 2020

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

please trigger warning any insults to billionaires or I swear I will tell you numbnuts about how progress in society REALLY gets done


ShowTime posted:

You should really listen to the last podcast. I empathize with him a lot more. He directly talks about players like you. He even states that over half of the time he spends on developing this game right now is to correct just what you want, the cheating.

You should care about RMT because it creates hackers who create a negative experience for you. Those roubles you don't care if someone buys? Some hacker got them by killing you and then you come on here and complain about the hacker.

I don't sympathize with him at all. If they wanted to fix the cheating, they should fix the cheating. Not change 100 other things that affects the entire player base negatively.

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.

Go write a death threat about it. It's an early access game. They can do whatever the gently caress they want and you can play something else.

Mondian
Apr 24, 2007

Allow me to interject. I have been using electronic cigarettes for a few months now. You see, I am an Expert


ShowTime posted:

You should really listen to the last podcast. I empathize with him a lot more. He directly talks about players like you. He even states that over half of the time he spends on developing this game right now is to correct just what you want, the cheating.

You should care about RMT because it creates hackers who create a negative experience for you. Those roubles you don't care if someone buys? Some hacker got them by killing you and then you come on here and complain about the hacker.

did you mean to post this on reddit and end up here on accident

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.

Mondian posted:

did you mean to post this on reddit and end up here on accident

Did you? You forgot to write 'shill'

Mondian
Apr 24, 2007

Allow me to interject. I have been using electronic cigarettes for a few months now. You see, I am an Expert


No, my bad posting is intended for consumption here, but I'm not trying to justify Nikita's insanely poor decisions

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005

Expecto Patronum! Expelliarmus! Abracadabra! Argh, none of these are working.
Oh well, fall back plan.
ROOOAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!


Mondian posted:

did you mean to post this on reddit and end up here on accident

No. I would have posted something similar to what ChesterJT posted if that was the case.

If they could easily fix hacking and netcode, they would. Why wouldn't they? Are you one of those armchair developers that think they can just press a button and make it all go away? Or a nutjob that thinks BSG thinks the hackers are good for the game? Putting in temporary measures while they actually figure out "the fix" is what they can do right now. They aren't the only company to do it this way. Blizzard, a huge mega gaming company, did something similar recently (limits on number of dungeons you can run in a day). They can't quite fix the problem, so they limit what the RMT people can do and ban the accounts as they can.

For what it's worth, no I don't play the game right now. Hacking is too much of a problem. Yea, BSG already got my money. But if they want to sell me more, they gotta fix the problems. Clearly they want to fix the problem and i'm an example of why.

Oysters Autobio
Mar 13, 2017


Zigmidge posted:

Go write a death threat about it. It's an early access game. They can do whatever the gently caress they want and you can play something else.

lmao, it's been an "early access game" since what? 2016? I love the whiteknighting of buT iTs a bEtA is so hilariously pathetic considering they've been selling this game now for three years as "early access". They also apparently started development of it in loving 2012. There's some real dumb issues that should have been solved from 4 years of closed off development, and then another 4 years of selling the loving game, with a big proportion of that from people paying $150 or whatever for EOD.

If you actually think early access or beta means actually anything these days but an excuse for lovely development I don't know what to tell you.

Let me guess, you also think when this game will be released its going to be open-world because Nikita said so.

Oysters Autobio fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Jun 25, 2020

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009




Fun Shoe

ShowTime posted:

Listening to the podcast from yesterday with Nikita and I get why the THICC case was removed. They were being purchased by RMT players to expand their item selling operations. 92% of players would sell them for the influx of roubles. They basically did it because people want RMT stopped and this was a way to curb their operations. They'll still be removed, just with warning. Expect next patch.

Man, if only there was some way that they could prevent people from flipping these. Unfortunately no such mechanic exists.

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005

Expecto Patronum! Expelliarmus! Abracadabra! Argh, none of these are working.
Oh well, fall back plan.
ROOOAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!


fknlo posted:

Man, if only there was some way that they could prevent people from flipping these. Unfortunately no such mechanic exists.

I know. Pestily even brought it up. I forget what Nikita after Pestily said that, but I do remember the look on Nikita's face and it seemed like it just dawned on him.

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005

Expecto Patronum! Expelliarmus! Abracadabra! Argh, none of these are working.
Oh well, fall back plan.
ROOOAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!


Oysters Autobio posted:

lmao, it's been an "early access game" since what? 2016? I love the whiteknighting of buT iTs a bEtA is so hilariously pathetic considering they've been selling this game now for three years as "early access". They also apparently started development of it in loving 2012. There's some real dumb issues that should have been solved from 4 years of closed off development, and then another 4 years of selling the loving game, with a big proportion of that from people paying $150 or whatever for EOD.

If you actually think early access or beta means actually anything these days but an excuse for lovely development I don't know what to tell you.

Let me guess, you also think when this game will be released its going to be open-world because Nikita said so.

No, it is lovely development. There aren't many shills here. I just recognize they are a small, independent, new studio. I want the game to be better, but I also recognize what they can do because of their limited abilities. I know they are hiring more and more as the game gets bigger and sells more. Maybe they'll hire enough people or the right ones. Until the game gets better, i'm just not gonna play. I'm also not gonna complain and complain.

Mondian
Apr 24, 2007

Allow me to interject. I have been using electronic cigarettes for a few months now. You see, I am an Expert


ShowTime posted:

No, it is lovely development.

Yeah, that's the point. The fact that it didn't even dawn on him to just remove the FIR flag rather than slash the biggest qol rewards from the entire player base instead. This is hardly the first time he's made an asinine blunder like this but oh well I'll just go back to armchair devving lmao

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005

Expecto Patronum! Expelliarmus! Abracadabra! Argh, none of these are working.
Oh well, fall back plan.
ROOOAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!


Mondian posted:

Yeah, that's the point. The fact that it didn't even dawn on him to just remove the FIR flag rather than slash the biggest qol rewards from the entire player base instead. This is hardly the first time he's made an asinine blunder like this but oh well I'll just go back to armchair devving lmao

He is human and isn't the greatest at developing. He's learning. Having an idea like that is different than fixing code to prevent people from hacking. BSG is even willing to implement code that Reddit users find if it benefits the game. No one has found a fix for hacking yet. Find the fix for hacking or stop complaining about them just fixing it. Are BSG or Nikita the best studio for this game? Absolutely not. It's what we got now though. Stop playing if you don't like it. Complaining about it doesn't do poo poo. I realize this is the internet and that's what we get to do, but it makes you look dumb as poo poo just trudging through a game and complaining with every step.

Mondian
Apr 24, 2007

Allow me to interject. I have been using electronic cigarettes for a few months now. You see, I am an Expert


I haven't said a word about hackers? I know, its not an easy fix, but I also know that surprise eliminating the thicc cases from quest rewards is a dumb idea that won't change much of anything except degrade the overall experience of the game. I'm not surprised that you don't understand that though, given you play the game just as much as Nikita does

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005

Expecto Patronum! Expelliarmus! Abracadabra! Argh, none of these are working.
Oh well, fall back plan.
ROOOAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!


That's fair. I'm getting all the users mixed up and thought you were talking about hacking too. I also thought he readded the THICC case for now? I know he said long term he doesn't want it in game, but i'm fine with that. I like having inventory storage, but to me it's not a big deal. I actually found that having 6 THICC cases last wipe to organize everything just meant I spent way too much time keeping it all managed. I don't play the game now, but I still have a poo poo load of hours in the game and get it.

InevitableCheese
Jul 10, 2015

quite a pickle you've got there


Iíll make my own drat game and show all of you

Youíll rue the day I enter early access

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

please trigger warning any insults to billionaires or I swear I will tell you numbnuts about how progress in society REALLY gets done


ShowTime posted:

Why wouldn't they?

Because when they ban accounts for cheating they just use their rmt money to buy more accounts. This isn't difficult.

Zigmidge posted:

Go write a death threat about it.

What?

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005

Expecto Patronum! Expelliarmus! Abracadabra! Argh, none of these are working.
Oh well, fall back plan.
ROOOAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!



Nikita and the dev team have gotten death threats over people complaining about the game and how BSG isn't fixing it.

Gabriel S.
May 20, 2006

I WILL KEEP IMMIGRANT CHILDREN IN A LOCKBOX, AND THAT PAYS DOWN THE NATIONAL DEBT.

Put this Nazi Scientist fuck on ignore immediately!


Have the new nvidia drivers reduced anyone elseís game performance?

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.

Oysters Autobio posted:

lmao, it's been an "early access game" since what? 2016? I love the whiteknighting of buT iTs a bEtA is so hilariously pathetic considering they've been selling this game now for three years as "early access". They also apparently started development of it in loving 2012. There's some real dumb issues that should have been solved from 4 years of closed off development, and then another 4 years of selling the loving game, with a big proportion of that from people paying $150 or whatever for EOD.

If you actually think early access or beta means actually anything these days but an excuse for lovely development I don't know what to tell you.

Let me guess, you also think when this game will be released its going to be open-world because Nikita said so.

Good lord nobody gives a poo poo about any of this. You bought into a beta, gamer.

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.

This is a slap in the face to eod owners!!!!!!!!!!

idiotsavant
Jun 4, 2000


ShowTime posted:

No, it is lovely development. There aren't many shills here. I just recognize they are a small, independent, new studio. I want the game to be better, but I also recognize what they can do because of their limited abilities. I know they are hiring more and more as the game gets bigger and sells more. Maybe they'll hire enough people or the right ones. Until the game gets better, i'm just not gonna play. I'm also not gonna complain and complain.

lmao they have a billion bucks from their game blowing up on twitch and canít find their rear end with both hands

your ďI donít play, I wonít complain, iíll just uncritically repeat whatever devs and Pestily sayĒ is pretty tired. I play the game, I generally enjoy it for what it is, and Iím going to complain about poo poo becUse itís funny as gently caress that the devs continually make pants-on-head stupid decisions

InevitableCheese
Jul 10, 2015

quite a pickle you've got there


They need a biiiiiit more funds, just have to ride out the RMT profits

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005

Expecto Patronum! Expelliarmus! Abracadabra! Argh, none of these are working.
Oh well, fall back plan.
ROOOAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!


idiotsavant posted:

lmao they have a billion bucks from their game blowing up on twitch and canít find their rear end with both hands

your ďI donít play, I wonít complain, iíll just uncritically repeat whatever devs and Pestily sayĒ is pretty tired. I play the game, I generally enjoy it for what it is, and Iím going to complain about poo poo becUse itís funny as gently caress that the devs continually make pants-on-head stupid decisions

You are so off base here, it's hilarious. I hate Pestily and have said so in this thread. I only watch the podcast with Nikita on because it gives game information. I'm a huge fan of the game and have hundreds of hours in it. Before the wipe my playtime was something like 1043hrs. I don't play the game now because of the problems with it. I'm also a human being and understand what I signed up for and what people are capable of.

Whoops.

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005

Expecto Patronum! Expelliarmus! Abracadabra! Argh, none of these are working.
Oh well, fall back plan.
ROOOAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!


Gabriel S. posted:

Have the new nvidia drivers reduced anyone elseís game performance?

For what it's worth, while I don't really play, I have loaded up the game a few times in the past couple days to play a few raids and noticed a severe downgrade in performance. I updated my drivers to the most recent AMD ones after some recommendations earlier in the thread. So it could be you or it could just be the game.

In the podcast they also talked about 12.7 updating to Unity 2019 as well as seeing some performance upgrades.

idiotsavant
Jun 4, 2000


Zigmidge posted:

Good lord nobody gives a poo poo about any of this. You bought into a beta, gamer.

Given the state of gaming and the ways games are released, falling back on ďitís just a beta though!!Ē Is hopelessly naive at best

idiotsavant
Jun 4, 2000


Also someone explain to me how THICC cases significantly impact RMT cause I donít get it. I rush the therapist quest, sell my thicc case on the market, and rake in a big scoop of 7-8m rubles net? And make well over uhhh, 10ís?? of dollars selling 8m rubles rmt? I have no idea how much 8m rubles is actually worth but I canít see the effort actually paying off

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002

"Success consists of going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm."

John Stamos

Upset Trowel

Zigmidge posted:

Go write a death threat about it. It's an early access game. They can do whatever the gently caress they want and you can play something else.

You shame all 2002s with this meltdown

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

please trigger warning any insults to billionaires or I swear I will tell you numbnuts about how progress in society REALLY gets done


Zigmidge posted:

Good lord nobody gives a poo poo about any of this. You bought into a beta, gamer.

Zigmidge posted:

This is a slap in the face to eod owners!!!!!!!!!!

Nikita account spotted

ShowTime
Mar 28, 2005

Expecto Patronum! Expelliarmus! Abracadabra! Argh, none of these are working.
Oh well, fall back plan.
ROOOAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!


idiotsavant posted:

Also someone explain to me how THICC cases significantly impact RMT cause I donít get it. I rush the therapist quest, sell my thicc case on the market, and rake in a big scoop of 7-8m rubles net? And make well over uhhh, 10ís?? of dollars selling 8m rubles rmt? I have no idea how much 8m rubles is actually worth but I canít see the effort actually paying off

Apparently just to horde all their items. They buy tons of them to expand their inventory so they have more items to sell. Nikita mentioned them being sold off to new sellers to start their market activities. It seemed like just a inventory and organization thing. He wants them gone long-term, because he thinks they are overpowered. That change was definitely a knee jerk reaction to something he learned about coupled with him just wanting them out of the game. I'd expect them to be removed from that quest next wipe.

Edit: As was mentioned, he could have just made them not flagged as found in raid to get rid of that happening. I guess someone could trade them in a raid, but that adds to the risk. Saying that, a couple hackers trading off their THICC cases isn't that risky.

ShowTime fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jun 25, 2020

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SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012





ShowTime posted:

Apparently just to horde all their items. They buy tons of them to expand their inventory so they have more items to sell. Nikita mentioned them being sold off to new sellers to start their market activities. It seemed like just a inventory and organization thing. He wants them gone long-term, because he thinks they are overpowered. That change was definitely a knee jerk reaction to something he learned about coupled with him just wanting them out of the game. I'd expect them to be removed from that quest next wipe.

Edit: As was mentioned, he could have just made them not flagged as found in raid to get rid of that happening. I guess someone could trade them in a raid, but that adds to the risk. Saying that, a couple hackers trading off their THICC cases isn't that risky.

Pretty sure you can't even carry icases or thicc cases into a raid anymore friendo

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