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Sgt. Cosgrove: Mar 16, 2007; How about I bend your body into funny balloon animal shapes?

I mean like playing on two different sets of hardware, which would def trip red-flags for account sharing.

# ? Jul 8, 2020 16:27

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 07:11

matryx: Jul 22, 2005; I think I just had an evilgasm...

I even play from three different computers, each of which is sometimes VPN'd. Never had any issues.

# ? Jul 8, 2020 18:20

1001 Arabian dicks: Sep 16, 2013; EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

Umbreon posted:

BSG capped the number of certain items you can hold in a raid specifically for that reason. Did you not know about that?

Yes, there is tons of stuff you can buy and sell on the flea market, but trying to give them away won't work right, the taxes work inversely too so if you try to set the price of something too low then the fees will get jacked up anyway.

And my dude, if you legitimately believe that people are somehow hacking but not also using hacks to to get things to RMT with, I don't think there's any amount of logic or reason that will get through to you. Put yourself in the shoes of somebody who wanted to make money off of playing tarkov, why wouldn't you hack? It makes getting everything you want to make money with so much easier and faster, and you don't give a poo poo if you get banned since you can just buy another account anyway with all the money you make from doing it.

none of this contradicts the fact that there are items that can be put on the market to transfer roubles en masse, and items worth high values that can be traded in raid to others. your FiR item idea was stupid, you literally have no idea how the game works or how tarkov rmt works.

# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:52

hello internet: Sep 13, 2004

BSG should just cancel the game tbh

# ? Jul 8, 2020 21:14

Umbreon: May 21, 2011

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

none of this contradicts the fact that there are items that can be put on the market to transfer roubles en masse, and items worth high values that can be traded in raid to others. your FiR item idea was stupid, you literally have no idea how the game works or how tarkov rmt works.

You've been demonstrating all thread that you have no idea how RMT works in addition to apparently thinking I made up an FIR idea now. Do yourself a huge favor and relax and breathe before you post again.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 02:09

Dr. Clockwork: Sep 9, 2011; I'LL PUT MY SCIENCE IN ALL OF YOU!

Just picked up this game and after about 8 games of offline raid with pve enabled on Customs, I managed to get one raid where I didn't get my legs blacked out in the first scav fight.

Is this every fight? You just blow out your legs and pimp walk around the map until someone kills you? What am I missing?

# ? Jul 9, 2020 17:50

Slumpy: Jun 10, 2008

Dr. Clockwork posted:

Just picked up this game and after about 8 games of offline raid with pve enabled on Customs, I managed to get one raid where I didn't get my legs blacked out in the first scav fight.

Is this every fight? You just blow out your legs and pimp walk around the map until someone kills you? What am I missing?

Don't get into situations where you're getting shot so much. Be the one shooting first and dont miss.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 17:52

Pornographic Memory: Dec 17, 2008

Dr. Clockwork posted:

Just picked up this game and after about 8 games of offline raid with pve enabled on Customs, I managed to get one raid where I didn't get my legs blacked out in the first scav fight.

Is this every fight? You just blow out your legs and pimp walk around the map until someone kills you? What am I missing?

Carry meds, splints, bandages, and painkillers.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 17:59

InevitableCheese: Jul 10, 2015; quite a pickle you've got there

Dr. Clockwork posted:

Just picked up this game and after about 8 games of offline raid with pve enabled on Customs, I managed to get one raid where I didn't get my legs blacked out in the first scav fight.

Is this every fight? You just blow out your legs and pimp walk around the map until someone kills you? What am I missing?

There are also kits that heal blacked out limbs, and painkillers remove a lot of the movement penalty from injuries.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:00

LGD: Sep 25, 2004

also you can use painkillers to manage blacked out limbs (i.e. you'll be able to walk more or less normally on a blacked out leg, even if fast movement is painful) and eventually medical supplies (CMS/Surv 12 kits) to sew them back on that you can keep in your secured container

but yes, the general idea is to avoid getting shot in the first place as much as possible (you will also get dramatically better where killing scavs is concerned over time)

use sound to locate scavs (and know when they locate you), use cover (and don't be afraid to back off/rotate), aim for heads/thorax as appropriate to quickly drop them

e: also, the game is heavily knowledge based and the learning curve has been likened more to a cliff - Tarkov is a game where you die a lot even if you're skilled, knowledgeable and have excellent gear, as a new player you're going to get dunked on a lot when you're starting out (otoh it will make looting the first hefty boy you dome in the face with an ADAR all the sweeter)

LGD fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jul 9, 2020

# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:04

Dr. Clockwork: Sep 9, 2011; I'LL PUT MY SCIENCE IN ALL OF YOU!

Thanks, was just rolling in with the free starter gear and only doing offline to get used to the controls and mechanics. Coming off of Hunt Showdown as my primary FPS, the controls are taking some getting used to and the sheer amount of "advanced controls" keybinds in this game is staggering.

# ? Jul 9, 2020 18:10

idiotsavant: Jun 4, 2000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH7ua6wMJkw re: fighting scavs. Be careful about getting used to fighting scavs tho cause it will mess you up when you come up against PMCs,

There are a couple controls videos by various streamers that might be worth watching, but generally when you're starting I'd try to run through a map a few times in offline mode with scavs turned off to get used to the physical locations, and then just use every scav run you can as soon as they come up. It's really helpful to have a second screen/laptop up during all this with a decent map to familiarize yourself.

streamers are poo poo disclaimer, but Veritas has some very good gameplay mechanics videos, and I really enjoy Krashed's videos both for entertainment value and for his very decent tactical breakdown videos.

Other than that honestly just play the full game and you'll get better over time

# ? Jul 9, 2020 19:59

TheTofuShop: Aug 28, 2009

Bind Throw Grenade to double tap G.

It will save you or your friends lives countless times

# ? Jul 9, 2020 20:03

idiotsavant: Jun 4, 2000

Oh yeah, the double tap registering right is kind of a pain but it�s better than constantly accidentally �nading all over when you meant to mash f to loot some file cabinets

Another useful one for me was swapping my melee weapon hotkey to M or N or something else across the keyboard because i died too many times from accidentally mashing V in the middle of a firefight

# ? Jul 10, 2020 02:45

twig1919: Nov 1, 2011; I am an inconsiderate moron whose only method of discourse is idiotic personal attacks.

Dr. Clockwork posted:

Just picked up this game and after about 8 games of offline raid with pve enabled on Customs, I managed to get one raid where I didn't get my legs blacked out in the first scav fight.

Is this every fight? You just blow out your legs and pimp walk around the map until someone kills you? What am I missing?

Keep painkillers active for every second of every raid and never suffer any blacked limb penalties again.

You take some damage running on blacked legs but the only real downside is that it makes noise.

# ? Jul 10, 2020 03:07

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

TheTofuShop posted:

Bind Throw Grenade to double tap G.

It will save you or your friends lives countless times

Related, unbind combat reload and it will make your regular reloads half a second to a second faster because it doesn't have to figure out if you're double tapping. Yay tarkov lol

# ? Jul 10, 2020 04:51

Cage Kicker: Feb 20, 2009; End of the fiscal year, bitch.
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twig1919 posted:

Keep painkillers active for every second of every raid and never suffer any blacked limb penalties again.

You take some damage running on blacked legs but the only real downside is that it makes noise.

Ahhh so this is what makes gold star and vaseline so good yeah?

# ? Jul 10, 2020 06:20

LGD: Sep 25, 2004

Cage Kicker posted:

Ahhh so this is what makes gold star and vaseline so good yeah?

exactly - having a painkiller already going potentially makes a huge difference in firefights, especially in terms of not dying if you get legged in the open

(golden star also has some minor additional utility via the tiny amount of energy/hydration it grants, which can occasionally be useful if you forget to top up before a long raid you're trying to haul a massive pile of loot out of)

# ? Jul 10, 2020 06:31

idiotsavant: Jun 4, 2000

Keep in mind that there's a later quest that requires 6 stress resistance and you dont gain stress resistance while using painkillers. So after the skill wipe you might want to hold off the pre-popped painkillers until you actually need them

# ? Jul 10, 2020 07:39

animist: Aug 28, 2018

just bring propital

# ? Jul 10, 2020 07:40

Stux: Nov 17, 2006

Idiot Doom Spiral posted:

Something isn't "difficult" because it eats a lot of time. It's not difficult to come up with 1800 baby names starting with J, but it sure as hell takes time.

The problem with passive playstyles in the current Tarkov is it's effectively an arena with some demo-economy features tacked on. People spawn in, maps are static and the only real goal is to hog some loot and get it to the exit. That is it - the tension that people find in it is largely the power of their imagination, because going broke doesn't have real penalties, nor does finding good stuff have some greater, game-changing impact. You can't really use it to cooperate with each other, change the map, change the game or what not. You can't even take anything from anyone that they don't basically consent to you taking.

So when that trends towards camping, you get a very silly experience, where the only limit is people's willingness to poopsock. Memorize spawns, flow and know your run times - reach a spot, hold out, sound whore and pop anybody silly enough to not have memorized enough. Lay low again, and head towards the exit. Ironically this was also a fairly large problem with more aggro playstyles that used parts of this approach to mitigate risk. Calling this kind of thing 'asymmetrical information' is very kind when that information is only gained in an out-of-game, meta way (namely by playing over and over and having a second screen up) - it's not that you gained information and took risks that led to your future advantage. You simply repeated a task until you were guaranteed to have an advantage.

The key problem with Tarkov is that it was made sort of under the influence of early 2k-MMOs, and the idea of building an 'immersive simulator' - it brings all the worst dregs of that era with it: Heavy instancing, item spawning, loot tables, doing runs and endless grinding and loot inflation. Even the dread skill system would feel at home in one of those games (repeat action to gain skill at action? Huh, sounds kinda familiar). And every part of the game that comes from this line of thinking is 100% dysfunctional, a turnoff and useless. The two good things it has going for it are the gunsmith (...until the stat-balancing again is very MMO-ish) and the audio-visuals of gunfights - unaided by huds, in helmets that smear, ringing and smoke and blasts left and right. No markers to aid you, just your memory of where your pals are to know where to run, how to flank and who to shoot. This is great, because it puts a lot of immediate challenge on the player, in ways that are fair, dynamic (they can't be learned by rote) and allow for tons of possible solutions.

To fix Tarkov would be quite a task and require tearing large parts of it down. Which is largely why I quit. It was only fun when we were pretending it was some kind of squad shooter and got ourselves in trouble for no good reason. Playing to win at Tarkov seemed like the silliest waste of time.

mad cos bad

# ? Jul 10, 2020 20:29

Stux: Nov 17, 2006

im doing well this wipe and the fir changes are still dumb and also get rid of the quest item inventory and make them normal items thats how you fix it thanks

# ? Jul 10, 2020 20:36

Dr. Clockwork: Sep 9, 2011; I'LL PUT MY SCIENCE IN ALL OF YOU!

Trying to dig up information on this game is really difficult sometimes. Is it correct that the only way to get a Gamma case is to drop $140 on your "pre-order"?

# ? Jul 11, 2020 17:56

Orv: May 4, 2011

Correct.

# ? Jul 11, 2020 18:13

Dr. Clockwork: Sep 9, 2011; I'LL PUT MY SCIENCE IN ALL OF YOU!

Well I guess I'll just roll with my 2x2 prison wallet then. I'm not willing to pay to win that much.

# ? Jul 11, 2020 18:25

Mega Comrade: Apr 22, 2004; Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Dr. Clockwork posted:

Trying to dig up information on this game is really difficult sometimes. Is it correct that the only way to get a Gamma case is to drop $140 on your "pre-order"?

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Secure_containers

Not sure how difficult it is to get those other containers in game. I imagine difficult, to encourage people to spend more real money.

# ? Jul 11, 2020 18:25

idiotsavant: Jun 4, 2000

Dr. Clockwork posted:

Well I guess I'll just roll with my 2x2 prison wallet then. I'm not willing to pay to win that much.

honestly it's not even an issue, same thing with trader rep. The only thing that EOD might be good for is the "includes all dlc forever" potential, but who knows what the gently caress this game will turn into so eh

getting an epsilon isn't very hard, it just takes some know-how and time. and even if you were stuck running an alpha forever it's plenty workable, you just get used to risking more loot and bringing less stuff

# ? Jul 11, 2020 18:27

causticBeet: Mar 2, 2010; BIG VINCE COMIN FOR YOU

this dude must be some kind of autistic savant because coming up with 1800 baby names starting with J sounds hard as gently caress

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# ? Jul 11, 2020 18:59

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

causticBeet posted:

this dude must be some kind of autistic savant because coming up with 1800 baby names starting with J sounds hard as gently caress

Haha gamers are autistic jokes. Ftw!

# ? Jul 11, 2020 19:14

Stux: Nov 17, 2006

Dr. Clockwork posted:

Trying to dig up information on this game is really difficult sometimes. Is it correct that the only way to get a Gamma case is to drop $140 on your "pre-order"?

beta is 2x3, unlocks with peacekeeper level 2 as a barter trade for 1 ledx, 3 aesas and 5 mcbs. also comes with the prepare for escape edition
epsilon is 4x2, you get it as a reward from the punisher quest line which unlocks relatively early and isnt too hard to complete.
gamma is 3x3 and is eod edition only currently
kappa is 4x3, you get it from an end game quest from fence that unlocks after you have finished the major tasks from everyone else, the task itself involves handing in one of every streamer item FIR

its really not worth the rl money, maybe it will be once theyve talked more about dlc and we know what the pricing for that will look like, but right now youre paying way more just to skip the first few stash upgrades and get a secure container that only has 1 more slot than one youll unlock early into the wipe.

# ? Jul 11, 2020 20:07

ChesterJT: Dec 28, 2003; Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

The containers aren't as important with the found in raid changes. It's mostly a place to hold your med kits and such, or maybe valuables found in a safe.

The stash size is the biggest benefit. With flea market locked until 10 i had a ton of poo poo i was holding on to and very little room left. I couldn't imagine starting a wipe now with a smaller stash.

# ? Jul 11, 2020 21:07

LGD: Sep 25, 2004

you also have freedom to ignore a lot of Jaeger�s bullshit

# ? Jul 11, 2020 21:44

idiotsavant: Jun 4, 2000

Now that you can make defibrillators in hideout you can also ignore a lot of Jaeger's bullshit. And as far as stash size goes, yeah it gets crowded but you can sell so much stuff that just doesn't matter. sell your poo poo and quit hoarding

# ? Jul 12, 2020 01:23

Stux: Nov 17, 2006

it can get a bit tight before you hit 10 if youve got stuff you know will fetch more on the market and before you can get a junkbox but its really not so bad i would ever care to spend the extra real cash. the dlc part is the only bit that tempts me bcos ill prob want to play them

# ? Jul 12, 2020 01:32

Lemon: May 22, 2003

My plan this wipe is to get to the Bitcoin Farm, increase my Stash size to the 2nd level in the Hideout and get the Epsilon case from Prapor's quests.

I've managed the first two so far and am just two quests away from the case, I figure once I've got all those then I'll have money coming in, ample storage space and a decent enough container to bring a proper med supply to each raid. After that, I'll probably forget about the quests and other upgrades entirely and just play.

I left the stash upgrade until quite late, I think next wipe if I'm still playing I will beeline for that because it makes such a difference.

# ? Jul 12, 2020 14:07

Mega Comrade: Apr 22, 2004; Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Do we know when the next wipe is?

# ? Jul 12, 2020 14:12

ChesterJT: Dec 28, 2003; Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

Mega Comrade posted:

Do we know when the next wipe is?

Early speculation is october-ish

# ? Jul 12, 2020 16:23

Dr. Clockwork: Sep 9, 2011; I'LL PUT MY SCIENCE IN ALL OF YOU!

Think I got killed by my first hacker. First online raid on Reserve, had to crouch in a bathroom stall to deal with some text messages and after sitting dead still for about five minutes I hear footsteps and a guy tears rear end into the building and beelines for my stall and mag dumps me.

It was a Scav too so it�s not like I can even report the guy. Player Scav assumed since he didn�t jabber in Russian at any point in his mad dash to kill me.

# ? Jul 12, 2020 23:01

TheTofuShop: Aug 28, 2009

Dr. Clockwork posted:

Think I got killed by my first hacker. First online raid on Reserve, had to crouch in a bathroom stall to deal with some text messages and after sitting dead still for about five minutes I hear footsteps and a guy tears rear end into the building and beelines for my stall and mag dumps me.

It was a Scav too so it’s not like I can even report the guy. Player Scav assumed since he didn’t jabber in Russian at any point in his mad dash to kill me.

What was this scav's name? Because that sounds like Raider behavior to me. Single word scav names are Raiders, on Customs Reshalas guards all have the last name Zavodschky or something like that too.

It could also be a hacker if they had a normal scav name, but if its a Raider, id just assume you made a bit of noise and they found you. The bathrooms with the broken tiles are so loud with any kind of movement.

# ? Jul 13, 2020 17:56

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 07:11

Lemon: May 22, 2003

Dr. Clockwork posted:

Think I got killed by my first hacker. First online raid on Reserve, had to crouch in a bathroom stall to deal with some text messages and after sitting dead still for about five minutes I hear footsteps and a guy tears rear end into the building and beelines for my stall and mag dumps me.

It was a Scav too so it�s not like I can even report the guy. Player Scav assumed since he didn�t jabber in Russian at any point in his mad dash to kill me.

Were you possibly tagged and cursed?

# ? Jul 13, 2020 18:05

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