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TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

New players who are just starting: join the discord. Goons are happy to sherpa you around and show you key loot spots, dangerous areas of the map, etc. Last week we brought in a full kit for someone who was new for a run, we had all 5 of us wearing matching gear. Last night Ix and I guided two new goons through a handful of early quests, and we even had a nice clean interchange run where everyone got some real good loot.

You will learn a lot quicker playing with others, and the game is a lot less terrifying this way. Hell, when you get your leg blacked out, usually at least one of the goons with you has a surgical kit and can drop it for you to patch up before you give it back (or they let you keep it). Also when playing with buddies, they can sometimes kill the dude who killed you, and hide your gear in a bush so you get it back in insurance, or bring it out of raid for your next run.

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TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Pikey posted:

What’s the info for the discord btw?

Oh yeah, the OP doesnt have it anymore.

hakimashou posted:

If you want to play tarkov with goons there's a big discord full of those people at:

https://discord.gg/fxvqwE6

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Forget face tapping, hit them in the chest with an ap20 slug. :getin:

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

DrPop posted:

drat so not everyone screams when the "CONSTRUCTION COMPLETE" alert goes off? Weird

I nearly lost it creeping up in interchange when the scav case notification went off in raid :ohdear:

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Maybe they'll meet us in the middle at 10... That wouldnt be so terrible. I feel like combating the bots is a losing fight though. The economy part of this game is just begging to be manipulated

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

ShowTime posted:

I forgot about this. Can't you also do something with your secure container? Either way, thank you. This will be way quicker.

I think theres some item that fits in a docs case, technical manual or something, that weighs quite a bit? But honestly you're better off spending the roubles for the empty fuel cans and just dropping them once you find good stuff for your bag. Or you can wander the shoreline outskirts for a whole raid.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

I guess you could always go in hurt and heal in raid, if you really wanted the skill xp

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Both of you, come play with goons in the discord. Running the second half of Delivery from the Past is a real common quest to do in a group.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

ShowTime posted:

Probably just the advantage gained. If you have max stats you are innately better at certain things. I think in this last patch they even added an elite status that makes your backpack not count towards your weight or something. I think that's what they mean. I don't really give that much of a gently caress I just get kind of irked about the bragging about it.

The elite strength bonus has been in at least from 3 patches ago when I started.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Frog Act posted:

My friend bought this and convinced me to pick it up to play together. Match 1: I have an AK. We run across the map "customs" for twenty minutes. I don't know where I am but he says he looked up a map to our exit. We creep past a gas station, and someone comes around a corner and kills us both.

Match 2: We try scavs. We wander around a bit and I get to loot some stuff, find a sniper rifle. I snipe an NPC, or think I do. We get killed by other scav NPCs trying to sneak past the one I killed, lol

Match 3: We try scavs again. I actually manage to loot a corpse and a couple boxes with random nonsense in them. We escape with my friend's outside map using skills even though we had separate EPs.

I now have an SKS, a shotgun, and 5/6 starter pistols. It's funny to me that this game has no mechanisms for advancement, really, if you just thoroughly suck rear end - you'll get a little exp but ultimately you'll run out of equipment and rubles unless you're killing/looting. On the other hand, it runs well, I like that you have to actually accomplish something to advance, and it reminds me of DayZ if DayZ wasn't a complete pile of poo poo. The level of tacticool milsim nerd is off the charts but I'm into that. The lore is nonsense but in a charming Russian way.

I'm looking forward to playing more, but I really wish it had at least a compass with bearings as a default HUD or usable item or something.

Frog bro, dont engage the stats discussion in the thread, be a chill dude and :getin: the discord. Goons will help and often shower you with loot and guns.

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vandalism posted:

I don't know anything about this game at all. I decided to watch some guy streaming at like 4:00 AM and before he rushed in he applied lip balm. Wtf. So is this game pvp only or is there like co-op against bots or whatever?

You too dude, come be chill in the discord and goons can help you out. If you want to do a low stress run with zero risk, run a raid in offline mode, you can even turn scavs off to just wander the map and get a feel for it. In offline you dont lose or gain anything.

TheTofuShop fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Mar 25, 2020

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

RattiRatto posted:

Just got the game as a way of passing this along stuck at home time. A few questions:
I keep dying to scavs (I believe - I am not even sure to tell since I get basically head shorted all the time) in customs starting area. Like I am having real hard trouble getting out as the pmc, while it's a hassle free situation whenever I spawn there as a player scav. Am I missing something? (Like you always need this kind of armor - as the only one I can get from one of the dealer is lvl2).
I think I have played around 20 raids and I still haven't managed to get any closer to completing the quests.

Please tell me I am not the only one having real hard time with what is supposed to be the "easy" stuff - ai scavs

Join the discord linked in the OP, goons are very helpful and you'll only get accidentally TK'd (or accidentally kill a team mate) a few times.

Just hop in a voice channel with goons and let them know you are new - theres surely a goon or two who will be happy to sherpa you around and show you the ropes. This late in the wipe, a lot of people are also super flush with cash and can bring you in a gun or a logout.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

ShowTime posted:

gently caress is it frustrating to die when you have the advantage in surprise and knowing their location. I'll see them first, know exactly where they are gonna appear if they do and yet, still die to someone that doesn't know where I am (but can hear me) and doesn't know where to aim , whereas I do. They have an entire room to find me, where I have 1 spot I need to aim, yet they can fire their first shot before I can.

If someone is good at this game and can hear you, they know where you are.

A lot of people hold the exact same spots in chokes and rooms, youd be surprised. And higher ergo means quicker ADS, especially with a canted sight.

You seem to have just gotten outplayed, tbh.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

ShowTime posted:

My go to newbie loadout was just an M9A3. Kill scavs, put as much in your secure container as you can and then start trying to surprise some players or loot dead bodies. Then I had enough to run slightly better loadouts and not sweat it. Running with just a pistol is the best way to start until you really get the game and the map layouts.

Especially this late in the wipe, this is horrible loving advice.

You'll be so outgunned that unless youre clicking heads youre just gonna lose your poo poo every time.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Stux posted:

doing a pistol run and seeing what you can kill and gear up with is fun times

of course, and yes, playing sneaky with a pistol is something you can certainly do when starting. but I just dont think its the first thing you should be doing. Maybe I took his advice as more literal than intended. I think the pistol only thing is more appropriate in the middle of starting out - you kinda know a couple maps (shoreline caches, customs) and you know to stay out of the way of trouble, and can orient yourself easily. Ideally this stage happens sooner rather than later but drat I've seen so many people bounce off the first 5 levels of the game.

The real advice is. join the discord. ask for help. dont be a dick.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

It would bring me great joy to see I took someones meta 416 and kit that they paid real money for because I got a good shot with a mosin on a scav :getin:

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

ChesterJT posted:

That god damned "scavs have arrived with your loot" noise scares the poo poo out of me every time.

You can turn that off by disabling hideout and interface sounds

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Rebind Throw Grenade to double tap G. It will save your and your friends lives a ton.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

ShowTime posted:

Anyone running all raids with like, infinite drugs in their body now? At least the good ones. I bought up Goldenstar when the wipe was announced and have been using them since. Taught me the value of prepopping pain meds and now I basically only run with pain meds in my body. I haven't found any other drugs without adverse effects, but if they exist, I wanna take them. I've tried a few runs with SJ6 to start and run to a spot (like Resort) and just didn't like the tunnel vision that came after. Goldenstar is amazing and i'll never go back. I don't care if I go broke after the wipe on just buying Goldenstar.

In case you didn't know what Goldenstar does, here is all it does:

10 minutes of pain relief. That's 7 minutes longer than just normal pain killers.
Slight energy gain. Slight hydration gain. Other pain meds reduce your hydration.
Slight amount of hp gain (only a few points).
Removes contusion, toxicity and radiation (whenever those are implemented).

Yea, Goldenstar takes a few extra seconds to use, but it's so worth it. Pop it at the start of your raid and every 10 minutes after.

Imo the SJ6 is better used at the end of a successful raid, to help with overencumberance and stamina regen while running to extract. Propitol and the Green stim are both great as well the regen they provide isnt insane, but its enough to help heal your limbs as you run for cover after being lit up. The short use time is the biggest upside for all the injectors.

Also I think you can counteract the tunnel vision by popping a goldenstar.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Romes128 posted:

drat I fuckin suck at this game. I just started and my first 3 raids were over in a couple minutes cause I have no map knowledge and have no idea where to go. Any tips for a noob?

hakimashou posted:

If you want to play tarkov with goons there's a big discord full of those people at:

https://discord.gg/fxvqwE6

Join the discord. hop in a voice channel, wait for a minute to make sure people arent in a tense firefight, then say hi and let people know youre new. Be chill, Try to communicate where you are in a group and try not to TK other goons. You'll be fine.

At this point in the wipe no one is dummy rich yet where we can shower you with full free fancy kits, but a lot of goons have quest keys and such to help you along the way.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Instead of worrying about the gun, buy a stock gun and shoot good ammo; a stock AKM from prapor running BP, a ak-74 running BT, a Vepr Hunter running M80, etc. Spend your money on good ammo and invest it in your enemies' bodies.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Bucnasti posted:

You can't sell drops on the Flea because they're not FIR, so you're only going to get the Therapist price for it, and unless you get really lucky the flea price will never really go below that.

As mentioned by Haki earlier, if you right click > required search, you can find barters people are looking to be fulfilled by keytools, which can be paid with non fir items and can get you more value than vendor price usually.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Lucca Blight posted:

What is the etiquette for the discord?
Do I throw myself in the stage appropriate voice chat and wait? Ask in general first? DM people that are already in a voice chat?
I don't want to be rude.

Pornographic Memory posted:

same but more importantly is it ok if I suck rear end at this game

Just join a channel for the map you wanna play if no one is playing. If you see people in a voice chat, hop in. Wait a moment of two and listen to make sure they arent in the middle of a tense firefight, then say hi and let them know you're new. Most goons are pretty friendly and chill, the wipe has a whole bunch of people returning as well.

Its fine to be bad, we all are, just dont be an rear end in a top hat.

If you have specific questions, you can ask in general or ping a sherpa (roles are listed in discord)

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Gabriel S. posted:

Is it possible if we could somehow create a "goon" uniform?

We keep shooting each other :smith:

Last wipe we did a Bunch of raids with a "uniform", 6B3TM, Ratnik, Berkut, Vepr Hunter.

The most fun though was going in as a 5 stack to interchange all wearing Killa Armor, Triton, Killa Helm and his gun(s) 4 with RPKs and I brought the PP-19 Zenit. We all filled our pockets with grenades and a Labs Keycard. Sprinted to mid mall and immediately wiped by some guy who was sherpaing his friends. It was good fun.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Gabriel S. posted:

How come I am completely unable to get the "switch scopes" function to work with the HAMR Scope?

Did you buy a delta point and put it in the slot on top?

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

twig1919 posted:


They could do some really simple/easy poo poo like make loot spawn in progressively on the map instead of at the beginning,

This would be really cool, like when the second wave of scavs spawn in, theres a fresh bunch of loot that spawns in locations as well.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Bind Throw Grenade to double tap G.

It will save you or your friends lives countless times

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Dr. Clockwork posted:

Think I got killed by my first hacker. First online raid on Reserve, had to crouch in a bathroom stall to deal with some text messages and after sitting dead still for about five minutes I hear footsteps and a guy tears rear end into the building and beelines for my stall and mag dumps me.

It was a Scav too so it’s not like I can even report the guy. Player Scav assumed since he didn’t jabber in Russian at any point in his mad dash to kill me.

What was this scav's name? Because that sounds like Raider behavior to me. Single word scav names are Raiders, on Customs Reshalas guards all have the last name Zavodschky or something like that too.

It could also be a hacker if they had a normal scav name, but if its a Raider, id just assume you made a bit of noise and they found you. The bathrooms with the broken tiles are so loud with any kind of movement.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

causticBeet posted:

gimme your tarkov map tier lists

S-Tier:
Shoreline - No other map allows for more flexibility in terms of choosing your route across and engagement options when you encounter enemies. Shoreline rewards map knowledge better than any other map in the game; countless stashes, a good mix of vertical diversity on the terrain, and a solid amount of cover to handle disengaging and repositioning when stuck in a bad spot. Resort has its own set of issues, mostly in terms of vertical reading of audio inside, but it also contains some of the most loot rich rooms in the game. Often unhit, the HEPS key for the upper room at Power is a literal treasure trove of weapons and parts, with three weapon boxes and the table which can spawn 4+ items on top, including thermals and valuable mods. While the map does require crossing the aqueduct in the center, with enough time you can usually find a safe (ish) path to reposition and cross at a different point if someone is camping gas or power and blocking your way. Its huge size also allows for more ability to stay out of the path of trouble, sticking to stashes along the outside and weaving through the scattered woods to make your way across.

Reserve - Countless times while playing Reserve, you find an enemy engaging you or your group, and move to a position which should give you a real cheeky peek spot to get a sneaky angle on them, only to find that there's a well positioned tree, bush, or other barrier blocking you from using that angle. The designers did a fantastic job of limiting the kinds of spots that could lock down every corner of building from one spot. The map not only contains some of the best loot in the game, but the presence of Raiders means you can find some fantastic FIR gear to a degree that no other map provides. The addition of the tunnels underneath Bishops/Pawns/King not only contains another viable extract for PMCs, but also makes those buildings no longer easily held by a group. Queen allows for a great spot for holding out and sniping, but the spots with the most viable angles are still able to be hit from the base itself below, or ambushed by coming up from the tunnels below.

A-Tier:
Interchange - The ULTRA mall, no doubt because it's based on a real life counterpart, feels the most realistic of all the available maps. Fighting inside the mall allows for so many options between both levels, and various ways to navigate around and get the drop on enemies holed up inside. KIBA and ULTRA medical are two of the more solid keys in the game, and while turning on the power can be a hassle, it provides a bit of a cost to those high value loot areas. The addition of the alarms inside (and the ability to disable them in the OLI side office and Security post upstairs) create some risk, as well as the opportunity to draw PMCs to the area if you play them right. The scattered pieces of wood in the hallways, and the various stores with broken windows littering the floor with glass provide good audio cues to players paying attention. All three main stores are filled with loot, with IDEA and OLI being key places to acquire essential loot for progression, and the offices/cubicles on both ends have over 25 PCs in total for chances at Flash Drives/GPUs and other tech loot. The stashes along the outside are well spread out, and early on can be a nice source of valuable loot for scavs/pmcs that don't want to get into the mall proper. The only thing keeping Interchange from being in the S-Tier is the hallowed run into the mall at the start, and the seemingly increasing frequency of getting late spawns which sometimes can lead to unwitting PMCs running headfirst into a team that just happened to spawn closer to the end of the mall you're entering into. Exit campers are also a nuisance here, but utilizing the garage underneath the mall can be leveraged to allow you more cover than some would make it seem, and limit some of those exit camping deaths.

Customs - The home of all early quests suffers from chokepoints and a lack of concentrated valuable loot, with the lone exception being Dorms. The chokes in the middle are certainly a nuisance, but you do have more flexibility than some players who have been burned by customs make it out to be. Often times people seem hard glued to the idea of going through the shortcut near new gas. The stashes are a bit of a wildcard, with some able to be safely looted, and some being a massive liability to search. The main issue with customs is the spawns on Big Red side, where if you're unlucky you can find yourself suddenly with a group of enemies behind you as you cross the river towards Dorms/Construction. There's not as much freedom in terms of making plays outmaneuvering your enemies, but there is some room for that, and a single PMC with good awareness and map knowledge can handle a large group if you leverage the map accordingly. Customs' upcoming expansion should add to this, and so far looks like a fantastic improvement on the map as a whole.

B-Tier:
Labs - Labs is a really cool designed map in terms of the compact verticality of all three levels, though its overwhelming when starting out on it, as the myriad of passageways and stairs to get from one point to another can lead to getting flanked by PMCs you had no idea where they came from. If you can get a Labs map without hackers, its a blast, and the lack of Insurance encourages a different sort of play - you're really rewarded for playing balls out and aggressive. I still haven't played enough online matches on Labs to really get a good feel for PMC movement and habits, but theres an undeniably huge amount of loot available here, granted some of it requires expensive keycards, and you have to, again, get a match without some hacker inside ruining everyone's fun.

Factory - If tight, compact, in your face battles are your jam, factory gives you all you could ever ask for. Sure, its a short timer and it always seems like when you need those Office kills no one shows up, but the map has a lot more flexibility than the small footprint would imply. It's not as endlessly replayable as some of the other maps, but its good fun when you just want to shoot some mans asap (or if you want to grind sniper skill in a goon stack by murdering the hordes of scavs inside)

C-Tier:
Woods - The Norvinsk Wildlife Preserve could be so absolutely splendid with a couple changes, but as is, the map is so light on loot, and the massive open fields with limited cover make for a lot of bad memories for players. The Sawmill area itself feels great, and drawn out fights with another team in that area can be tense and allow for some real great outplays and teamwork, but the mad rush to get inland can often lead to some real gross deaths. Connect a few of the myriad bunkers scattered across the map, or at least fill them with some more containers and scattered cover outside and you could have a map that really feels good.

F-Tier:

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TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Mesadoram posted:

Anyone try the 9X19 ammo QuakeMaker?

On paper it seems good, and putting that in a Beretta might make a good side arm when I am trying to snipe.

It's a legitimately worse flesh damage bullet than RIP. if you are going for legs, you should be shooting RIP. Sure the QM is a bit more damage than the Luger CCI, but neither are a "good" bullet by any measure. The new 9x19 7n31 however, is a very good bullet. It does have some sighting/zeroing issues though (fires higher than normal, IIRC)

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

empathe posted:

I'm so scared to start learning new maps. I know I can do it via Scav runs but it's so daunting to learn all the spawns, extracts, hot zones.

I've really only been doing customs, factory, and a tiny bit of woods to get Jaeger unlocked.

What do people recommend to try next?

Interchange or Shoreline stash runs

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Gabriel S. posted:

Is there a good text based guide that has decent loadouts?

Are you looking for gun presets? Or what gear to wear?

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Gabriel S. posted:

Basically, everything without having to watch several 15-minute YouTube videos or one super long video how damage works.

Ix's suggestion is perfectly suitable. If you're looking for more, tell us a bit about how you play/what you want to do. Part of the beauty of this game is the variety of options.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Gabriel S. posted:

More so trying to figure out which attachments are worth it and which ones aren't.

Uh...can you give us any specifics here? Looking at a certain platform in particular? Trying to snipe? Dump mags with no recoil? Whats your budget? Have you unlocked all trader levels?

Otherwise, you generally want recoil to go down and ergo to go up. Weight is also a factor.

If youre looking for a written up comprehensive guide to how attachments work and which are better than others, I dont know of one that exists. The wiki has most of that info though. :shrug:

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Oysters Autobio posted:

Basically the equalizer should be that a smart player with a lovely gun can methodically setup and ambush the chads out there who like to play riskier because of their expensive gear.

You can do this right now. I just took down a juiced 2 man on shoreline with a vpo215 like an hour ago.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

I'm still using PACA and the penis helmet and bank robber rigs and the SKS and other poo poo nobody wants so I don't worry so much about losing gear, I worry more about where I'm going to put it all when I log on the next day and find I got five or six full kits back in insurance.

If you use therapist for insurance, she will hold your stuff for ~5 days instead of what prapor does

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

BurritoJustice posted:

Ah gently caress, do I go BEAR or USEC?

USEC means you can comms to enemies and they might understand you, BEAR means you can do the same in Russian. BEAR gets the stylish flannel earlier.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

sephiRoth IRA posted:

This game is making me feel so inept. Just eating poo poo in every fight, scav or pmc. I've been focusing on customs, using the maps, trying to loot but mostly dying in 2-3 minutes because I can't win fights and have no clue where I'm being shot from. It's like i can't get any progress. Thinking about just writing off the $50 :/

Join the goon discord and play with goons, the game is so much better with buddies to watch your back and help you learn the game.

Also most goons are swimming in money at this point and can help you out by bringing you good ammo, or gear if youre really stuggling to survive

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

sephiRoth IRA posted:

Thanks for the advice (including the discord). Sounds like I need to grind it out and jump on discord when I can. That cash infusion a few posts up was nuts!

Theres no need to grind it out - just join the discord and grind it out with goons. A 5 man stack can be chaos but a solid 2-3 man is really some of the best gameplay

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

mysteryberto posted:

I'm having a hell of a time finding fire steel. It's the only item left between me and my Kappa. I have searched the common spots like Resort 301, resort radar, and reserve RB-AM/RB-GN. I've also searched labs next to the robot arms.

Did the spawn points change in 12.8 or do I just have the worst luck?

I havent seen one all wipe, but youre looking in the right places. You could try running Moonshine out of the scav case, that has a chance for kappa items.

Did you get 42nd Tea and the new Guitar Pick? Those were both added to the Collector in the most recent patch as well.

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TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

sum posted:

I bumbled my way into a lab keycard and a nice set of chad gear from two different scav runs. I'm a level 6 player with an Alpha case and am mediocre at the game. What are the odds I'd carry out enough loot to justify the hundreds of thousands of roubles worth of equipment and keys I'd have to use for a lab run?

Don't run labs now, save it until you get flea market access at lv 10, and sell it on there for around 300k.

Join the goon discord linked in the OP and play with goons. Most are dummy rich by now and can help you with getting used to maps or getting early quests done.

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