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miniscule12 posted:The supreme court recently declared worker protections for trans workers right? That happened under a trump presidency. it's true no actual progress has ever been achieved due to the initiative of the worthless demonrat party Only the people United
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miniscule12 posted:The supreme court recently declared worker protections for trans workers right? That happened under a trump presidency. So what you are saying is... Trump good?
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Jul 14, 2020 09:18
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Biden would be largely the same as trump, except with more decorum; ie: he'd have positive media coverage when caging children and killing brown people.
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Jul 14, 2020 09:21
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That's my thing right now. They're very similar, but when Trump does even the slightest stupid thing it gets into national news. It's a new meltdown, something ridiculous and "unpresidential". We have entire social structures obsessed with criticizing him. For Biden? They can't even wait to give him a pass on poo poo, so they're giving him a loving pass on everything he's already done, too. Four years ago "grab em by the pussy" was a sure disqualifier, and now our candidate has multiple harassment accusations and is credibly accused of rape. "kids in cages" they chant as they nominate and vote for the rear end in a top hat who helped build the border kennels.
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Jul 14, 2020 13:24
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there's millions of white liberals who are desperate for trump to be gone because they incorrectly think that the awful horrible bullshit is coming only from his direction rather than making up the very fabric of the universe and the air they breathe
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Jul 14, 2020 13:47
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empty whippet box posted:so, I have a trans twin sister. long story short, she texted me today, again trying to get me to vote for joe biden, again because she claims that joe biden will fight for trans rights. I think this is a ridiculously naive and stupid thing to think, and I am very clear about the fact that I am voting for the green party in large part BECAUSE trans rights are a central part of their platform. Joe Biden's weak, pathetic pandering in that direction does not convince me, nor does his voting record of being a bigot that goes back for loving decades. She said that biden coming out in support of gay marriage before obama did proves that I should vote for biden because he will make such a big difference, and wound up saying a lot of mean and hurtful things to me and calling me an anti-trans bigot and blocking me and poo poo because I am voting for the green party, in mississippi, instead of joe biden. am i a bad person for kind of hating lgbt leadership right now for just happily ceding all credit for the movements achievements to barack obama and joe biden when they didnt even pretend to give a poo poo about these issues until the public opinion fight was already basically over wait wait im sorry leadership is a strong word i mean celebrity shitheads who for some godforsaken reason are considered the standard bearers of the movement when they happily hang out with war criminals in their free time
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Jul 14, 2020 13:58
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Some Guy TT posted:am i a bad person for kind of hating lgbt leadership right now for just happily ceding all credit for the movements achievements to barack obama and joe biden when they didnt even pretend to give a poo poo about these issues until the public opinion fight was already basically over i absolutely loathe bootlicking queer people, they make me goddamn sick to my stomach and i'm gay as gently caress, all they want is to cede all power to meaningless figureheads how the everloving gently caress you grow up any flavor of queer in america at any time during any of our lifetimes and not see how people will perpetuate injustice based on differences is beyond me. my entire goddamn childhood and teenage life, outside of my family who was good about most things and I have no problems with, i got to see straight white people in goddamn laramie wyoming feel very comfortable going on racist, sexist, and homophobic screeds because there is a quiet fat white boy in the room. these same straight white people put on a goddamn smile mask, but a D after their name and a rainbow flag in their profile and suddenly we can believe everything they say, they're great allies now, trust them with your safety. just absolutely mush-brained loving idiocy, be better queer people for gently caress's sake, they'll sell you out the second they get done making sure rape is acceptable again
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Jul 14, 2020 14:21
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i feel the worst for the ones too young to remember the bush years and by extension obamas first campaign the homophobia in this country wasnt subtle and made trump at his most evil look like a cuddly gay bear they are the very first people biden would throw under the bus for even a hint of a promise from his best republican buddies in the senate
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Jul 14, 2020 14:31
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empty whippet box posted:there's millions of white liberals who are desperate for trump to be gone because they incorrectly think that the awful horrible bullshit is coming only from his direction rather than making up the very fabric of the universe and the air they breathe You really sound like you have a child's understanding of politics. Just because you don't agree with Joe Biden on everything doesn't mean he's actually just the same as Trump and that things can't get better. You have no real plan for improving anything, vamping on forums and actively promoting the worst option will get us nowhere. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jul 14, 2020 14:34
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Fame Douglas posted:You really sound like you have a child's understanding of politics. Just because you don't agree with Joe Biden on everything doesn't mean he's actually just the same as Trump and that things can't get better. things can’t get better because people like you exist
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Jul 14, 2020 14:38
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Some Guy TT posted:i feel the worst for the ones too young to remember the bush years and by extension obamas first campaign the homophobia in this country wasnt subtle and made trump at his most evil look like a cuddly gay bear the 2004 election basically made me lose all hope that anybody i grew up with or had the slightest smidge of what i then thought of as conservatism was redeemable or worthwhile as a human being. they were all in on homophobia so much that states went out of their way to ban it to look popular. and the democrats will run that bad or worse in 2028 because by that point abortion will be gone and they'll need another target trump is a better human being and president than any we've seen in our lives just by dint of showing us what a joke this bigoted system is and is far better than obama or bush, either one all 3 are better human beings and presidents than biden would be though
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Fame Douglas posted:You really sound like you have a child's understanding of politics. Just because you don't agree with Joe Biden on everything doesn't mean he's actually just the same as Trump and that things can't get better. rape is still wrong
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Jul 14, 2020 14:39
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Fame Douglas posted:You really sound like you have a child's understanding of politics. Just because you don't agree with Joe Biden on everything doesn't mean he's actually just the same as Trump and that things can't get better. What is the best Joe Biden policy that will improve the lives of American citizens?
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Jul 14, 2020 14:39
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Fame Douglas posted:You really sound like you have a child's understanding of politics. Just because you don't agree with Joe Biden on everything doesn't mean he's actually just the same as Trump and that things can't get better. Even though this shameful lib isn't saying the words "I will vote for Joe Biden" or "you should vote for Joe Biden", he is making arguments that Biden is better than Trump and that if you are promoting other options you are dumb and bad. This lib is clearly voting for Biden and encouraging people to vote Biden on the NOJOE thread. I leave it to the people's revolutionary court to decide what to do.
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Jul 14, 2020 14:50
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fame are you doing phone banks for joe are you canvassing
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you have to tell me if you’re a cop
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Jul 14, 2020 14:53
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Declan MacManus posted:fame are you doing phone banks for joe 
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Jul 14, 2020 15:00
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I made the mistake of going full Noe Joe in the Trump LoL thread and the SuccStorm that ensued was pretty intense, the aardvark had to start settling people down. But my faith has not shaken and no matter how many people try to explain it to me I just don’t think that not voting for Trump or Joe Biden makes me a CHUD or a CHUD enabler And if I’m being super honest people insisting that by not voting for their candidate I am part of the problem feels really fashy & authoritarian
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Jul 14, 2020 15:02
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Fame Douglas posted:You really sound like you have a child's understanding of politics. Just because you don't agree with Joe Biden on everything doesn't mean he's actually just the same as Trump and that things can't get better. Joe Biden is ON RECORD that he won't fix poo poo.
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Jul 14, 2020 15:03
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Some Guy TT posted:am i a bad person for kind of hating lgbt leadership right now for just happily ceding all credit for the movements achievements to barack obama and joe biden when they didnt even pretend to give a poo poo about these issues until the public opinion fight was already basically over black leadership did the very same thing after slobbering over bloomberg for a couple of weeks back in the olden times and just goes to prove neoliberalism is a loving curse. Fame Douglas posted:actively promoting the worst option will get us nowhere. maybe one day liberals will learn this lesson
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Fame Douglas posted:Just wear a MAGA hat so they stop pestering you, IMO. lol this kind of sarcastic privilege shaming immediately gives the person away as a cynical pos who thinks all vulnerable populations are obedient democrats ready to fight for whatever incremental scraps theyre given by a democratic government. when what actually happens is they dont vote and overwhelmingly are the ones who dont vote because theyve has their spirits ground away by years of one step forward, two steps back “progress” im trans, and im not voting for biden, and afaik neither are any of my trans friends. hope you get kicked in the dick you stupid motherfucker edit: Fame Douglas posted:You have no real plan for improving anything, vamping on forums and actively promoting the worst option will get us nowhere. hahahahaha christ misadventurous has issued a correction as of 15:23 on Jul 14, 2020 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:things can’t get better because people like you exist
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misadventurous posted:im trans, and im not voting for biden, and afaik neither are any of my trans friends. hope you get kicked in the dick you stupid motherfucker it makes me genuinely happy to hear that yay smart people i don't really have friends but in the before times i convinced several growlr hookups not to, who knows if it stuck but i just enjoy political hookup as an idea
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Jul 14, 2020 15:56
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I don't know anyone in the queer community who likes Biden except for, like, older white property owning gays involved in downtown redevelopment schemes
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Jul 14, 2020 16:08
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Kitfox88 posted:doing this in pa  Bust Rodd posted:And if I’m being super honest people insisting that by not voting for their candidate I am part of the problem feels really fashy & authoritarian It is! Liberals are anti-authoritarian only until someone challenges their worldview, then it's fash o'clock.
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Jul 14, 2020 16:44
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papa horny michael posted:I don't know anyone in the queer community who likes Biden except for, like, older white property owning gays involved in downtown redevelopment schemes it's not that they like him, it's that they are resigned to voting for him because most gays don't like thinking about politics any more than most people and are just more fully in the pocket of blue good red bad because republicans have been using us as a whipping boy of degeneracy for so long that nobody wants to look at the slimy rear end democrats who will sell you out the second it is convenient i want to respect a community of my notional peers more but holy gently caress some people really want to be ignorant and I was probably far worse a few years ago lol
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Jul 14, 2020 16:49
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Zvahl posted:it's not that they like him, it's that they are resigned to voting for him because most gays don't like thinking about politics any more than most people and are just more fully in the pocket of blue good red bad because republicans have been using us as a whipping boy of degeneracy for so long that nobody wants to look at the slimy rear end democrats who will sell you out the second it is convenient they like him because they are the enemy, not through lesser evil resignation.
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papa horny michael posted:they like him because they are the enemy, not through lesser evil resignation. i meant the generic non-bougie gays as re: democrats and just phrased it poorly, sorry the actual bourgeois homos are fully aware of exactly what good biden will do for their bank and are completely on board because there's no single thing they desire more than democrats being as conservative as possible just without the slurs and i hate them more than their straight counterparts just because they are closer to home
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Fame Douglas posted:You really sound like you have a child's understanding of politics. Just because you don't agree with Joe Biden on everything doesn't mean he's actually just the same as Trump and that things can't get better. Shut the gently caress up and go away and please leave me alone forever you condescending piece of poo poo. How the gently caress are you not getting banned for this poo poo?
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Jul 14, 2020 17:08
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I think no bans are going through until the websites completely under Jeffrey's control. So Michelle Goldberg up there is free to post
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Jul 14, 2020 17:17
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the way that democratic party elements overlap and infiltrate the organization of street movements disproves the claim that it will be easier to influence a Biden led government. Bush was opposed by a huge anti-war movement and immigrant rights movement. The immigrant rights movement did stop the passage of reactionary laws, so these movements had some power. However, both had a big amount of energy pushed into electing democrats, who then demobilized large parts of the movement and betrayed them. Obama proceeded to wage war against destroy another Middle Eastern country, with only very small protests opposing him in the US. Obama did implement DACA in his second term, but it was in response to what was basically a dissident section of the immigrant rights struggle returning to direct action. The mass protests for immigrant rights did not happen under Obama. Then Trump got put into power and did all he could to reverse Obama's minor concessions. I think protests like the recent George Floyd uprisings can and should continue if Biden gets elected. but, people have to realize that Biden is just as much of an obstacle to change as Trump.
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no idea on the bans and it's probably like was said above but someone who thinks joe biden is a solution is someone whose contempt you should relish, he's a conservative rear end in a top hat who thinks rape is fine if the person doing it is sufficiently powerful you're a pretty fun person and your politics are good =)
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leftists being childish/throwing a tantrum/needing to grow up might be the most infuriating lib line after the russophobia especially given it’s usually addressed to people in their 30s and 40s who have probably voted “pragmatically” most of their lives (not that it would be less lovely to address a younger adult like that) can’t even imagine it’s productive. who the hell wants to listen to someone who talks to you like you’re a stupid child? are they projecting their need for a compassionate but firm manager/strong mom to tell them to clean their room??
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misadventurous posted:leftists being childish/throwing a tantrum/needing to grow up might be the most infuriating lib line after the russophobia love to be a 38 year old child with a full time job and no medical insurance, i'm sure boomers would have handled being called childish at 38 very well and normally
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“younger voters” like “millennials” are all perpetually snot nosed punk teenagers in the boomer minds eye capable of destroying industries and deciding elections, but also we’re immature and don’t really know what we want and need to shush while the grownups are talking. and none of us vote anyway so our opinions don’t matter
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Fame Douglas posted:You really sound like you have a child's understanding of politics. Just because you don't agree with Joe Biden on everything doesn't mean he's actually just the same as Trump and that things can't get better. sounds like the phone banking isnt going well 
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Fame Douglas posted:You really sound like you have a child's understanding of politics. Just because you don't agree with Joe Biden on everything doesn't mean he's actually just the same as Trump and that things can't get better. you’re a rape enabler, dipshit. you support men raping women and being rewarded for it.
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People who think this impossibly dumbfuck shithole country is salvageable are as dumb as chuds. People who think Joe Biden is the one who can salvage it are even dumber.
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OutOfPrint posted:It is! Liberals are anti-authoritarian only until someone challenges their worldview, then it's fash o'clock. Ten degrees to the left of center in good times, ten degrees to the right of center when it affects them personally. Phil Ochs remains timeless.
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