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Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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yall did great, i enjoyed it v much

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4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


Jonny 290 posted:

yall did great, i enjoyed it v much

thanks, really glad that you enjoyed it. i guess most of the world was-is glued to the sportsball, at least here in euroland

i think if i squint a little bit then the outro bit almost sounds like manuel göttsching, which is great because it's a nice tribute to the guy (and i found out just today that he had passed)

anyway now i need to figure out what caused the roland xv5080 replace all presets except the bass with piano wtf

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


im_sorry posted:

I just made this.

https://soundcloud.com/the_door_is_scary/fighting-with-device-drivers

I love it when the AI gets totally confused generating an image.

ifn’ ya don’t mind i tried out chopping and remixing this but i have NO idea what im doing lol

basic poo poo like “have a bass patch” and “pad it out” is just not coming to me today :negative:

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


if/when im done can ya critique it pls

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Mess with the best, die like the rest
https://soundcloud.com/kohlbern-jary/brap1216-crawl3

Man this is fun. And actually going somewhere for once I think.

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


it was a productive weekend, i made a track out of the intro of our last stream https://soundcloud.com/trent-hawkins/telecharger-twilight-of-the-dogs. really wish i would have found the energy to make the bassline-rhythm section more interesting by some root note changes a la 12 bar blues.

and here's this year's 50th weeklybeats instalment https://soundcloud.com/trent-hawkins/2022-5052a. i hope that come next year i will find the time and willpower to go through all of this year's weeklies and properly finish them into an album thing. i reaalllly hope

also tune in tomorrow for this year's last livestream: https://trenthawkins.bandcamp.com/merch/telecharger-livestream-81

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


doubleposting to mention that i will be doing a stream in approx 2h https://cohost.org/thawkins/post/664486-telecharger-livestre

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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Free plugins always good!

Arturia giving the MS-20 filter away

https://www.arturia.com/products/software-effects/filter-ms-20/overview

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
That MS20 filter gets really gnarly and chewy, I stuck it after the actual Arturia MS20 plugin on an acid sequence I made (already with filter mod going on) and it sounded killer.
Gonna run some breaks through it I reckon

also Waves H-Comp is free for about another 36 hours

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Mess with the best, die like the rest
https://soundcloud.com/kohlbern-jary/brap1221-inwater

Played around with chopping up some samples, need to do the rest of the speech still but gently caress that thing's long and there's a ton of material I might want to use lol.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


c music s: did not bring any music making things side form my phone over this Christmas break, instead I am going to focus on the higher level!!! analyzing music I like, breaking it down from the top, and understanding the parts. then once I understand why things were put together a certain way, try my own top down design.

current jam:https://youtu.be/2DuvYC3zENI

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


Jonny 290 posted:

Free plugins always good!

Arturia giving the MS-20 filter away

https://www.arturia.com/products/software-effects/filter-ms-20/overview

idk this sounds like some gang thing

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


random mostly useless observation - this 4/4 track im analyzing likes to organize in powers of 2

2^2 beats = 1 bar
2^3 beats = 2 bars (default Renoise pattern length)
2^

1 1 1 1 beats = 1 beat x 4 = 1 bar = 2^2 beats
2 2 2 2 bars = 2 bars x 4 = 8 bars = 1 section (one voice-idea focus per section) = 32 beats = 2^5 beats
1 1 1 1 section = 1 section x 4 = 1 part (distinct halves of the song analogous to A or B etc. in song forms) = 32 bars = 128 beats = 2^7 beats
1 1 parts = 1 part x 2 = = ~1 AB song (give or take intro and bridge) = 64 bars = 256 beats = 2^8 beats

one chord change (e.g. I->V) per two bars
one or two voice additions/swaps/introductions per section
four sections per part

aside from the obvious “4 is a power of two” thing, i suppose this makes sense when you work backwards from 64 bars, though im still not 100% sure why there’s two bars per chord. i suppose to ensure the listener gets familiar with the chord over a long enough time (~5s).

Dukes Mayo Clinic
Aug 31, 2009

Pollyanna posted:

, though im still not 100% sure why there’s two bars per chord. i suppose to ensure the listener gets familiar with the chord over a long enough time (~5s).

Because it sounds good, and that’s a nice unit of time for the ear to stabilize before something changes. A different piece might break down as two chords per bar, for the same reasons.

Now try melding patterns of powers of 3 over your powers of 2 and see what happens.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Mess with the best, die like the rest
I think it's because it's exponential with 4/4 time, I've noticed if I do 3/4 I tend to think in 3 or 6 bar phrases for instance. But yeah, at the end of the day it's just what sounds good really.

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

you might have noticed how, like, 140bpm tracks seem to have the good part at 0:55. we've been stacking 16 bar loops since the beginning of time

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


yeah house and techno always have cycles
of 4x4 beats that end with a small drum fill or
other variation. drops, new elements etc almost always happen at the beginning of a 16 or 32
beat segment

makes it easy to dj if you know this stuff. also dont listen to me i am a shittty dj but i have had fun playing around with techno like that

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


being a rock/metal guitarist for 20 odd years I never actually learned how to play bass with fingerpicking. so I've started learning how to do it.

ooooh man the blister on my right middle finger after attempting 2112. fuckin ouuuuuch

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


i think you only build calluses by not playing to the point of blisters, right?

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

4lokos basilisk posted:

idk this sounds like some gang thing

worse

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


my lovely second hand ibanez gio bass has given up the ghost electronically and I don't think it's worth trying to fix, so I'm thinkin about grabbing a squier jazz bass. one of my favourite bass tones is geddy lee in the early 80s and that's all just jazz bass into compressor and ampeg preamp into the board and gently caress it that sounds perfect to do on the cheap for me for fun

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

my sons been playing a bit of bass lately, and the bass isn’t too bad but the amp is 28 year old 10-15watt solid state guitar practice amp I got when was 14

might make it a goal to get him an amp with guts so he’s actually hearing the root note lol not just the overtones

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


despite being curious about guitars and how their interface guides you towards certain musical choices I am not in the mood to learn to play one cuz I have way too much to do already

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

I wish I had learned keys when I was young and had motivation to put time into learning musical instrument

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

echinopsis posted:

I wish I had learned keys when I was young and had motivation to put time into learning musical instrument

you still can

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3ULyDPyjR0
wherein a dude finds his favorite session guitarist's amps on craigslist, buys them, and makes amp modeling packs

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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irs and modeling are amazing now. i dont even gently caress with my amps any more. i double click on one of my neural dsp amps and go to town. they're so fun

Kernel Sanders
Sep 15, 2020
I just learned that Joe Pass, one of the greatest jazz guitarist ever, ran his ES-175 straight into the front of the house via a DI box. No amp, no preamp, just loving rawdogging it into the mixer lmao.

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe
tone is in the fingers

and groove is in the heart

sing it, baby

Dukes Mayo Clinic
Aug 31, 2009
I’ve been wanting a baritone electric guitar for a while and I think I’ma get one. 30” scale seems silly but I have giant hands and play chords on a p-bass with 34” scale, so maybe not so wild after all. There are very large sounds I wanna make with this thing.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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Dukes Mayo Clinic posted:

I’ve been wanting a baritone electric guitar for a while and I think I’ma get one. 30” scale seems silly but I have giant hands and play chords on a p-bass with 34” scale, so maybe not so wild after all. There are very large sounds I wanna make with this thing.

30's are awesome. my 7 string is at 26.5" so an inch over strat scale, and i love messing with my Giant Guitar:



octave down, 30" scale, 2 humbuckers. i replaced the stock pickups with some Schecters from a friendly soul in ML who thought they were too bright for regular guitar, which is exactly what it needed

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

when my son was playing my bass the other day I noticed it’s a yamaha

it defo needs new strings. literally the E string has snapped and isn’t there lmao.

and an amp that can deliver some bass, so he can feel what he’s doing

Dukes Mayo Clinic
Aug 31, 2009

echinopsis posted:

and an amp that can deliver some bass, so he can feel what he’s doing

as a child who woke his parents very late at night with a bass amp, let me suggest something like one of these headphone amps: https://musicianshq.com/best-bass-headphone-amplifier-blackstar-vs-vox-vs-donner/

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

hmm that’s the best idea

thanks

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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i dont use it any more, if you want ill send your kid my ashdown 2x10 if you pay shipping

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

what’s it weigh do ya reckon?
that would be extremely generous and kind of you

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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lol thats the joke its 38kg, i bet it'd be like $500 to get there

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




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the real actual answer is one of those little headphone jobbies, theyre great. or get like a little modeling pedal and just run it into a stereo or something

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

yeah. the headphone amp appeals cos it means he can just go wherever in the house without having to pick anything up

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4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


i have a really old zoom b2.1u bass multieffects unit where you basically plug in your headphones and get the amplified sound with some effects as well if you want. that thing is like 15 years old, so idk what the best thing to get nowadays is. something like this probably https://www.thomann.de/fr/zoom_b1four_bass_multi_effect.htm

and you can just plug it into a real amp when you need to as well

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