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I've been messing around with ableton and friends lately. I have a pocket operator (PO-32) and it's great for making little loops (and Little Jones loves it). I just ordered an audio interface, so I'll be able to record soft synths and my PO and other stuff into ableton. i really like animoog and basically it makes me not ever really care about getting a real synth. maybe one day I'll want a midi controller but not today I also dug my electric guitar out of the closet and have been having a great time re-learning it. im looking forward to what kind of weird poo poo I can do by running it into ableton post about music you make, even if you suck at it like i do
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I got given a keytar a few years ago, in the meantime i have doubled down and started a band: https://starcontrol1.bandcamp.com I’m still learning about how all the millions of settings and stuff in ableton work but it’s pretty fun! for other newbie synthy types, there is a great tutorial video series by Dean Friedman on Youtube: https://youtu.be/atvtBE6t48M the awkwardness and terrible jokes are pretty endearing.
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Mar 4, 2020 06:36
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I love using my synth so much. it’s a bass station ii I’d love to make a stand up gig much like how some people use a guitar, but for atmosphere during a story. idk. having a poly synth would change everything. I can get amazing sounds out of the bass station but hard to know how any of them would fit into anything a bunch of the noises I make remind me of poo poo i used to hear on tool albums, i’m sure parts of third eye are synth problem is I just don’t have the raw talent even if I can drum up the skill. i’m a knob twister at heart and am good at working out what everything does and how to take advantage of it, and that attitude works in rodtronics sometimes because everything visual is just placed and can be edited, but the temporal judgment required to make good music and melodies just isn’t there. i still try tho
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Mar 4, 2020 07:41
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i couldn't make a melody in ableton just clickin' around to save my life, but animoog for real made me able to make them. they're still bad of course, but being able to say "now you're a pentatonic keyboard, it is impossible for me to play a bad note" and then mashing away whatever pops into my head has worked pretty well. maybe base station lets you do that, though? i don't really recommend any of the expansions i've bought, but it's so worth $5. I think the ipad version is way more expensive, though, and i'm not sure if it has an android version. what i'm saying, though, is that i also have no talent but certain tools make it way easier. i'll never be great, but if we keep trying and practicing we can both be generally competent  Thanks for that link, Crazy Achmed! I'm gonna watch that today i think 'cause I feel like crap and am probably gonna call in sick to work. are keytars generally midi controllers, or are they keyboards all on their own with amazing form factors?
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Mar 4, 2020 17:10
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I’m always keen to embrace and expand. there’s also a but if music in the retrowave thread too bassstation is a true hardware synth so morbid like you mentioned, but I can control it via midi with ableton so i could do that, and it’s possibly more interesting to note that you can use the bassstation as a midi controller for ableton, and after making computer music (all of it poo poo right back to the fruity loops days) for almost 2 decades before using a proper midi keyboard and proper audio device I can say it’s definitely a game changer using both so take that as you will
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Mar 4, 2020 18:43
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mine is a cheap midi controller, I’ve already had to open it up and replace a pot. but hey, it works. I tend not to stray too far from the presets, but i really should load up a basic analog synth and have a go with trying to make a nice tone out of it from scratch.
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Mar 4, 2020 20:23
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i never really got crazy delicious dirty noises until I started loving around with mine but I think it’s more the physical ness of the knobs and switches more than that it’s true analog rather than digital god I want a novation peak  three oscillators and 8 voices. I think the oscillators are digital but very high hz and then the rest is analog. resonance on the filter cutoff is meaning more and more to me now, working out how to use it to it’s advantage rather than just attenuating higher freqs
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Mar 4, 2020 22:29
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So I managed to get some super sweet pictures of my banjo the other day:     It's not a very expensive one (It's a chinese make) but the sound of it actually isn't all that different from the really expensive ones, and it looks really pretty, which is something that the $1000 banjos just don't do, apparently. I've wanted to get into electronic music for a long time but I've never really felt very comfortable with any of the interfaces. They all seem very, very clunky ;-; alexandriao fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Mar 4, 2020 |
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Mar 4, 2020 23:01
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well you could go the other way, get a pickup for your banjo and then fall down the rabbit hole of effects pedals and live looping, that stuff is also really fun
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Mar 5, 2020 00:09
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echinopsis posted:i never really got crazy delicious dirty noises until I started loving around with mine but I think it’s more the physical ness of the knobs and switches more than that it’s true analog rather than digital is this still about music
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Mar 5, 2020 02:58
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sadly yes
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Mar 5, 2020 04:24
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im in a pop cover band
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Mar 5, 2020 04:37
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my audio interface came today and i made beeps and boops go from animoog into the computer. i hope to be able to have leads and pads/bass/etc all in the same track now this track is gonna end up costing me more money than is reasonable
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Mar 5, 2020 06:34
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in college i wrote a 6 band fm synth in max/msp and tried to make a genetic algorithm to program it to sound like a piano, but i couldnt figure out a good way to evaluate and score for fitness so it ended up just making tons of sound effects that sound like they came from a horror movie foley studio
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Mar 5, 2020 06:40
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fart simpson posted:im in a pop cover band nice Achmed Jones posted:my audio interface came today and i made beeps and boops go from animoog into the computer. i hope to be able to have leads and pads/bass/etc all in the same track now gently caress yes man
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Mar 5, 2020 07:25
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oh hey i like music and synths. I have too many and I don't play with them enough. I guess the last interesting thing I did musically is build a distortion pedal, though not really a pedal cause it doesn't have a switch.
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Mar 5, 2020 07:38
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sick what kind of design
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i was thinking about building a raspberry pi fx thingy with sonic pi and loving around with my flatmates guitar
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Mar 5, 2020 10:55
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do it plz I'm interested
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i have a new raspberry pi that does almost nothing an old raspberry pi that does literally nothing, sonic pi looks dope a f
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Working from home today. Gonna play some piano at lunch e: trip report: it ruled Asleep Style fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Mar 5, 2020 |
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Mar 5, 2020 18:48
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Buy some UA gear before the price goes up when Luna comes out
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Mar 5, 2020 21:46
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i plugged my guitar into the audio interface and did weird things to it through ableton at lunch ableton's amp/cab modeling is terrible, but the weird effects are awesome. i was hoping that i'd be able to put my fender champion 30 dsp back in the closet, but it's generally better at getting crunch than anything i was able to do in ableton
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Mar 5, 2020 22:17
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my guitar stays in the case, my electric piano is covered in fly poo poo, and my recorder seems to be permanently in my child’s mouth.
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Mar 6, 2020 08:50
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well the plan is to play some inane crust punk with friends 2020 (who actually know they are instruments)
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Mar 6, 2020 13:33
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Achmed Jones posted:my audio interface came today and i made beeps and boops go from animoog into the computer. i hope to be able to have leads and pads/bass/etc all in the same track now On the other hand my AE modular kit finally arrived. I've only had about an hour to play with it but managed to do this fun little track...it's all the AE, no external fx or anything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5OLoBr-2nw
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That's dope as hell. Is all of that coming from the rack? I have no idea how modulars work - it surprised me to hear "normal synth" and drums coming from it
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Thanks! Yeah everything is coming from that rack. I'm sort of cheating with the drum sounds because one of the modules gives you 3 lofi drumkits, on my eurorack I find it way more fun to build the drums from scratch but I don't have enough modules on the AE to do that yet. I can explain how that setup above works if you're interested, though. Modular can look complicated but it's really dead simple, it's just the basic parts of a 'normal' synth except you hook the oscillators/envelopes/filters/amps etc yourself, which gives you way more flexibility because you can plug stuff in however you like and create crazy feedback loops and stuff. If you're sequencing from the modular itself (like in the above vid) you can do all sorts of generative stuff, or just hook stuff up randomly and let it loose. Plus you can buy a small system and just let it grow as your understanding gets better. Or download VCV Rack for free or spend a few bucks on Reaktor, and mess around with those, it's exactly the same principle!
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LuckySevens posted:i was thinking about building a raspberry pi fx thingy with sonic pi and loving around with my flatmates guitar Achmed Jones posted:i have a new raspberry pi that does almost nothing an old raspberry pi that does literally nothing, sonic pi looks dope a f only mess around with the pi if you already have one, if you are buying, get an http://www.axoloti.com/ instead, it seems much more geared towards making music and providing you tools for it at the get-go. the pi is a full general purpose computer, which means you'll have to janitor and set things up to do audio. i got a pi for running pure data patches, and i found it cumbersome to work with, because: * the integrated audio on the pi is crap, iirc the dac does not go up to 22kHz so i got a cheapo behringer usb interface to fix that * i suck at linux touching so i could not get my pure data patch to start up on boot so that it would receive midi from my apk mini and output sound through the behringer interface maybe one day i will revisit this project because what i wanted to do is have a midi/audio-looper that I could bring along to jam sessions without barging in with a "real" computer, basically a poor turbonerd's octatrack the sonic pi stuff sounds good but if you're already using a laptop/computer to live-code, why do it on the pi?
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echinopsis posted:sick what kind of design s'a proco rat clone.I found a bag of the old opamps they use for those on ebay and designed a board to remember how to solder SMD.
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does anyone know of a cheap or free plugin to make ableton basically sound like the general midi setup that every pc had as default in the 90s? the aesthetic is very important
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Crazy Achmed posted:does anyone know of a cheap or free plugin to make ableton basically sound like the general midi setup that every pc had as default in the 90s? I think you can get a soundfont player and a soundfont. yeah here is an sf2 file https://musical-artifacts.com/artifacts/713 (click the download button on the upper right) and this is a vst that should work, it's by plogue who've been around a while and made some cool stuff. https://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando.html Zaxxon fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Mar 8, 2020 |
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Mar 8, 2020 06:31
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sforzando is great and if you are looking for other interesting sample packs for it check out https://www.productionvoices.com/product/the-halfling-for-sforzando/ and https://www.productionvoices.com/product/death-piano-sforzando/
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on the subject of live coding stuff here is a sequencer that maybe also has the yospos aesthetic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaI_TuISSJE edit: there is a comment that suggests hooking it up to the VCV rack which seems like a insanely good idea reminder that ALL THIS STUFF IS FREE SOFTWARE meaning you dont have to pay nothign 4lokos basilisk fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Mar 8, 2020 |
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thanks for those links! I watched those dean friedman videos and they were great. i didn't know what timbre was before (or how to pronounce it) and now i feel like I understand what's going on with all the settings I play with. I'm gonna download vcv rack today. ngl though I stopped halfway through the third video cause it seemed to be about how to do things on some then-current synths rather than new concepts about synthesis toiletbrush I would absolutely enjoy an effortpost on wtf-modular, but if it's easier to point me at an article or video somewhere that's 💯 too
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Penisface posted:on the subject of live coding stuff here is a sequencer that maybe also has the yospos aesthetic Ughhhh. So I was involved in the community where this was made and gave advice to the author before it became a music program (it was going to be a programming tool originally). It looks like a super cool thing! But I have really bad memories of that place. I went through about 2 years of some repeated harassment by an admin on the slack that was never sorted out, and then got kicked out because I finally, finally lost my cool at them and it happened to be the one day the owner was in (They lied to my face and said it was just a tempban, too). After asking other admins to deal with it and going through every single process I could to get it resolved. Turns out about 5 people if not many, many more left the community because of that single person. So my cursory warning about Merveilles: Use the tools, just, don't touch the community with a bargepole. E: back On Topic - I used VCV Rack a while back? It seemed cool but I had zero idea of what I was doing and felt I needed to learn a lot, lot more. Anyone have any articles on like, synthesizer theory or explanation or something? I didn't find anything worth reading ;-;
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name and shame
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alexandriao posted:Ughhhh. So I was involved in the community where this was made and gave advice to the author before it became a music program (it was going to be a programming tool originally).
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hi I have a copy of Logic because the mac I bought off my friend was just bought through the campus bookstore which included the Pro Apps Suite but they never bothered to sign into the App Store to tie the purchase to their account, so it's mine forever now. I want to make background music for YouTubes that isn't the same stock music that sounds like it came out of a Hyundai ad which has people going 'woooaaaaaaaahhhhhhh' – where do I start learning how to make stuff in here because this poo poo seems cool but there's way too many buttons
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alexandriao posted:Anyone have any articles on like, synthesizer theory or explanation or something? I didn't find anything worth reading ;-; Andrew Huang has a good 20ish minute video on modular https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWslSTTkiFU Look Mum No Computer But More Serious-Ish has like 2 channels on this stuff; and while the form-factors are different from vcvrack and eurorack the fundamentals are the same https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-QuVLhCc4hmJaiLSCMwcw If you're in VCV Rack land it's dope because you don't have to shell out $90 every time you need an envelope generator, you just right click a few times effortedit: Modular is all about automation. You often have a bunch of inputs and outputs and can wire things together however you please. Rack 1.x now ships with a default patch that makes sound. Typically patches have at least: - a voice (VCO (voltage controlled oscillator)) - an amplifier (VCA) - some way to get pitch data (control voltage) into your VCO's "tune" parameter - some way to get "play this note" data (a "gate" or a "trigger") into your VCA's amplitude parameter. Gates sustain over a period of time, while triggers are short blasts. - a way to turn a gate or trigger into a curve (so you can change the amplitude over time with a gradient, instead of MAX LOUD and MAX QUIET), this duty can be done by an envelope generator or a function generator and even some sequencers. You'd have a midi keyboard send gates (send a control voltage until i let go of the key), but something like a drum sequencers end up being triggers because you want to play that wicked sweet kick drum sample till the very end once you hit the button So you might have a patch that's like MIDI2CV VCO ADSR (a type of Envelope Generator) VCA Mixer/Speakers MIDI2CV Gate -> Envelope Generator Trig/Gate input MIDI2CV Pitch -> VCO Pitch input VCO Audio Out -> VCA Audio In EG Output -> VCA Amplitude VCA Audio Out -> Mixer/Spakers Pitch in/out is probably going to be labeled V/Oct because in eurorack 1 volt = 1 octave. 
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