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Kernel Sanders
Sep 15, 2020
after barely looking at my digitakt for months i suddenly discovered that elektron dropped a song mode out of nowhere?!

was thinking about selling the digitakt but now I’m more in love than ever and looking for a companion digitone.

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Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



nah it sucks, you better sell the digitakt to me for super cheap

Kernel Sanders
Sep 15, 2020
the best thing about this socialist hellhole are the abdunant $400 digitakts

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



Kernel Sanders posted:

the best thing about this socialist hellhole are the abdunant $400 digitakts

please tell me more. i apologize if i am missing a joke but im down to import from wherever assuming it's not crazy expensive and i can figure out how to use whatever non-english marketplace you're referring to

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


ill probably end up getting a digitakt some day in the future when its no longer cool

for now i should keep learning my mpc 1000, which i keep mostly using as a midi controller and not so much as a dawless production center

this may be a sign that i just prefer working with a computer, but lets choose to ignore this for the time being

Kernel Sanders
Sep 15, 2020

Achmed Jones posted:

please tell me more. i apologize if i am missing a joke but im down to import from wherever assuming it's not crazy expensive and i can figure out how to use whatever non-english marketplace you're referring to

its on local (nordic) musician craiglist websites. you need to be local to be able to pay and pick them up, unfortunately. even if you found someone willing to accept say, paypal, shipping and customs would eat up the profit

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



Kernel Sanders posted:

its on local (nordic) musician craiglist websites. you need to be local to be able to pay and pick them up, unfortunately. even if you found someone willing to accept say, paypal, shipping and customs would eat up the profit

ahh, gotcha. thanks for the explanation at least :)

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


i declare wednesdays music days. they are the days I do music after work

JNCO BILOBA
Nov 22, 2005

Anyone utilizing Ableton Note? I just got it and from what I can tell, this will be really helpful for me.

DaTroof
Nov 16, 2000

CC LIMERICK CONTEST GRAND CHAMPION
There once was a poster named Troof
Who was getting quite long in the toof

JNCO BILOBA posted:

Anyone utilizing Ableton Note? I just got it and from what I can tell, this will be really helpful for me.

looks interesting, but would it be useful to someone who doesn't use ableton anywhere else? it'd be cool to have a mobile music app to mess around in, but cooler if i could export projects to my home studio

Lotron
Aug 15, 2006

Still clownin'
ever since i was a little boy ive wanted an amen break sample pack
now--
ancient secrets have been revealed to me
https://soundcloud.com/splatahouse/sketchbook-oct-19

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


Lotron posted:

ever since i was a little boy ive wanted an amen break sample pack
now--
ancient secrets have been revealed to me
https://soundcloud.com/splatahouse/sketchbook-oct-19

that sounds good.

i have had an mpc 1000 for close to a year now and i still havent tried playing around with chopping beats. should give it a shot

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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oh we posting amens

https://soundcloud.com/jonny290/judgement

this track is older than hbag

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
https://soundcloud.com/kohlbern-jary/brap1025-a303ineveryhome

Finally got the right goddamn 3.5mm to 5 pin MIDI adapters for the Electribe so I threw a couple patterns in and tweaked away at the knobs on the 03 for a bit. Drums are pretty simplistic because I ran into issues actually triggering my drum machine with polyphony from the Electribe, should be able to spice it up once I get some samples loaded in here.

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


posting in here instead of making music, which i should be doing

also we did our weekly livestream yesterday and i remember parts of it being good https://soundcloud.com/trent-hawkins/telecharger-livestream-75

Dukes Mayo Clinic
Aug 31, 2009
I got a new midi controller that came with a license for Xpand 2 and I am like a tiny child again twiddling knobs and breaking poo poo every ninety seconds because my mappings are hosed and it’s great fun.

https://voca.ro/1Osm4fXEpXJa

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


c music s: putzing around with sequencing methods

https://on.soundcloud.com/iPS9BYyG4Pt6C12r6

p fun

as for the snippet, i think it sounds good on its own, but is not a freestanding independent thing. would love to see it elevated in a larger context

killhamster
Apr 15, 2004

SCAMMER
Hero Member
got this guy for my birthday this year



also been remixing another track from a buddy bc that's all i do lately

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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two knob SGs are objectively superior. i cannot stand 4knob gibsons there is no point arghhhh and it makes them look so busy

killhamster
Apr 15, 2004

SCAMMER
Hero Member
tbh i've never really bothered with the knobs on any guitar i've owned, if i want to adjust the tone i can do it in fx/amp/DAW :smugdog:

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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i dont like having a lot of knobs but i use pull pots heavily

one of my basses is wired to the hilt - neck volume is a series/parallel pull pot, bridge volume is a phase switch pull pot, and i replaced the tone knob with a homebrew varitone circuit that works awesome.



i think it looks pretty cool too with the chicken head knob on the varitone

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


i haven't bought any music gear since september and it's been really good to me by making me focus on getting more out of my gear. also saved a bunch of money

and then i noticed that soundcloud pro unlimited has been costing 99 eurobucks per year and i have dropped a decent synth's price on just being able to post unlimited tracks on soundcloud (that nobody ends up listening to)

killhamster
Apr 15, 2004

SCAMMER
Hero Member
so i finally sat down and forced myself to complete something that was nebulous and unstructured and this is what came out

https://soundcloud.com/killhamster/arthur-for-grandma-rbm-remix

i keep taking my buddies' poo poo and remixing it but i'm gonna run out of source material soon and then i have to go back to trying to write things for myself

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Trying to take the step from doing 4-bar loops I dig to structuring whole songs, does anyone have any good resources on like, how to come up with that structure? Like, I can build up say a chorus part pretty well at this point, but then when it comes time to transition I'm not really sure what to do to make something that feels cohesive with the previous part but changes the energy. I realize the answer is probably just "actively listen to music you like more", but if there's some guidelines I can use it would definitely help for me.

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


InternetOfTwinks posted:

Trying to take the step from doing 4-bar loops I dig to structuring whole songs, does anyone have any good resources on like, how to come up with that structure? Like, I can build up say a chorus part pretty well at this point, but then when it comes time to transition I'm not really sure what to do to make something that feels cohesive with the previous part but changes the energy. I realize the answer is probably just "actively listen to music you like more", but if there's some guidelines I can use it would definitely help for me.

there is a life hack where you take a track that is in the style you want to make, and then overlay your loops on that track and kind of copy the structure

this could be a start?

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone

InternetOfTwinks posted:

Trying to take the step from doing 4-bar loops I dig to structuring whole songs, does anyone have any good resources on like, how to come up with that structure? Like, I can build up say a chorus part pretty well at this point, but then when it comes time to transition I'm not really sure what to do to make something that feels cohesive with the previous part but changes the energy. I realize the answer is probably just "actively listen to music you like more", but if there's some guidelines I can use it would definitely help for me.

this isn't exactly what you're talking about but I watched it the other day and I think it might give you some ideas about how to turn 4 bars into a song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpWsy-f2eRg&t=331s

if the 4 bar phrases sound enough like they're building internally (and not just being looped verbatim over and over again) I bet the transitions will feel more natural. also throw in a drum fill maybe?
if the instrumentation is totally different between your verse and chorus or whatever you might could allude to the other phrase with lil teases of its instruments

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone
also according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_structure#Variation_on_the_basic_structure bob dylan made a song that was just AAA so you can just keep hammering that 4 bars if you want and dont even transition to anything, gently caress it

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Yeah, that's definitely going to be some stuff I try to integrate. Adding some automation, working with longer patterns and adding fills and stuff. Going for like an early NIN/Skinny Puppy kind of thing too so building up a good library of samples will let me add some color to things. Is there a good way to downsample wav files in the way early digital samplers did? I know that's really important to get that low fidelity crunch on things, electribe wants it's samples in 16 or 24 bit though so I'll have to fake it.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


InternetOfTwinks posted:

Trying to take the step from doing 4-bar loops I dig to structuring whole songs, does anyone have any good resources on like, how to come up with that structure? Like, I can build up say a chorus part pretty well at this point, but then when it comes time to transition I'm not really sure what to do to make something that feels cohesive with the previous part but changes the energy. I realize the answer is probably just "actively listen to music you like more", but if there's some guidelines I can use it would definitely help for me.

literally and unironically just copy what a song or track you like does

uniqueness is for the weak, we’re here to fail

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


also don’t worry about adding the right structure. just add any structure at all. 32 bars are better than 4 bars. bad transitions are better than no transitions

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


you may say, “but pollyanna, I have no idea what to fill those 32 bars with other than what I already have!”. and I say yes, that’s fine. you may say, “but pollyanna, won’t I make something bad or something repetitive?”. and I say yes, no one’s listening so it doesn’t matter.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


take pride in being a thief

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


You know what I wanna do? I want to make an album that is centered entirely around sounds, ideas, loops, progressions, rhythms, patches, and other unique garbage from people more successful than me. Chopped up poo poo I like and obvious Xerox copies of real, better songs and tracks. Minimal adjustment just to sound good to my ears. Bitch, imma steal. I’m sick of trying to be unique and pure and independently valuable and have a justified existence. Anyone who says they are is a loving liar.

I ain’t gonna sell it or let anyone make money off of it, so don’t loving sue me you RIAA-bootlicking pricks. Not like anyone’s listening anyway. Timbaland can suck my teeny weeny peeny gently caress u.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino

InternetOfTwinks posted:

Yeah, that's definitely going to be some stuff I try to integrate. Adding some automation, working with longer patterns and adding fills and stuff. Going for like an early NIN/Skinny Puppy kind of thing too so building up a good library of samples will let me add some color to things. Is there a good way to downsample wav files in the way early digital samplers did? I know that's really important to get that low fidelity crunch on things, electribe wants it's samples in 16 or 24 bit though so I'll have to fake it

Bitcrusher plugins are your friend here. Reduce the sample rate on the plugin to 12 and either record that to a new track or bounce/render the sound before it goes onto your electribe.
Playing stuff back at the wrong pitch is also a great way of getting this sort of vibe, particularly stuff like tambourines. A tambourine 2 octaves down is a sound you've probably heard a hundred times but it's not immediately obvious what the source is.

One of the most important and best scores of all time was based on this principle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnpYowxlwsU


For more general NINny Puppy sounds, you'll be after sounds from the older sample based drum machines, search for the Vintage Drum Machine archive, it's been floating around forever, is just over a Gb in size and has every drum machine you could ever want in there, as well as a bunch of other sounds from synths and samplers to use.
The Arturia EMU and Fairlight are excellent if you have V Collection, not just for the sounds but the instant fuckup the sound engines can impart on your own- I think a lot of Pretty Hate Machine was an EMU, or similar

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


just having the samples isn’t enough. you also gotta process then. and then just processing them isn’t enough, you gotta know what DSP to apply. and knowing what DSP to apply isn’t enough, you gotta know how to use the sound you get

which is to say: don’t worry about doing that right, either. it’s all luck. go nuts making insane bullshit industrial sounding samples because it does not matter

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Yeah, been messing around with some DR 550 samples, got a really nice early sample drum machine sound to them. Not as tricky as I expected getting them suitably processed, though I imagine I'll be tinkering around with it quite a bit over time.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug

Pollyanna posted:

You know what I wanna do? I want to make an album that is centered entirely around sounds, ideas, loops, progressions, rhythms, patches, and other unique garbage from people more successful than me. Chopped up poo poo I like and obvious Xerox copies of real, better songs and tracks. Minimal adjustment just to sound good to my ears. Bitch, imma steal. I’m sick of trying to be unique and pure and independently valuable and have a justified existence. Anyone who says they are is a loving liar.

I ain’t gonna sell it or let anyone make money off of it, so don’t loving sue me you RIAA-bootlicking pricks. Not like anyone’s listening anyway. Timbaland can suck my teeny weeny peeny gently caress u.

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Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


ye

killhamster
Apr 15, 2004

SCAMMER
Hero Member

NonzeroCircle posted:

Bitcrusher plugins are your friend here. Reduce the sample rate on the plugin to 12 and either record that to a new track or bounce/render the sound before it goes onto your electribe.
Playing stuff back at the wrong pitch is also a great way of getting this sort of vibe, particularly stuff like tambourines. A tambourine 2 octaves down is a sound you've probably heard a hundred times but it's not immediately obvious what the source is.

all this but also research which gear you're trying to emulate and its limitations, and also fiddle with the sample rate. e.g. 8 bit 27kHz for an e-mu emulator, or 12 bit 40kHz for typical MPC60 type sounds.

this is a decent enough rundown of the basics

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Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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baaaaaack in the day i was running cubase 3.5 on a pentium 133, and i had to run 32khz sample rate for four mono tracks to play skip-less. god how far we've come

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