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InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Thinking it's time I get back on the horse and start making some jams again. Been having a real rough time finding the motivation, had like $4k of gear stolen about 6 months back and it's been a motherfucker getting back in the mood to make things. Have to figure out a decent software synth solution too as a result.

I'm on linux now, grabbed the pro audio package set from the AUR but haven't messed with getting it all configured yet. Expecting a pain in the rear end, but I'm sure I can work through it. Have an actual audio interface so that should make things at least somewhat easier.

My main issue with the software workflow though, is programming drums. Is there a decent VST that will allow me to program drum patterns with an 808/909 style interface? That's like the only way to program drum tracks that ever clicked with me. One of these days down the line I'll buy another Yamaha RM1x, the single greatest MIDI controller I have ever used, and a cheap 808 clone to write in drum patterns, but for now software is the way to go I think.

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InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad

Pollyanna posted:

what is it about the 808/909 that works so well for you in writing patterns? it seems to just be a typical 16-step sequencer, im sure thereís sequencer vsts out there

or are you referring to editing and automating the patches?

Oh I mostly meant the 16 step (ideally with 32nd note support) sequencer, where I can have it playing back and make changes and hear them in real time. Plus an intuitive way to chain patterns to build up a track. I find that iterative approach works really well with how I write.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Finally took the time to figure out why the hell JACK wasn't picking up my MIDI controller. Of all things, the goddamn cord was the culprit. Now I can start noodling again, got a whole bunch of unfamiliar instruments to mess with and a new DAW, should be fun.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Yeah, when white guys pick up cheap instruments that no one else is really using at the time you end up with Korn and uhhhhhhhh

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Oh man, teenage engineering has a modular thing now? I'm definitely tempted, though I do think their stuff is a bit on the overpriced side.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Decided it's about time I start rebuilding my setup. Got a Virus C and an Electribe sampler on the way, waiting on a power supply for this TR-8 and seeing if I can get this TB-03 off my buddy who's downsizing, should be a pretty versatile kit all things considered. Gotta figure out how I'm going to handle sequencing it all and get all the cables routed, but looking forward to getting back in the mix on this poo poo.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
https://soundcloud.com/kohlbern-jary/brap1025-a303ineveryhome

Finally got the right goddamn 3.5mm to 5 pin MIDI adapters for the Electribe so I threw a couple patterns in and tweaked away at the knobs on the 03 for a bit. Drums are pretty simplistic because I ran into issues actually triggering my drum machine with polyphony from the Electribe, should be able to spice it up once I get some samples loaded in here.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Trying to take the step from doing 4-bar loops I dig to structuring whole songs, does anyone have any good resources on like, how to come up with that structure? Like, I can build up say a chorus part pretty well at this point, but then when it comes time to transition I'm not really sure what to do to make something that feels cohesive with the previous part but changes the energy. I realize the answer is probably just "actively listen to music you like more", but if there's some guidelines I can use it would definitely help for me.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Yeah, that's definitely going to be some stuff I try to integrate. Adding some automation, working with longer patterns and adding fills and stuff. Going for like an early NIN/Skinny Puppy kind of thing too so building up a good library of samples will let me add some color to things. Is there a good way to downsample wav files in the way early digital samplers did? I know that's really important to get that low fidelity crunch on things, electribe wants it's samples in 16 or 24 bit though so I'll have to fake it.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Yeah, been messing around with some DR 550 samples, got a really nice early sample drum machine sound to them. Not as tricky as I expected getting them suitably processed, though I imagine I'll be tinkering around with it quite a bit over time.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Could be fun to lean into it, make the most video gamey track you can to show yourself what "too videogamey" actually sounds like to you

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Thinking on downsampling more, if reducing the sample rate and bit depth to match old sampler hardware is the goal, isn't that something I could just batch job with something like ffmpeg? As opposed to loading up a whole vst and rendering and all that jazz?

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Yeah, but I'm trying to bake it into my samples so I can have it ready to rock in the hardware sampler whenever. I'll probably just figure out a workflow and set up templates to make the job quicker and just bang through them gradually when I've got a moment here and there. Wonder if there would be a market niche for a hardware sampler that can model different old sampler parameters on the fly, seems pretty feasible.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Took me a bit to get used to the UI, but I like Reaper now. Cheap, the same across OS's, and gets to the point. Just wish the VST ui display was more cleanly integrated with the main DAW view but it's very possible I just haven't found the option for that.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Pretty much got all the kit for my little brother's christmas gift together here, he loved playing with my Volca Keys before that got jacked so I'm hooking him up with the Keys, Drum, a Keystep and Midi Thru box to control it, and a nice little stand to tie it all together. Think I can nab an old rackmount Kawai mixer off my buddy to get the sound routed and have some effects loops he can hook his guitar pedals in with, but I'm a bit stumped on what to do for a speaker solution. The built in speakers on those units are pretty garbo so I'd like to get him something a bit nicer to hear it all through, but full on studio monitors might be a bit overkill. Any recommendations on like a decent portable speaker or similar for the job?

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Might need to lower the action if the electric feels harder to fret, electrics generally have a much lower action which makes them a lot easier to play in my experience.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Keys dexterity is starting to come back. It's funny, all the drum parts I come up with are driving IBM type things, then as soon as I start messing with melodies it's all depressing ballad type lines. Eh, I'll make it work.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad

4lokos basilisk posted:

i'm sorry, is IBM a genre of music?

this is very nice relaxing listening though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCiUtRnG-bg
Oh I'm dumb, EBM lol. Long week.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Honestly, kinda same, makes more sense than unison being interval 1

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad


Pyramid is dope as hell, lets me shunt the Electribe/TR-8 onto it's own midi output to free up a shitload of midi channels. Also makes like 3 of the midi merge/thru boxes I ordered obsolete but hey, I'll take it to not have a goddamn mountain of cables running. Think I can merge the midi out from my Beatstep into the Pyramid for drum sequencing too, will have to gently caress around with it and see what I can come up with.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Iím the vape and also the devil may cry poster

drat that's an impressive clock. Just showed up in my apartment one day like 8 years ago and it's been moving with me ever since. Oh wait I see the URL now lmao

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Oh poo poo, stepdad hooked me up with a modular starter setup, RIP my disposable income for the forseeable future

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
https://soundcloud.com/kohlbern-jary/brap1216-crawl3

Man this is fun. And actually going somewhere for once I think.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
https://soundcloud.com/kohlbern-jary/brap1221-inwater

Played around with chopping up some samples, need to do the rest of the speech still but gently caress that thing's long and there's a ton of material I might want to use lol.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
I think it's because it's exponential with 4/4 time, I've noticed if I do 3/4 I tend to think in 3 or 6 bar phrases for instance. But yeah, at the end of the day it's just what sounds good really.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Got my gear all set up again at the new place, gonna have to start jamming some more and see what I can come up with

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
https://soundcloud.com/kohlbern-jary/brap230106-longing

Little something I've spent the past couple nights tinkering with.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Still a little miffed my boy the Yamaha RM1x ended up on there. loving amazing sequencer in that bad boy, especially for how cheap they used to be. These days, you can get a Squarp Pyramid for just a little more and holy hell that thing is absolutely perfect for my setup.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Been critically listening to some albums I like and kinda want to make music similar to, wow holy poo poo I am overthinking my parts. Drums especially you can get away with repeating the same pattern for way longer than I was thinking.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
Got the 7 string set back up, man this thing is a ton of fun with some pedals and such to run it through.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad

echinopsis posted:

put new strings on bass for my 13yo and got a very cheap headphone amp thing

for now it'll do but it's kinda poo poo.

but the new strings are nice, and I got him to do a GCDC progression while i played chords on synth and that was pretty cool

I'm not exactly an aficionado of bass tone, but I've been decently pleased with the result of hooking up this 5 string to this Joyo Mesa Boogie clone pedal:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085PVGT6C

Gotta dial in the EQ just right but it works alright for my practice needs. Got it running into my mixer so I can just adjust the gain/volume there for monitoring.

InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
I'd settle for a whole rear end song, still getting the hang of this composition thing. Get too distracted noodling around half the time I sit down to work on music haha.

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InternetOfTwinks
Apr 2, 2011

Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just bad
After getting a little time to sit down with the 1010music Blackbox and gently caress around with it: holy poo poo this is suuuuuch a better interface for setting up samples. Think tomorrow I'm going to sit down and figure out how to set up the Electribe to run samples from the Blackbox out to it, run them through the Electribe's FX and resample what I get. Should be able to get some pretty gnarly drum sounds that way.

EDIT: Wait it has automatic multisample recording of instruments through generating it's own midi/cv? Hooooly poo poo this thing is dope

InternetOfTwinks fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Jan 24, 2023

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