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KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



lobby to change thread title to "polyphonic teledildonic aftertouch"

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KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



here's something i've been working on. i hosed up the third verse while streaming but thats ok, i can fix it in editing
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/585570136

my goal is to get the midi data recorded and then start finding the actual synths I want. I'm not thrilled with the lead synth, it's just a stand-in, but I do know the key and melody that I want at it's core so I figure I get that down and then start swapping in software synths and changing settings until I find something permanent

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



echinopsis posted:

what is polyphonic after touch? is it just when the synth registers after touch individually for each key pressed?

my
bass station 2 has after touch itís pretty neat
its when you can change the velocity of your polyphonic teledildonic array after the initial key input, op. the launchpad pro has it, as well as a bunch of different synths. a lot of synths only had channel aftertouch for a long time, in fact i think poly after is still hard to find.

i recently came across this channel and it's good. seems to be a step up from 8bit guy/8bit keys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNaMv9CAuPg

KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Apr 25, 2020

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Jonny 290 posted:

id rather have four little 2 octave controllers with pads and knobs than some big fuckoff 88 key that i wouldnt be able to Play play anyways
yea and one with a bunch of midi mappable knobs and sliders too

You really only need like 16 pads if you want a drum interface. Not 64 like the one I got, but I'll use that for other stuff rather than drums

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



8bit keys dropped a new one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICX6hK3Se6k

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Achmed Jones posted:

the Soundtoys effect rack is on sale for $100, the bundle is $200. any of y'all have thoughts on if the bundle (or the rack, I guess) is worth it? I know echo boy and decapitator are well thought of

can you post a link?

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Wow, interesting. Yea I mean for $100 the rack seemed interesting. I have fl studio producer which comes with a bunch of poo poo so it's always hard for me to tell if I have a plug-in for an effect or if it's worse or better than the other one.

But at first glance, $100 for the rack seems low risk and intriguingly useful.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



echinopsis posted:

I saw ďloomĒ is like$15 and I have no additive synths so maybe Iíll take the dive. feels like I should have at least one of every kind of synth vst
i got curious and found loom 2 and loom classic, classic looks/sounds pretty great but i see it for $39


however, their other vst, Vacuum Pro is $15 right now... ?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnOHReDVHis
https://www.airmusictech.com/product/vacuum-pro

Their organ synth sounds pretty rad too but its too expensive
https://www.airmusictech.com/product/db-33

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



that's a good find 290, a buddy had one of those and it was heavy. Lol at least you have a soldering iron. I just had to make a couple cord pruchases cuz old cords somehow had a short in it, but it was 3.5mm headphone for my ekit drumset. I have hordes of 1/4 cables now tho, same with picks. Picks everywhere


Achmed Jones posted:

man jonny I have a fender 30 watt from college and that fucker's way too loud for apartment use at any but the lowest volumes. I'm jelly of your house+100w setup

:same:

ok I bought vacuum pro, will check in later after I use it

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Penisface posted:

don't be an incredible dumbass and pay for anything when you have obviously not checked out some available stuff that is free https://www.kvraudio.com/plugins/windows/instruments/free/newest
this is where i got my pg-8x!

i dont think its bad to occasionally pay for stuff. with that said....

so i been messing around with the vacumn pro synth annnnd its p great - defintely a good way to spend my $15. I'll get alot more time out of this than a 6 pack of IPAs. But ill get both, why not. make sure to experiment with the presets by flipping the voices to 4 or 6 from mono


Achmed Jones posted:

now I just put my guitar into my audio interface into guitar rig and other dumb poo poo in ableton, we basically only use the amp when little jones asks to
i still use pedals becuase I didn't find the right vst distortions and i also thought they just didnt sound good. but that was 5+ years ago and i should probably revisit it becuase my CPU seems to be able to handle this stuff pretty easily. My buddy has an axe-effect that he loving loves so ive been somehwat aware of that and keep an eye out for prices

my normal guitar rig is a clean splitter into a metal distortion targeting the highs and a big muff pi targeting the lows, i then run those into a mixer and combine them to one channel. along this chain is a wah and a roland gt-8 multi effect. It sounds great, really textured, and I can hit metal-y highs and artifical harmonics and transition into crunchy lows by just playing along the fretboard. its beefy tho, the mixer is liteally mounted to the pedal board. i should replace the 10 channel one with a smaller one lol

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



ohhh, yea I'm way past that, I assumed we all were but that was presumptuous of me. Echi if you're new you should definitely mine the gently caress out of that kvr site for free plugins, they are really useful. I just used it to try a couple organ plugins (of which most had broken download links or just didn't work inside the vst host.... But that's nbd cuz it's worth the time to find the ones that do work for free)

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



i made a thing and recorded myself making it to upload. this way i can share my settings and also share my sound. im tryin to get an organ sound that will be my goto organ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tyXXQGnXQI
theres a plugin thats not rendering properly on the screen capture, but here's the screenshot of the basic settings. its just a fuzz box, its a free one too, fuzzpluss3



inspired by the sounds on this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG7zEC74iHE

what i found is that its got to be well placed flange and some distortion to beef it up, and then some eqs to balance it out, and compression. still a wip but im ready to roll with it for some other stuff

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Jonny 290 posted:

the original has some sort of octaver on it or at least some really tweaked in distortion. i say try to change that fuzz to more of a midrangey overdrive type thing
an octaver does give it a nice little bump http://christopherhooker.com/plug-ins.htm

i refuse to loose the fuzz tho

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



lol oh no

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



cross postin from the pics thread...

the top 3 things to get if you've never played guitar before are

1) the chord wheel book
2) guitar chods encyclopedia (the short fat spiral bound one)
3) guitar pro (tab software) and use ultmate-guitar dot com to get tabs from https://www.guitar-pro.com/en/index.php




Along with constantly learning, practicing, and doing exercises using scales and rudiments or whatever, and learning your fretboard, use the above to learn songs that you like and then do a little analysis of how they are connecting together

This also helped me alot to get my speed up - Shred is Not Dead
the dvd is super helpful, make sure to get the one with the dvd
https://www.guitarcenter.com/Alfred/Shred-Is-Not-Dead-Guitar-Book-and-DVD-1273887985496.gc



Vintersorg posted:

I missed guitar chat but hereís mine!! only been seriously playing for a year now but itís tons of fun

Jackson dinky js22 with boss katana 100, pickups are Seymour Duncan Nazguls for extra highs

actives are cool tho - almost got emg 81/85s but didnít wanna hassle with batteries as I tend to leave it plugged in


i posted my jackson and ibanez a while back and i gotta say, i really like the jackson more because its fretboard doesn't feel as wide or thick, by like a couple millimetres probably but i notice . I notice that i can play a lot faster and more accurately on the jackson and the ibanez - on the ibanez the pit of my thumb seems to be hitting the low E side of the fret board a lot. So, seeing this guitar, with its jackson-ness and floyd rose reminded me its been 15+ years since i bought a new loving guitar and i should maybe do something about that.

but i did just get the electronic drumkit, and the existing guitars serve me well so... i guess i wont rush it but its definitely back on the radar

KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 00:57 on May 6, 2020

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Jonny 290 posted:

lol gently caress



it's SO LOUD

lol all the alcohol is going to rumble right off

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



echinopsis posted:

I’ve been playing since I was 14 and was in church bands for years so chords were a huge mainstay, although we did gently caress all interesting chords, and the trend at the time was to play heaps of chords as open as possible, if that meant it was a sus2 or sus4 so be it, make as many open strings ring as much as possible so the chord progression sounds somewhat “nice” but also difficult to discern
that guy from that other vid I posted a couple days ago has a good take on open chords and when not to use them, they can tend to make things bland if used at the wrong times, even tho they satisfy the harmonic key

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEWQNKbXHQk

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



nice, yea it does do that but I think it still says something worthwhile before dunking on some nerds. the takeaway I got is figure out if you are going up, down or staying the same tonally from an objective hz perspective -thats the basic thematic core of your chord progression, kind of like telling a story, and it relates to the actual objective hz of the tones your hitting: up, down, or stay the same. And the takeaway is, don't muddle that up by using chords that are technically in the key, but have frequencies that are too high or too low or grouped poorly. Instead look for the version of that chord that works within the frequencies that work with the chords surrounding it on the progression. So, like an
E/C chord rather than just a C open or barred chord

KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 05:06 on May 6, 2020

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Jonny 290 posted:


you want between 1-2 business cards of room generally

Ohh this is a neat tip. The Dave's guitar guy has specific feeler gauges and a ruler which I thought maybe I'll get some day, or just find a local professional guitar tech. But this is useful for in the interim

Echi it sounds like you may need another trem spring in the back, which make sense if you also went to heavier strings

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Post a pic of the bridge from the front and the spring chamber

If I had to guess, I would say you probably have your spring screws cranked all the way down into the wood or something. Did you only have two springs back there?

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Trashman posted:

I’m thinking bout getting an electronic drum kit so I can learn to play the drums while stuck in lockdown, good idea / bad idea? I know nothing about music theory I just think it would be fun and I like to drum on things all the time anyway...

I did it like 4 weeks ago, during lockdown, and it's great!! I got the alesis Nitro mesh kit for like $370 + tax and a book called "a funky primer" - deffo recommend. For the price the set is fantastic and will probably give me enough play for years. It's got midi out and crap too and the hi hat and kick drum feels good

I think I'm going to get a swing pattern book next

Do it!

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Trashman posted:

I was looking at the Alesis Nitro Mesh or Roland TD-1k (cause it looks more compact to store) but maybe the mesh pads are worth it...

thanks for the feedback and encouragement :) I think the music stores are open again here so might be a good weekend activity to see what I can try out
No prob, happy to share

I was a drummer in high school concert and marching band, and then went guitar, but my point is that I have some experience with knowing what real kits feel like and stuff and the Nitro mesh specifically surprisingly good feeling. I also did some researching before hand and it regularly shows up at the top of the list, being compared to much more expensive Roland kits and stuff. The stick bounce feels pretty natural and stuff, it also lets you get your muscle memory built up and just feels good cuz it feels like a real set as opposed to a pad, which I also looked at.

Using my feet and crossing my arms and swinging around was essential to me.

But, if you have the money and stuff, maybe go for the Roland or Yamaha $700+ range or $1200 if it's a thing you are sure about

https://www.electronicdrumadvisor.com/best-electronic-drum-set/

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KLQqcYMVuo
after watching this vid im really rethinking if i should have just gotten a double bass kit to start with

one of the reviews said the kick can support double base if u just set it up and angle it right

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Bruh does it have trash and specteon???

I just booted up my 15 year old desktop to snag the pirated copy and keygen of trash.


It's from 06 lol

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



it includes trash 2 whcih i was looking at just last week. spectron was discontinuted, but nectar and some of the other elements suite plugins seem to cover it?

im gonna get it just for trash 2, ill report back later

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



What does logic pro offer over the other one? Do you just need a daw? Cuz it sounds like u need the kontrol plus whatever you wanna hitch your daw wagon to

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



sounds like you need all 3 bruther :cheers:

but id go with whatever makes hooking up/recording/experimenting with guitar poo poo the ez-est pz-est it can be right now. minimize that barrier of entry for yourself and see how long you go before u need to re-up on something else. getting decent midi drum tracks to play along with is easy

e: critical update - logic pro is apple only eh? i committed to fl studio a couple years ago, and am a windows person. i might migrate to ableton live eventually, but fl studio is kind of like a frontier of programming and competeing with ableton live performance mode stuff so i want to see how far i can make it go.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



See now that's verrrrrry interrrrresting to me. Before the ekit purchase, I wanted to make my own kick drum out of a spare acoustic kit kick and some sort of trigger, but I couldn't find any simple midi triggers with velocity. I stopped short of making my own, but a board like that and knowing how to use it both being in my possession will probably be beneficial later. I think you can even make a trigger using cheap pizzo microphones

KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 22:29 on May 14, 2020

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Finally, after a couple hours of loving around, got custom colors on the launchpad working. Love operating in this realm of low documentation, it merges so many of my interests!


I also hosed around realmhard with OBS studio and got it so I can do Google Hangouts while streaming cam video and my daw screencasted. Gonna make a video of what the hell I'm using the launchpad and it's custom pads for this weekend with it all.. gonna combine some music theory and midi programming

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



i took a project as far as i think i can take it creatively for now, so i decided to polish it up and make it a bit production ready, render it down to mp3, before i put it on the shelf
https://soundcloud.com/macro_bulk/pg-8-x86_a_02

something seemed off about the mix at first when i pressed it to mp3, but i bumped the bitrate from 192 to 320 and it sounds waaay better, nearly the same as when i hit play in my daw. when i make fl studio play the project live it sounds fuller. its like the sounds are cutting each other out, like an auto mix is going on or something.

here's the stats in case anyone wants to play along
code:
Tempo
107 bpm

Song Key:
F Blues
F Minor
Ab/G# Major
if you got any question about rig, instruments, effects, or process or whatever, please, ask away :cheers:

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Ruffian Price posted:

there's a sale underway on a whole bunch of scaler plugins https://www.waproduction.com/bundles/view/ultimate-midi-bundle
uh... hmmmmmmm. At first i thought fl studio had this built in with the channel arppegiator, but after looking closer it seems to do a lot more. these pugins also kind of hit me with a momentary feeling of "thats cheating" - but really, they aren't because you have to know the music theory behind it - this just lets you accelrate being able to play complicated stuff if your hands cant keep up. Like for me, I'm much further ahead on theory than I am actually playing on the keyboard. This screenshot also jumped out to me, lets you be specific about how to arp, rather than just up or down. soooo, for $15, i'm leaning towards getting it. thanks for the tip


i really really wish the air db88 went on sale, the clips they have of it sound just like what I want. the free vst organ I got is ok but it seems like it keeps clipping or hitting 0 points when i hold a chord which is a bummer

e: Oh poo poo, thankfully i googled tonewheel organ becuase I got this kvr hit which seems to be new for covid19 quaranatine! https://www.kvraudio.com/product/collab3---free-tonewheel-organ-by-sampleson

KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 19:56 on May 17, 2020

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



I started reading around to check out insta-chord, scale and midiq, which lead me to scaler (and the upcoming scaler 2) and it seems like they have a big overlap, and now I dont know which one to get. gah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGVrscdVZm0

if you buy scaler 1 right now, you get a free upgrade to scaler 2. and its only $50. so... im really torn on which to get now, the insta-/midiq bundle for $20 or scaler for $50 and then scale2 after as a free upgrade

KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 15:14 on May 18, 2020

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Penguissimo posted:

good poo poo

any chance you'd be able to toss up a lossless version anywhere? I might play around with adding some sax to this over the weekend
sure thing
https://soundcloud.com/macro_bulk/pg-8-x86-a-02-losslesswave
i left this with the extra long tail, figured having extra minutes could be helpful. if not you can just cut it, but it leaves the option to you. I think i did it right, you should be able to download the wav from that soundcloud link

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Achmed Jones posted:

I tried instascale and it wasn't what i was looking for. Its interface was really weird - keys you could play your root or descend/ascend the scale depending on how far the key was from the root (which was in the middle). ill give the scaler trial a shot, though!
please, keep me posted! im really curious about both and we have until the 26th to get scaler 1 and a free scaler 2 upgrade which comes out on the 27th. I'm not sure ill get to try both in time so im very eager to hear what anyone has to say comparing both

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



you know all the music theory that you gotta keep track of? This app seems to help automate some of that memorization part and lets you just focus on what sounds good with regards to harmony, melody, and diatonic balh blah blah.


It's as if you have a session player sitting in with you can you can say "oh, can you give me something sort of... jazzy in the key of, uhhh... B major, focusing on the first the 6th and the 7th chords" and then it does that and randomizes it OR plays it according to certain patterns (that may represent your own playing, like arpeggios but personalized) and stuff.

KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 01:08 on May 19, 2020

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tbFgWrDk9E
ok so, after watching this i think im taken midiq off the list. It looks like a baby's toy - using shapes instead of telling me like the actual music theory? scaler seems to offer the same and better functionality with a better interface if you care about learning what you're actually doing and wanna self analyze

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



CMYK BLYAT! posted:

learning and thinking about harmonic relations is half the fun though
Absolutely. I don't see this as a replacement for that, but I do see it as a possible helpful tool to accelerate your understanding of what options you have.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Achmed Jones posted:

so i guess im writing a plugin to do what i want with respect to scales lmao

i had to install xcode :mad:
probably for the best. sclaer nor WA did what you wanted?

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



hey here's a dumb question that is so dumb and obvious i feel like im missing something

I want to arpeggiate with my keyboard and manipulate the arp pattern live. FL studio lets you do this to a degree, but I want the added ability to pick which notes to play. For example:

If I am holding down the tonic, I want to arpeggiate a major triad from that tonic, then maybe, i want to move up to a maj7 arp staying on the tonic, but only use the 1st, 3rd and 7th and omit the 5th from the pattern in order to keep it a 3 note pattern. FL studio doesn't allow me this level of customability in their channel arp - you can switch the chord you are arpeggiating but not how many notes in it.

Is there a plugin out there that does this? I found this thing called blue arp and it got almost close, but I can't switch the pattern using a midi controller and that's a non-starter for what I'm looking for.


e: ugh, im an idiot and just figured it out. Rather than holding down 1 key and telling it to arp off of that, I can hold down any amount of keys to make my own chord and it will arp those. Cool.

KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 01:38 on May 22, 2020

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KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Penisface posted:



hope you find this motivating :)
same, except I learned my lesson on making a 3d fps and game engine

Youth, hubris and ego

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