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Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





I've been messing around with ableton and friends lately. I have a pocket operator (PO-32) and it's great for making little loops (and Little Jones loves it).

I just ordered an audio interface, so I'll be able to record soft synths and my PO and other stuff into ableton. i really like animoog and basically it makes me not ever really care about getting a real synth. maybe one day I'll want a midi controller but not today

I also dug my electric guitar out of the closet and have been having a great time re-learning it. im looking forward to what kind of weird poo poo I can do by running it into ableton

post about music you make, even if you suck at it like i do

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Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





i couldn't make a melody in ableton just clickin' around to save my life, but animoog for real made me able to make them. they're still bad of course, but being able to say "now you're a pentatonic keyboard, it is impossible for me to play a bad note" and then mashing away whatever pops into my head has worked pretty well. maybe base station lets you do that, though?

i don't really recommend any of the expansions i've bought, but it's so worth $5. I think the ipad version is way more expensive, though, and i'm not sure if it has an android version. what i'm saying, though, is that i also have no talent but certain tools make it way easier. i'll never be great, but if we keep trying and practicing we can both be generally competent :unsmith:


Thanks for that link, Crazy Achmed! I'm gonna watch that today i think 'cause I feel like crap and am probably gonna call in sick to work. are keytars generally midi controllers, or are they keyboards all on their own with amazing form factors?

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





my audio interface came today and i made beeps and boops go from animoog into the computer. i hope to be able to have leads and pads/bass/etc all in the same track now

this track is gonna end up costing me more money than is reasonable

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





i have a new raspberry pi that does almost nothing an old raspberry pi that does literally nothing, sonic pi looks dope a f

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





i plugged my guitar into the audio interface and did weird things to it through ableton at lunch

ableton's amp/cab modeling is terrible, but the weird effects are awesome. i was hoping that i'd be able to put my fender champion 30 dsp back in the closet, but it's generally better at getting crunch than anything i was able to do in ableton

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





That's dope as hell. Is all of that coming from the rack? I have no idea how modulars work - it surprised me to hear "normal synth" and drums coming from it

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





thanks for those links!

I watched those dean friedman videos and they were great. i didn't know what timbre was before (or how to pronounce it) and now i feel like I understand what's going on with all the settings I play with. I'm gonna download vcv rack today. ngl though I stopped halfway through the third video cause it seemed to be about how to do things on some then-current synths rather than new concepts about synthesis

toiletbrush I would absolutely enjoy an effortpost on wtf-modular, but if it's easier to point me at an article or video somewhere that's 💯 too

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





mine is a scarlett 8i6

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





how do you play a modular? like I get how you hook a bunch of stuff up, but how do you make a melody? are there sequencer modules and sampler modules? and then you can choose to route a pot or keyboard or whatever into your oscillators frequency input for unsequenced stuff?

is the idea that you can basically make a custom synth at home, but you have to buy everything you want separately? like a sort of middle ground between buying a synth kit and buying something off the shelf?

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





cool a f

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





holy poo poo I just looked up the metropolis and it's $585. I was expecting like $200 or maybe $250. it's cool but drat

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





I was gonna post about how I don't know what sidechaining is or how to do it but then I googled it and this time I found actual reasonably written text documents that explained everything. so ive got that going for me

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





nice!

does Live ever go on sale? the options seem to be insanely expensive (bc it seems kind of pointless to not get all the VSTs and stuff), educational (I'm not in the academy any more though) and piracy. Like, I want to throw a couple hundy their way and have a legit full copy, is that possible at all?

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





pirating stuff sucks though. like they'll just be missing convolution reverb or whatever and you'll end up having to gently caress with VMs or WINE because oh look your pirated version of osx software has a keygen that needs windows. and then you can't update. and then you have to worry about malware. pirating software is just a massive pain in the rear end that im all about avoiding if I can. but for $700 or whatever yeah, I guess qpiracy is probably worth my time

id much rather avoid messing with cracks and all that. heavily-discounted legitimate(-ish) serials though? now that's my jam

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





oh word thanks I'll check out bitwig too

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





i have a soundcloud but it's empty

im working on it though!

also the Model D moog app is free. go get it, it's rad

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





I just finished my first song. It is very not good! I learned a lot about using Ableton, though.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





I've been playing with the freakshow industries plugins and I thought they were dumb until I put my drums through backmask and then my bass arp through dumpster fire and then the lead through mishby

What I'm saying is it's really fun to make poo poo get weird. I wonder if they use these on the American Horror Story intro

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





is that a dog underneath a desk

or what one might call

..

a subwoofer?

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





any of y'all have recs for plugins I can send my guitar through? I'm more interested in effects than amp/cab modeling but both are cool. I have the free version of guitar rig 5 and it seems neat; I don't want to spend much (definitely under $50 but free would be much better) cause I bought a copy of ableton, so I'm mostly done buying music stuff for a couple months

I'm hoping that ms jones gets me a midi controller for my birthday

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





I upgraded to Live Suite in March. I emailed Ableton last night and woke up to a refund of the difference between what I paid and the current sale price. That's $95, so I'm happy!

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





FWIW, apparently if you buy through European sellers, Live is waaay cheaper: https://www.thomannmusic.com/ableton_live_10_suite.htm

I am not at all sure that licensing and so on would work out. I am also pretty sure it violates some kind of trade laws, because the page I found that mentioned this said that the reason for the price discrepancy was tariffs, but if you want to do the refund dance or someone else wants to give it a try, there it is :shrug:

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





I just ordered a launchkey mini. I am excited to play with it!

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





my problem is that once I'm over $100 or so, I'm in "just save up for a push" territory

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





ableton put up another free sample pack at their covid deals page

also I really wish the forums used markdown instead of bbcode

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





the Soundtoys effect rack is on sale for $100, the bundle is $200. any of y'all have thoughts on if the bundle (or the rack, I guess) is worth it? I know echo boy and decapitator are well thought of

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





effect rack: https://www.soundtoys.com/product/effect-rack/

bundle: https://www.soundtoys.com/product/soundtoys-5/

another $100 off listed prices above: 100-OFF-RACK-OR-BUNDLE-ENDS-MAY30

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





man jonny I have a fender 30 watt from college and that fucker's way too loud for apartment use at any but the lowest volumes. I'm jelly of your house+100w setup

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





now I just put my guitar into my audio interface into guitar rig and other dumb poo poo in ableton, we basically only use the amp when little jones asks to

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





yeah I saw that NI sale. I'd be all over it but I got a Scarlett 8i6 not too long ago. I wish they were running that deal on basically anything except audio interfaces cause $200 is too much for guitar rig but free-with-a-thing-I-kinda-want-anyway is the perfect incentive

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





KoRMaK posted:

i still use pedals becuase I didn't find the right vst distortions and i also thought they just didnt sound good. but that was 5+ years ago and i should probably revisit it becuase my CPU seems to be able to handle this stuff pretty easily. My buddy has an axe-effect that he loving loves so ive been somehwat aware of that and keep an eye out for prices

my normal guitar rig is a clean splitter into a metal distortion targeting the highs and a big muff pi targeting the lows, i then run those into a mixer and combine them to one channel. along this chain is a wah and a roland gt-8 multi effect. It sounds great, really textured, and I can hit metal-y highs and artifical harmonics and transition into crunchy lows by just playing along the fretboard. its beefy tho, the mixer is liteally mounted to the pedal board. i should replace the 10 channel one with a smaller one lol

NGL id rather have a sick pedalboard and stuff, but I live in a 2BR apartment with my wife and son so it's not really in the cards. I'm not any good at guitar, either, so like maybe in a year if I keep practicing I'll be able to justify the money+space but for now playing with guitar rig is good enough

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





I have a shred guitar and an acoustic. I go back and forth on if I want a jazzmaster or tele. I'll probably end up with both one of these days

shred stuff is absolutely not my style, but it is what a dude in the dorms was selling in 2003 so here we are

I got my son a rondo 1/2 size lefty strata week or so ago. it's supposed to get here today but hasn't shown up yet. if it turns out to be great quality maybe I'll consider a rondo tele, but I don't really enjoy working on guitars so frankly I'd rather just pay an extra hundred or two and not have to level frets and file the nut and all that stuff that the cheaper guitars often require (and I gather is half the point for people that enjoy that sort of thing). of course maybe setting up the boy's guitar will show me that it's actually fun when you aren't fighting with floyd rose 🤷‍♀️

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





i have an esp ltd m-155 (same as m-100 but with offset fretboard markings) and a fender dg-20ce acoustic/electric. no pics right now though

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





I got my kids guitar set up and it wasn't too obnoxious!

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





i bought a guitar in college and learned to play five chords and then stopped. then i picked it up in grad school, but then i stopped.

but this time! this time it will be different! seriously though, the big problem i had before was not knowing what to practice and stuff - eventually noodling would get boring and i'd stop. i've been doing the justin guitar beginner lessons and it's been great.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





I'm doing the justinguitar app and it's great. I wanna say I paid $60 for a year, and of course all the material is free if you don't give a poo poo about having a phone app. the app has exercises and stuff in it (and blocks going to the next step behind actually doing them) so it's great for me, though. I'll have to check out the fender one once I finish it!

I spent like an hour playing on the patio while little Jones alternately danced, sang, ate his lunch, and squirted water toys. it was the best hour I've had in a really long time

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





the guitar stand for little jones's guitar came in today! he has $80 saved in his "bank", so I'm gonna let him spend that on his guitar if he wants to and tell him i'll kick in the other half. he'll probably get it this weekend and i am _so excited_ to play with him.

he'd been having some fun with my fullsize righty guitar, but it was way too big of course. the way you hold a guitar has always seemed backwards to me (why would I want my lovely hand to do the hard work of fretting if i'm not fingerpicking?), but when I had him flip over my guitar and hold it lefty he lit up instantly. so of course he needed one of his own. we'd originally planned on letting him save up for it and play mine until then, but the left/right thing made me think he should get it sooner rather than later.

my midi controller looks to finally be back in stock at sweetwater, so hopfully i'll get that before this weekend. i have a string cutter coming in the same order and would really like to restring my acoustic this weekend, too

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





ooooh I got the $12 foot switch for my amp (cheaper than the parts I looked up) but it can only switch channels - effects are controllled on the amp itself. that's rad dude

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





I'm in this weird position where I don't think that guitar rig 5 is worth $200 but I can't get it for what I think to be a fair price. I already have a good audio interface but if you need one anyway, getting GR5 would be dope. just value it in your head at like $30 or $50, not $200. ofc keep in mind that I'm not good at guitar. maybe it's more obviously worth more if you're better at stuff than I am

come on NI just let me give you $50 I want to do it! I own a legitimate copy of ableton for gods sakes I love paying for legitimate software!

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Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004





got my launchkey mini mk3 yesterday and it's very good. i guess it does a whole bunch of ableton poo poo that i don't care about. but it also lets you use the drum pads as drum pads and the knobs as instrument knobs which is all i want. maybe i'll care about launching clips from the pads later, but not right now

im trying to find a vst (or whatever) to map the white keys to specific scales. i know there's a plugin called Cales that does this, but it's windows-only. any ideas?

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