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Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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Grimey Drawer

AtomD posted:

years back someone posted this vid in the pos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hJBko3-oV4

always thought that might make a nice sample
https://soundcloud.com/atomd/lights-are-on

this sounds good, to me.nice work

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Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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KoRMaK posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tbFgWrDk9E
ok so, after watching this i think im taken midiq off the list. It looks like a baby's toy - using shapes instead of telling me like the actual music theory? scaler seems to offer the same and better functionality with a better interface if you care about learning what you're actually doing and wanna self analyze

speaking of baby toys for music, you ever played with this thing before? i had fun with it, but i never made any music with it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-S5kNLv3xU

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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Grimey Drawer
i thought of another music toy that no one mentioned yet https://hookpad.hooktheory.com/

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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Grimey Drawer

Kazinsal posted:

nutting fucks

took a look at the grey forums guitar thread and saw someone suggested it might be the knife edges, which would suck if it is for me since that's built into the baseplate of the trem and of course music man isn't just gonna sell me a replacement tremolo

wonder if some graphite lube would fix it

have you thought about just blocking the trem, and forgetting about it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oiNMtI37AI

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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KoRMaK posted:

I had a music theory epiphany this weekend that helped things click. i also found a trick to using the gently caress out of this basicmusictheory site that seemed to have too much info but once you scroll throug it you start to get a feel of what they are presenting. Basically the lil trick i learned about their site is that they will give you all the chord spellings and fingerings all together on one page for a given scale, all you gotta do is find it and then scroll through and save the files.



https://www.basicmusictheory.com/a-flat-major-7th-chords#st3

That then let me easily snag the keyboard fingers and stuff, so i combined them into a big collage in gimp, then opened that in a window on the computer and had it up while i practiced each chord, trying to memorize them, and practicing the scale. Just fuckin around with the music theory in practice while watching some TV or whatever. Having all the info in front of me visually at one time i think helped enable it to all click in a specific way: i dont need to memorize the loving chords. just the scale. stop memorizing 8 different chords. I knew there was a pattern underneath, but its hard to quickly see, given any key on the keyboard, what is the note that is 2 whole steps above it. What i found is that there are landmarks along that way that help you develop your music theory mind palance or whatever. My palacio de la mente


If you just memorize the scale, and get it into muscle memory, and basically put a block on touching any key that isnt in the scale - then making the chords you want on the fly is so easy cuz u just follow the formula of 1-3-5. you dont have to keep track of is it 3 half steps or 4 - you just skip over the notes in the scales and land on the ones you want. This makes making diminished and 7th chords way easier. Way more intuitive.


Then it popped for me - I could have been doing this same poo poo to map out the guitar fretboard in a more intuitive way than memorizing the individual 8 chords and variations themselves. Just apply barr chords in the major/minor and that one diminished variations to the 8 notes of the scale along the E string on the fretboard, and then get that in your muscle memory, and then you should have an intuitive map that you could quickly work with and react with while improvising on the fretboard.

i think what you have managed to grasp here is called the Harmonized Major Scale. internalizing this is a crucial step IMO

not just knowing about the harmonized major scale, but also finding a way to practice it on the instrument, like you have here with your chord charts

if you're interested, we recently had a chat about it in the gray forums guitarist thread, starting with this poster's epiphany about this concept (similar to yours here) https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3341553&pagenumber=1039&perpage=40#post504984857

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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KoRMaK posted:

thats was/is precisely what i was doing, and deliberately so. i set out to learn all the chords of the harmonized major of the arbitrary key i picked for myself to get used too. but i was still looking for more optimized ways to internalize the process. probably will forever, but this is a pretty big one on that path.

oh word, well you are on the right path and i wanted to make sure to tell you

you can totally do the same thing on guitar with barre chords, like you said

when i first learned this on guitar, i started out practicing these chords up the scale. like I - ii - iii - IV etc

but if you reverse that and play IV - iii - ii - I, it's a little more gratifying to play. it's the progression from "green hill zone" theme in sonic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7Xw8YAtGpI&t=90s

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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one more thing about the dominant 7th chord:

it has a tritone (aka diminished 5th interval) between the major 3rd and the flat 7th of the chord, which is a dissonant interval. the ear wants to hear that dissonance resolved, and this is what creates the musical "gravity" pulling you from the dominant chord to the tonic chord.

so when people talk about the dominant chord "resolving" to the tonic, what's specifically going on is that dissonant tritone in the dominant chord changing to a consonant major 3rd in the tonic chord

in your example, the Eb dominant 7th chord's major 3rd is G, and the flat-7th is Db. when it resolves to a Ab major 7th chord, the G -> Ab, and the Db -> C,

G to Db is a tritone (spooky)

Ab to C is a major 3rd (ah, much better)

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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KoRMaK posted:

the circle of fiths always kind of confused me becuase as you go clockwise - the natural direction you'd think you would go - it seems to be 4ths


aughhhh dammit (╯□)╯︵ ┻━┻

its called the "circle of fourths" if you go one way, and its the "circle of fifths" if you go the other way. this makes sense, because the perfect fifth inverts to the perfect fourth. you can think of them as the same interval, but from different directions.

e.g., C -> G is a perfect 5th, and G -> C is a perfect 4th.



the tritone exists right between the perfect fifth and perfect fourth, and it inverts to itself. it's the only musical interval that inverts to itself (except maybe the octave / unison)

and check this out: remember the G and Db tritone interval we talked about? from the Eb dominant 7th chord? look at how G an Db are on opposite sides of the circle. you can find the tritone of any note by drawing a line thru the center and onto the other side

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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reminds me of FTL soundtrack

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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toiletbrush posted:

it's just that the modular bit is tall and wide and really conspicuous looking particularly with all the blinkin and cable dangling going on.

i wouldn't worry about it until someone backs a u-haul up to your house

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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well why not posted:

an outsider to techno ... an outsider ....

is this how you thought of yourself when you made this? or your assessment of your work? whats it mean


sonds good op, wheres the rest of your stuff?

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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im not an expert in techno music either, op. whenever i think something is "techno," a voice in my head says "heh. actually, its broadly known as electronica. and this specific song is more correctly described as house music" (or whatever it is)

well why not posted:

it's like this image of a Rhino - the guy who drew it never saw a Rhino, but saw a sketch and had someone explain the basics to him.



what are these called? is there a word for something sketched sight-unseen

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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killhamster posted:

hell yeah I do music also


https://killhamster.bandcamp.com

https://soundcloud.com/killhamster

lately I have tasked myself with remixing nu-metal songs from bootleg stems and its v fun

everything I do is in reason and I never bothered to learn another daw but I own a logic license for some reason

sounds v good, o p

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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KoRMaK posted:

i thoguht i was making two different songs in the same key, but really they felt like they wanted to converge so i worked on that for a while and i think its coming together

https://twitter.com/420YoloBoner/status/1295941750629060608

why is the sound only comign out of the left side??

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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Grimey Drawer

looks cool, sounds cool

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Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

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Kernel Sanders posted:

vox ac15 and g&l start

good picks

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