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the rate of hospitalization and deaths in sweden having slowed down significantly despite all measures suggesting we're very far from any kind of herd immunity has suggested one thing to me: getting herd immunity among the systematically irresponsible goes a long way towards keeping things under control. so don't despair too badly, if indeed you were, jonny.
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i'm pretty sure i'm going to get corona every spring and fall until i die at the ripe old age of 53 i just want to outlive nargle, it's my duty to give her the fullest and longest happy life that i can. that's honestly all i care about any more.
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haveblue posted:I work(ed) in a two bank building, one side of the hall went to the bottom half and one went to the top. I though there were pretty clearly labeled but yeah people would constantly get on the wrong ones and get confused when there was no button for their floor This way you can program it for throughput efficiency. Less instances of one person going to a single floor, as you can have the car that was already bound for there pick them up on the way.
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i'm still lolling at how badly the actual dangers of covid were messaged. there's are still people out there who think it's just like the flu except a little worse or exclusively a respiratory virus that can only cause lung damage meanwhile it turns out that covid can (and does) affect any system that has an abundance of ace2 receptors which, while definitely including the nose, mouth, and lungs, also includes the gi system, kidneys, liver, heart, and vascular system we're in for a rough time as more people get infected
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Jonny 290 posted:i'm pretty sure i'm going to get corona every spring and fall until i die at the ripe old age of 53
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fart simpson posted:well i mean none of the health experts were really saying masks didnt work because they honestly believed they didnt work. they were lying to prevent a run on masks so there were enough for healthcare workers. maybe the government shouldnt constantly ruin its credibility if it wants people to listen
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well, eastern canada at least. can’t really vouch for the chud petrosexual outposts in alberta
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we (Newfoundland) have had one case in the last 40 days and are still opening cautiously lol y’all are hosed
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scottch posted:we (Newfoundland) have had one case in the last 40 days and are still opening cautiously lol y’all are hosed
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Jonny 290 posted:i'm pretty sure i'm going to get corona every spring and fall until i die at the ripe old age of 53 you're going to be ok man.
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Jun 21, 2020 16:17
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jonny is a survivor and a good dude.
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We had an all hands meeting about coming back to work with our manager this past week and upper management also sat in. Upper management was shocked that the majority of us outside of the chuds, refused to go in until late 2020, early 2021. 
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President Beep posted:jonny is a survivor and a good dude.
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President Beep posted:jonny is a survivor and a good dude.
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President Beep posted:jonny is a survivor and a good dude.
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Blinkz0rz posted:i'm still lolling at how badly the actual dangers of covid were messaged. there's are still people out there who think it's just like the flu except a little worse or exclusively a respiratory virus that can only cause lung damage It’s completely loving insane and criminally irresponsible that this is being communicated as 1% die / 99% live when something like 40% of people evince long term consequences. It’s a continuum of life-affecting consequences, not a binary.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:It’s completely loving insane and criminally irresponsible that this is being communicated as 1% die / 99% live when something like 40% of people evince long term consequences. It’s a continuum of life-affecting consequences, not a binary. 40% of people infected have long term after effects?
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:It’s completely loving insane and criminally irresponsible that this is being communicated as 1% die / 99% live when something like 40% of people evince long term consequences. It’s a continuum of life-affecting consequences, not a binary. it’s in rich people’s interests that the rest of the world not think about more than 20 minutes into the future.
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DuckConference posted:40% of people infected have long term after effects? it ages your respiratory and circulatory systems anywhere from 5 to 30 years, yes. before and after on a weightlifting RN 
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Jonny 290 posted:it ages your respiratory and circulatory systems anywhere from 5 to 30 years, yes.
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yeah and that was right after he got back from the hospital iirc, not (necessarily) permanent damage done to him
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DuckConference posted:40% of people infected have long term after effects? That’s the ballpark figure I saw, yeah. http://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/06/09/long-haul-symptoms
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DuckConference posted:40% of people infected have long term after effects? i think it might be 40% of people who have to be put on a ventilator and/or oxygen?
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prefect posted:i think it might be 40% of people who have to be put on a ventilator and/or oxygen? yeah that's the gist I'm getting from a quick googling, but there just aren't solid studies of this yet I think. eg. https://www.yalemedicine.org/stories/covid-19-recovery/ you and the people you love are probably going to be ok. yeah there is a risk that they might not be and we need to do what we can to reduce that, but even still your risk of serious negative outcomes is probably low. even if your loved one is in a nursing home, it seems that they still are still more likely than not to make it through COVID* *the rate of death from CVOID19 for people living in nursing homes from seems to be in the 10-20% range
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my wife has not seen a patient over 70 survive it yet however her patients are vets, so there's some bias there
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:my wife has not seen a patient over 70 survive it yet doctors only see the people who are sick enough to go into the hospital
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:my wife has not seen a patient over 70 survive it yet that's gotta be tough 
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yeah we aren't witnessing the 70+ year olds dying at home
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Sagebrush posted:doctors only see the people who are sick enough to go into the hospital and palliative doctors in particular are not seeing, uh, ideal patients in the first place too but then again these are people who have the american version of socialized healthcare, so fwiw they're more likely to avail themselves of the system
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like when i started riding a motorcycle a relative who works in physical therapy was like "oh my god, no, every motorcyclist i know got in a horrible accident" and it's like hmmmmm do you think you're seeing a representative sample of the population or
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:That’s the ballpark figure I saw, yeah. oh hey, it me i've been having symptoms off and on since april 9th. after the first awful 3 weeks (flu-like symptoms + shortness of breath) they went away for 2 weeks and then came back. now they're off and on and vary. sometimes it's just deep exhaustion. sometimes awful headaches. right now it's some awful reflux and bloating it really loving sucks and i'm not excited to see what my body is doing in 6 months or a year
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:and palliative doctors in particular are not seeing, uh, ideal patients in the first place too is that what your wife does? palliative? super-important and good work, but it seems like it would be psychologically difficult
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prefect posted:is that what your wife does? palliative? super-important and good work, but it seems like it would be psychologically difficult married to an Engineer so psychologically difficult is old hat
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PCjr sidecar posted:married to an Engineer so psychologically difficult is old hat she puts up with me because i do all the cooking lol
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:she puts up with me because i do all the cooking lol brb photoshopping a justin wilson head onto the dancing robot gif
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Sagebrush posted:like when i started riding a motorcycle a relative who works in physical therapy was like "oh my god, no, every motorcyclist i know got in a horrible accident" and it's like hmmmmm do you think you're seeing a representative sample of the population or she is seeing a representative sample, actually
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fart simpson posted:she is seeing a representative sample, actually nah
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:my wife has not seen a patient over 70 survive it yet My grandmother is like 82 and had it no worse than a bad cold, there's deffo lots of variability even at that age. IDK if it's still current but there were some stats from a while ago suggesting that the fatality rate in old people was very close to their existing one year fatality rate, which is still pretty high! distortion park fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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probably hard to judge, but the skew with age continues to be gigantic. in sweden where schools were never closed, and the general advice was to let kids live as normal, the skew remains pretty complete: (deaths per age group) i'd cite the death/survival rates in intensive care by age group, but i don't think those stats compare things in a very useful way, as the number of deaths is significantly higher than the unique intensive care cases (most likely a lot of patients who are immediately judged extremely unlikely to survive ventilation).
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