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PCjr sidecar posted:also ‘eat local’ for produce is a root cellar nine months of the year with a very little effort you can definitely get winter greens and brassicas though which is nice shoeberto posted:ime the midwestern blandness is like a side effect of just living "simple" ie non-adventurous lives. You raise your chicken, you grow your taters, you boil the poo poo outta both of them and serve em up and wash it down with cheap beer. No one travels anywhere and there's no reason for anything more ethnic than a chain pizza place to move into town so it's not like you get exposed to anything different. The differences in palate between people who stayed around home and people who got any exposure to anything else is pretty staggering. Maybe not all small midwestern towns are like that, but that was my life growing up. that’s kind of just an excuse though and romanticizing it. like a refusal to even add a little black pepper or garlic to stuff, which is common, goes beyond “living simply”
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mediaphage posted:that’s kind of just an excuse though and romanticizing it. like a refusal to even add a little black pepper or garlic to stuff, which is common, goes beyond “living simply” Don't get me wrong, I'm not romanticizing it, I think it's dumb. Both my wife and I grew up in similar towns but in different areas and our families have the same sort of weird anxiety about trying anything with unfamiliar flavors, or really just anything with flavor at all. My wife's grandma will literally complain about Prego spaghetti sauce being too spicy. It's a pretty regular frustration whenever we visit them or vice versa.
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sure. a lot of that is just being picky, though, and we accept it because of tradition and some non existent ideal of simplicity. it’s not much different from the online goons who refuse to eat much besides chicken nuggets. i get the frustration though. my parents flat out refused to get chinese because it was “furn trash”, and were even skeptical of o’charley’s for being too foreign
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fart simpson posted:i prefer chicken tendies how many good boy points do you have to save up?
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President Beep posted:how many good boy points do you have to save up? this year the local turkey i got came w/ 100% of the internal organs still intact and i had to clean out the body cavity and ive never done that before, surely that earned me some good boy points
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fart simpson posted:this year the local turkey i got came w/ 100% of the internal organs still intact and i had to clean out the body cavity and ive never done that before, surely that earned me some good boy points yeah but you've probably got one hell of a deficit to overcome
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President Beep posted:yeah but you've probably got one hell of a deficit to overcome 
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mediaphage posted:in that case perhaps i can interest you in a willy waller 2006? oh god, les têtes à claques was like someone's flash animations mid-2000s leaked into the Quebec mainstream. It started from a few online videos people would forward to each other and it quickly bubbled into a whole loving beaten-dead-horse-as-a-business, where they got media deals, DVDs, merch, a TV Show. Think of the wassuuup poo poo from budweiser, but it's boomers just making jokes about these characters nonstop around the holidays and repeating catchphrase after catchphrase after catchphrase regardless of context. This stayed way past its time; the guy even tried to push a movie, and I just looked it up and as of a year ago he was still releasing god drat videos under the same 13+ years old concept. EDIT: this specific video's frenglish is actually mocking all the lovely american "as seen on tv" commercials that get badly translated for cheap runs on quebec tv, and uses a broken mix of the languages for that specific purpose of "scammy US garbage" MononcQc fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Dec 4, 2020 |
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President Beep posted:wtf is this clutch escargot rear end poo poo did y'all miss this because seriously lol
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MononcQc posted:oh god, les têtes à claques was like someone's flash animations mid-2000s leaked into the Quebec mainstream. It started from a few online videos people would forward to each other and it quickly bubbled into a whole loving beaten-dead-horse-as-a-business, where they got media deals, DVDs, merch, a TV Show. Think of the wassuuup poo poo from budweiser, but it's boomers just making jokes about these characters nonstop around the holidays and repeating catchphrase after catchphrase after catchphrase regardless of context. This stayed way past its time; the guy even tried to push a movie, and I just looked it up and as of a year ago he was still releasing god drat videos under the same 13+ years old concept. Takes me back to this poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkrpbCikQ4g At least Steve Oedenkirk knew when the concept was dead and moved on to his cinematic masterpiece,,,, Kung Pow Enter the Fist
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Also western salad is basically just lettuce, and a shitload of cheese. indian food is what you do when you actually make a cultural culinary history out of vegetables and it is delicious. if you arent afraid of pickling things you can make lots varieties of kimchi, or a thai cucumber salad. those are great as a side salad replacement and not just lettuce
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shoeberto posted:At least Steve Oedenkirk knew when the concept was dead and moved on to his cinematic masterpiece,,,, Kung Pow Enter the Fist
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shoeberto posted:Takes me back to this poo poo did he though? 
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MononcQc posted:cajuns are technically the remnants of white french canadians from acadia who were deported by the british in an attempt to suppress the non-Englishness out of em all they were deported because there was a big war happening with the french and indians at the time and the acadians occupied land the english wanted and kept provisioning their enemies Kenny Logins posted:episode 277 of the dollop podcast (“the acadians”) was surprisingly good on the subject that 'sode of the dollop tries really hard to make it sound like a genocide, but you may be surprised to learn that a comedy podcast isn't that well-researched
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:did he though? taking the weekend to rationalize this, will check back in Monday thanks
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:they were deported because there was a big war happening with the french and indians at the time and the acadians occupied land the english wanted and kept provisioning their enemies “occupied land the English wanted” is a peculiar way to describe colonialism
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what’s your take on the Armenian genocide and how Armenians were to blame for pissing off the ottomans during a war there ?
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MononcQc posted:“occupied land the English wanted” is a peculiar way to describe colonialism That's the definition of colonialism?
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MononcQc posted:“occupied land the English wanted” is a peculiar way to describe colonialism are you trying to say the french weren't trying to colonize their way westward?
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:they were deported because there was a big war happening with the french and indians at the time and the acadians occupied land the english wanted and kept provisioning their enemies
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MononcQc posted:“occupied land the English wanted” is a peculiar way to describe colonialism what, you mean the colonial war i mentioned? big lovely one, lotsa people killed, mostly french?
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Methanar posted:are you trying to say the french weren't trying to colonize their way westward? they definitely were, though their approach was historically a bit more collaborative with the aboriginal populations than the English in North America, it was clearly not anything other than colonisation as well. I wouldn’t be the kind of person to otherwise say that adding an extra layer of colonisation is defensible even if the first one wasn’t a good thing either.
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my general understanding of european colonialism in lower canada/the great lakes/the northwest territory wrt interactions with the indigenous people is that the french sucked, the british sucked worse, and the americans sucked the most. e: or is it upper canada? idk. idk!!
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President Beep posted:my general understanding of european colonialism in lower canada/the great lakes/the northwest territory wrt interactions with the indigenous people is that the french sucked, the british sucked worse, and the americans sucked the most. the acadians got along fairly well* with the indigenous folks in the area at the time, which only solidified the case that they were the Dreaded Neutrals to be nipped in the bud as soon as practicable *to the point of intermarrying, at least
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Yeah the French generally got along better (which is not to say "well") with the aboriginal populations. Intermarrying was common and the clergy was hella pissed about colons going in and "turning savage" by adopting their rites and practices. There were historically greater efforts to collaborate such as the Great Peace of Montreal to end the beaver wars and strike a treaty across nouvelle france and 39 "indian" nations. A lot of these wars were also proxy-wars between France and the British and the Dutch by trading weapons to various first nations and while France was overall less lovely, it shouldn't be confused for actual respect when it comes to anything looking like human rights. Nouvelle-France even had a bit of slave trade going on (~20,000 recorded) and had a general rate of 2 pawnees for 1 black person in terms of how they'd fare, with any slave being considered chattel. "the french sucked, the british sucked worse, and the americans sucked the most" is likely a solid rule of thumb.
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MononcQc posted:Yeah the French generally got along better (which is not to say "well") with the aboriginal populations. 
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My grandpa was of Acadian stock in northern Maine. Barely diggity-huit miles from the border he was
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Kenny Logins posted:i’ve been raised among acadians and you may not be surprised to find out they also feel it was at least ethnic cleansing, because it literally was tbf that was also what we were taught in louisiana history, they compared it to the trail of tears lol but yeah "catholic french colonial" isn't particularly distinct, though i'm sure anti-catholic sentiment was part of it here's what wikipedia has to say about it quote:Faragher compared the expulsions to contemporary acts of ethnic cleansing. In contrast, some leading historians have objected to this characterization of the expulsion. Historian John Grenier asserts that Faragher overstates the religious motivation for the expulsion and obscures the fact that the British accommodated Acadians by providing Catholic priests for forty years prior to the Expulsion. Grenier writes that Faragher "overstates his case; his focus on the grand dérangement as an early example of ethnic cleansing carries too much present-day emotional weight and in turn overshadows much of the accommodation that Acadians and Anglo-Americans reached."[108] As well, the British were clearly not concerned that the Acadians were French, given the fact that they were recruiting French "foreign Protestants" to settle in the region. Further, the New Englanders of Boston were not banishing Acadians from the Atlantic region; instead, they were actually deporting them to live in the heart of New England: Boston and elsewhere in the British colonies. tldr war is poo poo and wars of imperialism are esp poo poo
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:what, you mean the colonial war i mentioned? big lovely one, lotsa people killed, mostly french? The French and Indian War happened in and around Pittsburgh.
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Does Louisiana* even think of itself as "Dixie" though? I thought they had their own little racist melting pot** thing going on (much like Texas, actually)? *: More like "Loserana", ammirite? **: "Gumbo", if you must. Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Dec 4, 2020 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:tbf that was also what we were taught in louisiana history, they compared it to the trail of tears lol i’m not going to bat for them any further than I already have. i’d just say it was clearly ethnic cleansing and time spent saying “whoa whoa whoa it wasn’t technically a genocide” is time wasted, is all. i don’t think the concept of genocide is being deprecated when applied to 1755 in that area
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i get to find out today after 5 whether i've gotta go into a crowdedass courthouse next week for jury duty wondering how the upcoming statewide lockdown will interact with this lol
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i get to find out today after 5 whether i've gotta go into a crowdedass courthouse next week for jury duty
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Kenny Logins posted:oh btw since i last pissed and moaned about no one masking at work but me there’s been a re-read of the restrictions and now my worries have been addressed. feels good tbqh Now they even stopped pretending that masking-up was a requirement and you're at least happy that the pretense is over?
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Kenny Logins posted:i’m not going to bat for them any further than I already have. i’d just say it was clearly ethnic cleansing and time spent saying “whoa whoa whoa it wasn’t technically a genocide” is time wasted, is all. i don’t think the concept of genocide is being deprecated when applied to 1755 in that area yeah it's really six of one half dozen of the other when compared to colonialism/imperialism
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Schadenboner posted:Now they even stopped pretending that masking-up was a requirement and you're at least happy that the pretense is over?
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