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Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

"I am Albino. You wish to see me?"


pointsofdata posted:

I find coworking spaces help with a lot of these (although you will have to wear pants). They rarely have good snacks and you can pick one nearby so that it's a nice length walk.

ah yes, i am being sent to work from home in order to avoid the risk of getting infected in the office. certainly, the best life hack to make this trying time not so miserable is to just find another office to work in. this will have no far reaching negative consequences whatsoever

that said, while i am wfh until the 17th it seems france is not so panicky just yet. as it is going now i think i actually would prefer 1-2 weeks of more intense countermeasures to the current approach of "please wash your hands more often" and other stuff that seems to be flouted constantly in the interests of some "critical" business or other

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Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

"I am Albino. You wish to see me?"


Angryhead posted:

over here in Estonia: all schools closing on Monday and border checks are gonna be re-instated, whatever that means.
joining the wfh crew from tomorrow, no company mandate yet (probably because customer support & AML use Mac Minis and they don't want to let them take them home, not just yet ha) and instead this was used as an opportunity to force people to have to ask their line managers to approve WFH via this dumb HR tool we use

hello fellow estonia goon, fingers crossed that the neonazis in the government keel over asap instead of abusing these circumstances.

DuckConference posted:

starting coughing this morning, trying not to jump to any conclusions

same here, i am puttin it down to averse effects of not really going outside since last tuesday

stocked up on foods and stuff today, hopefully won't be going to work until the next few weeks pass

pointsofdata posted:

all the schools and universities etc are closing in France from Monday, taxes for businesses for March are being deferred, and they're encouraging the use of temporary unemployment for businesses which can no longer run (gov pays some large portion of salaries for a period of time)

i watched macron's speech today but since my french is still poo poo i only understood about schools closing and employers encouraged to do wfh. on the streets there did not seem to be any change (yet) but then i only skipped across the street to the grocery store so maybe we will get toilet paper riots here as well shortly

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

"I am Albino. You wish to see me?"


the gig economy is going to spread the virus around so much. no such thing as a paid sick leave when your "contract" is an app

also what's the over under on americans starting to shoot people who cough/look sick/exist within a week? :)

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

"I am Albino. You wish to see me?"


France closed all except grocery stores pharmacies gas stations and gov buildings

apparently it’s a stage 3 epidemic


is this bad?

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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so far the most scariest thing i have seen is the LA photo with lines outside the gun shop and to be honest i think if i was living there i would have been in that line too

stay safe us goons

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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i was more productive today than yesterday. still poo poo's red in the graphs and running out of ideas.

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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President Beep posted:

do a 360 and rotate your screen upside down

ditched the bad screen, already staring at the good screen

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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back at good screen

thank god that i can use the kitchen counter as a standing desk

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

"I am Albino. You wish to see me?"


pointsofdata posted:

You also fill out a form, and after initially saying you could do it on your phone you can't do that anymore. you can write it out and cut off the bottom each day to put a new one in though

you talking about france? i haven't tried this thing out yet but it sucks if phone version is not ok anymore

edit: welp gonna put that hoarded toilet paper into good use, this will be fine to the officer gentleman-madame

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

"I am Albino. You wish to see me?"


pointsofdata posted:

Yep, not ok anymore: http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/confinement-non-l-attestation-de-deplacement-n-est-pas-valable-sur-smartphone-18-03-2020-8282709.php

I'm not sure why, maybe they felt like people weren't doing it, were seeing someone coming to fine them, then whipping out their phones and filling it in? I've learnt not to think too hard about why you have to fill out forms here though.

nah it's probabyl an army/cops thing - don't trust stuff you do not understand. a piece of paper is safe and can be easily kept as evidence - smartphones are hugely personal and full of the person's different germs and a million other legal-whatever complications

i have not had to go out yet, so let's see how this develops :)

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

"I am Albino. You wish to see me?"


Jonny 290 posted:

four little letters that will get whatever nice keyboard and mouse you want shipped to your door by them

o s h a

It didn't stop being a thing just because we're all working in our PJs.

important things during pandemic:
* safety and security of workers performing critical tasks in danger of exposure
* the shape of my keyboard and mouse

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

"I am Albino. You wish to see me?"


pointsofdata posted:

I hope they innovate on the lockdown a bit - be allowed out if your house number is even and the day is in low risk areas, lotteries by commune for passes, idk there are loads of options for making the lockdown more sustainable safely, and there are a lot of people out of work so it should be possible to administer even the most beaurocratic schemes.


Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

"I am Albino. You wish to see me?"


check out this interview with a cool german virologist https://www.zeit.de/wissen/gesundheit/2020-03/christian-drosten-coronavirus-pandemic-germany-virologist-charite

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

"I am Albino. You wish to see me?"


pointsofdata posted:

The big mystery to me is why it's so bad in Italy but not bad in Japan. Some of it is probably different statistics methods, but there aren't loads of stories about Japanese hospitals being overwhelmed like in Italy. Mask wearing and social practices might also be relevant, but you have to wonder if the way hospitals are treating patients is not-optimal in Italy, if they can't provide top quality care then is taking an I'll person into the company of lots of other I'll people actually helping anyone?

i would say it is a combination of:
* japan is clean as gently caress
* all workers in japan do yearly medical exams and are in reasonably good health
* social interactions mostly do not involve physical contact and being close to each other
* culture of wearing masks when sick to prevent transmiting to others
* government seems not to test too much in order to save face and keep the olympics on
* a lot of wfh policies set up by companies and active effort to cooperate to reduce risk
* culture of disaster preparedness
* small social circles outside of work
* lots of old people so there is a lot of hospitals/retirement homes already per inhabitant

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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Sagebrush posted:

https://send.firefox.com/download/55656f21119f686a/#33labujsXMiRARnA0bMx-w

better get on it because it says it expires after 1 download and i can't change it

you can try https://wetransfer.com/ free up to 2gb and they keep it for 2 weeks iirc

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

"I am Albino. You wish to see me?"


not gonna lie reading united states news and twitter is a downer

also looking at every virus graph shoot up on an exponential curve is not good either

however, take it one day at a time and remember smart german doc who said that significant results come in on wednesdays due to weekend backlog and mon-tue spent on catching up

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

"I am Albino. You wish to see me?"


yeah you may learn to shoot a gun at the range, but to be able to treat, clean and handle guns safely it's going to take loads and loads of practice and even real life army dudes regularly gently caress up and hurt themselves or people around them

and this goes x10 for being able to do all the above in a hosed up mental state, be it panic or sleep deprivation or hunger or hypothermia. the whole reason you do the drills over and over again is to build the muscle memory that you can somewhat rely on

edit: basically if anyone walks up to me and says "yeah guns are easy, you just need to bla bla bla" i will take it as the surest sign possible that they are going to be overconfident, negligent and put people around them into danger

Penisface fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Mar 27, 2020

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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hwo the gently caress reconfigures their radios during a deployment, that poo poo is done ahead of time when packing and prepping

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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echinopsis posted:

why didn't someone say dont do this lmao

sorry i did not want to be a oval office

this thread is getting quite wild, sadbrains should not be mixed with gun chat imo

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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also we just walked past an ambulance getting someone from across the street, can confirm the doctors are fully suited up

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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Fatal Error posted:

obviously, sometimes you gotta shoot your neighbor or maybe a minority that scared you by existing

i remember an army sergeant telling us that once he got a license to carry a personal sidearm in civilian life, he also started getting into situations where he felt that he needed to use it

definitely some "when all you have is a hammer" business going on there

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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wfh status: all good, doing q2 planning and the company seems not to be too affected except for the hiring freeze in europe

using my kitchen counter as a stand up desk for meetings and e-mails time so i dont sit in my chair too much during the day. aside from missing my bike trip to the office this is probably healthier than it used to be

macos with spectacles app is pretty usable on a 15" screen with reduced font sizes and compact scaling

however none of this matters in the face of impending collapse of the capitalist system unless social safety nets are strengthened a lot more than they are now

also for sanity's sake i should probably stop reading united states twitter accounts for news..

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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wtf is a background tv noise

can't understand why i would want to put on something that i do not plan to actively focus on and enjoy

i guess it's just me who gets distracted by anything that has too much human speech in it, long dj mixes are the thing for me

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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incredible courage under pressure, imagine having to make fart apps on a laptop with only one external screen!

this is up there with the apollo 13 mission when it comes to ingenuity in dire conditions!

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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President Beep posted:

rotor coronavirus isn't literally a "bug" that you can keep out of your pants like that

what if you also use sandals

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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rotor posted:

in the house??? don't be crazy

don't you want to unlock the attribute bonus from wearing 3 pieces of the combination set?

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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Jonny 290 posted:

dude walking ahead of you carrying a lantern and ringing a bell

great idea, but signatures only come after your posts

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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pro tip: cook lots of dinner so you can just heat up the leftovers next day for lunch

pro tip 2: pasta + hacked up tomato + hacked up ball of mozzarella + salt-pepper-olive oil is a nice 15 minute meal

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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NoneMoreNegative posted:

username / post combo

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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Cybernetic Vermin posted:

sweden is seemingly flattening out (deaths a big high, but hospitalizations are ticking down a bit without ever having gone really out of control) without a lockdown. so i don't think it is that optimistic to expect lockdowns in similar countries (demographics/preparedness) to actually wind down a bit in the not too distant a future.

i am pretty sure that there will be a relaxation of some kind in the coming weeks, but i still have a lurking feeling that whatever "flattening" we see is pure luck or some artifact of testing

for instance, japan was doing great for weeks while everybody else ate poo poo, and now they are ramping up measures and going into lockdown. was it all just posturing to avoid delaying the olympics?

germany also was doing well compared to france, italy and spain, but now they are also discussing making measures more strict.

is it something to do with available hospital beds per person? could be that countries who have neoliberal free marketed their healthcare will find that things have been "optimized" and there are not enough capacities for emergency response like this. i think it explains sweden, japan and germany being hit with less deaths because they could provide the best care

i bet the culture of showing up to work sick will bite japan in the rear end though

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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Maximum Leader posted:

hospital beds per capita is quite low in Sweden though. there are only 2.1 beds per 1000 people here, which can be compared to 8 in Germany or 4.7 oecd average. I think low rates of smoking and obesity are bigger factors here.

https://data.oecd.org/healtheqt/hospital-beds.htm

what about the social safety net that allows people to self-isolate without being afraid that they will be fired? paid sick leaves etc?

this seems to be the main thing in the US - many people can not afford not to go to work, so they go and catch it and spread it

i bet it is the same thing here in france too - well off people have a safety net but there are a lot of those who do not

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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pointsofdata posted:

I think that's slightly harsh on France - the government has at least said it'll do something for the self-employed!

does all the gig delivery and scooter collection count as self employment though?
i admit i have only been here since july, all i got is a gut feeling

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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pointsofdata posted:

i no longer feel like giving the french authorities any benefit of the doubt so i'd assume that it only covers self employed earning more than 60k eur as lawyers, accountants or journalists or something dumb like that. i'm fairly certain that police officers are the main transmission vectors at this point, they've slowly restricted people's ability to go outside (in the middle of nowhere!) to the point that i have more close contact with people on the one road we can walk on and the constant police stops now than before the lockdown started

there's one road where you're only allowed to walk on one side!

yeah i live in paris proper and i have not really seen police at all. of course i have only been outside maybe 4-5 times this past month

honestly not sure what to think of it. not surprised at all that some cops are overeager chuds downplaying the risk and upplaying the jackboots

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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pointsofdata posted:

The exact rules vary by region and don't always make a lot of sense - one bit of path near us is banned for no apparent reason and there's no sign (the police say they've asked for one but the council hasn't put one up yet - doesn't stop them hanging out there and dining people). Others are busier (still safe though - like one group per 40m and it's really wide as there's perpendicular parking) and technically banned but the police aren't fining people "as everyone walks there". I get that the council probably doesn't have the capacity or knowledge to implement rules sensibly, and that they have generally good intentions, but they don't seem to be improving of them or checking on the sanity of the implementation.

oh well i guess i better stay inside until everybody figures this stuff out for themselves. :downs:

we went for a walk like two weeks ago and came back to an ambulance with fully hazmatted up doctors getting someone from across the street, that kind of quashed the appetite for walks

i admit would be nice to get out of town and wander around in nature a bit though

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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i think this article is written by people who do not realize "number go up" has stopped affecting 90% of people positively since a long time ago

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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DELETE CASCADE posted:

the article isn't primarily about "number go up" though, at least not the stock market number. it's more about unemployment, and while i'm a fully out of touch computer programmer, i'm pretty sure "having a job that pays you" still affects most people positively

that’s true but I also recall the unemployment number being constantly fudged by governments so they could claim “things are getting better” while an increasing amount of people are not reflected in these numbers at all

also the word “debt” kept popping up in every other sentence. at this point who the gently caress cares? there’s an insane amount of work and capital needed for feeding and clothing and providing basic needs to at risk people but for some reason we should care about number?

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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Broken Machine posted:

is anyone else finding it difficult to get things done? no matter what i'm doing, in the back of my mind i keep thinking about all the people suffering, much of it preventable and it's hard to focus on much else

I have started making daily donations of 19 euro to the French red cross

I have seen local relief funds shared on twitter too. maybe try those or and also your local food bank

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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when i get banging on a problem it is insanely nice to just hack uninterrupted

however sometimes it is tough to get going especially when rear end in a top hat neighbors start loudly playing choral music from 2pm

also gently caress functional programming nerds forever what the gently caress is wrong with you, do that poo poo in your spare time or document and test it properly

Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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refleks posted:

yeah, job stability and respect at your place of work really sucks

please someone get me a job at a faang and a worthless boss with and som deep OTM options.

personally i just can't get enough of changing jobs every year to deal with new and interesting ways software projects are hosed up and having to remember a new bunch of names and getting to establish myself in yet another office diplomacy circle that has who knows how many self appointed rockstars

i also absolutely love to start up a new interviewing round 6 months after i land my previous job so i can invent bullshit excuses in order to go and do whiteboard exercises with a bunch of strangers, all the while slowly gearing myself up to start negotiating poo poo with my current boss

finally last, but not least, the i value the chance to toss the gently caress away all the expertise and experience i have built learning to use my current company's technology stack, no matter how unique a position i might have at my current place in terms of the company's position in the industry and the level of expertise of my coworkers

inject that poo poo straight in my veins

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Penisface
Jul 17, 2008

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DuckConference posted:

the EU alone has 100 million more people so the odds are a bit against it but it's close enough that differences in how they're counted and reported could swamp the population difference

we could basically count the tallies by comparing year on year death statistics and have a pretty good estimate though. this should negate most of the differences between counting strategies

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