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Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



Sagebrush posted:

i have spent the entire day today trying to train a pile of people nearly twice my age how to use Zoom.

we got through "downloading the desktop app" and "scheduling a meeting" and "sending the link to participants" but bogged down in such advanced features as raising your hand, mass muting/unmuting and creating breakout rooms.

i tried several times to teach them the real power-user "hold spacebar to temporarily unmute, like a radio PTT button" feature but woooooooosh

teaching a bunch of old career academics with egos to match how to use technology sounds like its own special hell. thank you for your service :patriot:

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Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



i was going to go to scandinavia this summer, but i guess it'll have to wait until next year now :(
i'm bummed, but at least it's something for next summer

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



President Beep posted:

we're flying to the UK in late june. still planning on that happening.


e: unless i'm dead, then i'll be flying to shitpost valhalla (up my own rear end)

one of the places we're going is norway, to see some friends, plus some of those going along are olds so they're more vulnerable. the whole country is basically shut down now though, including all the museums and such so we might as well wait. hope your trip works out

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



i picked up toilet paper yesterday, and i almost felt like saying to the clerk at the checkout, hey i'm not hoarding this i'm just low on stock and i'd rather not run out, it has nothing to do with corona. i bet corona isn't fun though! eventually someone will have a trip report

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



it's difficult to stop the spread because a lot of people are asymptomatic while contagious for a week or more. what's going to be interesting is when cases reach critical mass and people start dying because we're out of ventilators (this is already happening in iran)

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



rotor posted:

i remember someone pitching second life or some other bullshit as a teleconferencing thing back in 2003 or so

ibm did this a bunch, i think it was mandatory for at least some employees

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



fart simpson posted:

the uk's plan seems to be basically opening its arms to embrace the virus, just getting it over with as fast as possible????

they're betting on everyone getting the virus, basically. they want to infect those least likely to die, and eventually enough will have it to develop herd immunity. they're about to isolate all old people so they hopefully don't die as much. that's their risky plan

the us plan at this point seems to be basically to kill as many people as possible, but pretend it's not as bad by not testing anyone so the numbers look better

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



Acer Pilot posted:

I got some racism today for buying two jugs of water. I have always bought water from the market ever since my kitchen faucet poured out funky coloured smelly water once but I guess me being Asian during this pandemic gives people the right to comment about or question my purchases. I am pretty displeased about this since this is Canada and Iíve never really experienced this sort of thing before.

Anyway, sup wfh crew.

bottled water is terrible for the environment, consider getting a filter and fixing your plumbing

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010




pretty sure it's this one

https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/10/mustard-soft-pretzels-from-salty-snacks.html

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



Zlodo posted:

with good reason tho, charts showing the progression indicated that many countries were on the same trajectory as Italy but just like a week behind

given the massive under reporting and lack of testing, the us may already be well past italy in actual cases. some health officials were estimating we're already over 500k; some in ohio were guessing about 100k there alone

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



PIZZA.BAT posted:

yeah i think italy scared the poo poo out of everyone. i'm cautiously optimistic that we may get through this with minimal casualties. can't wait for all the contrarian shitlords to talk about how it wasn't necessary once it finally blows over

i don't think there's any way the us avoids mass casualties here. we have about 3 hospital beds per 1000 people, only a third or so of those are available, and probably half of the population will get it. we also have no ability as a country to quickly ramp up that capacity. there are probably going to be mass graves, bodies in the streets, the internet could stop working, you could lose electricity. not to be an alarmist but this is incredibly serious and there's no realistic way to mitigate the risk; too many sovereign citizens will just break quarantine anyway, i doubt they'll be able to enforce a lockdown

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



from the main corona thread on c-spam:

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



echinopsis posted:

sam harris making sense podcast has some
epidemiologist on who recons fatality rate may be less than 0.6% realistically

but itís also getting everywhere

thatís what? around one and a half million dead in the US?

24,000 here in nz

the podcast is worthwhile listening to the dude seems to know what heís talking about. gonna listen to the rest on the way to work. getting in 2.5 hours before we open to get poo poo done 😓 we are busy AS gently caress




it depends on what percentage of people need hospitalization. once hospitals are overwhelmed, it doesn't much matter if you would have lived with treatment, and death rates are going to go way up

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



Bloody posted:

hospital overwhelmed is gonna spike unrelated deaths too like heart attacks and strokes and poo poo

not to be all gloomy... things are going to be fine!

however


looks like we may have about ~1000 or so people who need hospitalization for every bed available.


quote:

Letís do some fuzzy math. The population of Hennepin County is 1.25 million. Experts have said somewhere between 20 to 60 percent of Americans are likely to contract COVID-19. That wonít be evenly distributed across the country. But for the purposes of this thought experiment, letís say 20 percent of Hennepin County residents get COVID-19 and, as in the Chinese study, 19 percent are severe or critical cases and would require hospitalization. Thatís 47,000 people. On a given day, Hennepin Healthcareís hospital network might have 21 empty beds. The Hennepin Healthcare network doesnít include all the hospitals in Hennepin County, but itís unlikely that other facilities have way more extra beds sitting around.


i can't even imagine what it's like for doctors and aprns to have to decide, okay i have 20 patients and 3 ventilators, who has a family? who seems healthier? because people couldn't stop going out to bars. hard to believe there's a political schism over whether to take it seriously

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



i went to a supermarket today in vermont, and i kind of figured maybe vermonters were being less panicky but no, we're out of toilet paper too

humans, what can you do

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



Stereotype posted:

Iím planning on not returning my car lease, and also not buying it out, in a month if this poo poo is still going on because Iím not going to a car dealership gently caress that what a waste of time and a huge risk. Iím not going to buy it though because I want to save the money in case I need it.

come try and tow it. I dare you. your tow truck will get stuck and now I have a tow truck AND a car.

gently caress you capitalism go gently caress your self what are you going to do now bitch

defaulting on a leased vehicle may wreck your credit. i mean, lots of people are going to be screwed over on this but still. i'd just contact the dealership and talk to them about your concerns. alternately just buy a cheap but functional grand or two car in the meantime and have fun

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



can hardly even believe the us is running primary elections right now

https://twitter.com/jeffnzmm/status/1239915055476588550

some chudly fed judge, probably newly appointed, just said that a mere global pandemic wasn't reason to postpone an election or move to mailed-in ballots. oh and chicago isn't even counting some mailed-in ballots either, saying they took too long. hooray

i hope they're giving out dying to vote stickers instead of i voted

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



Hed posted:

it's probably not a bad idea to make it really hard to move election dates around, although what you're showing is that the polling place was closed? the mailed-in part of your story is hosed. Sounds extremely cook county though.

yeah, a lot of people are reporting the volunteers responsible for staffing just didn't show up at all, no answer to phone calls or questions about it. voters are either completely disenfranchised here, or able to vote at the risk of their health

i think an exception can be made to move the elections due to the huge health risk

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



i wonder if it's going to affect school in the fall too. a vaccine is probably at least six months away, more likely a year to 18 months

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



Sagebrush posted:

what are we gonna call this disease when it becomes an annual thing? according to china we can't use catchy names like wuhan flu any more and it's not even clear whether it came from bats or what so we can't call it bat flu. i'm guessing we'll just drop the -19 and start treating it like a word and it will be "oh, grandma died of covid back in '21"

it's sars 2; idk what snappy name we'll end up with, but i think roni / rona is gaining traction

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



it's funny that corona is pretty much dead as a brand due to this

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



on some level this hasn't quite sunk in for me. we're just at the start and only a hundred or so have died from it so far in the us. most people are just starting to understand the impact of this.

today they closed all the restaurants here aside from carryout or delivery, and a lot of them may never open again. the colleges have all shut here and students are going home, and some of them won't be coming back. ~1 in 5 people are already out of work across the nation, and most everyone in tech is hunkered down working at home. and there's a hugely contested election looming on the horizon as well in the middle of all of this. i wonder how it's all going to end and hope we end up okay

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



Stereotype posted:

It feels really not important right now but it's bullshit that Florida and Illinois still had their primary elections today. No one went to vote, no one is paying attention to that poo poo. If this ever ends and the DNC is parading around Biden as the chosen one since he "won" when only old morons were leaving their houses I'm going to be upset and certainly am not voting for him.

the worst part is the elderly poll workers; a lot of them are sweet old ladies and men who are going to die as a direct result of this. it makes me angry and sad that people in charge are yet again pushing profits over people

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010




i don't mean entirely unemployed, but about 20% of people are working less now, and a bunch of them are just out of work. if you're a small business owner or employee and you're not an essential service, a lot of places have already ordered those businesses closed. even restaurants that are still open for carryout, their business is way down and all their front house staff is mostly out of work completely

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/17/817158521/poll-nearly-1-in-5-households-have-lost-work-because-of-pandemic

apparently here they have to apply for unemployment in person or by phone, and the offices are closed and no one is on the phone so people affected are just out of luck for now as far as benefits

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



big scary monsters posted:

isn't one of the gbs mods in their 70s or something?

genesplicer is about that, yes

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



the worst is a huge conference call and there's that one person loudly chewing in the background "who is that? please mute your mic" munch munch munch

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



rotor posted:

just get a tracheotomy and breathe through a tube like a cool smoker grandpa

https://twitter.com/rakshesha/status/1231578964117704704

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



fart simpson posted:

what report is that

think pizza bat means this

https://twitter.com/jeremycyoung/status/1239975682643357696

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



it'll be fine jonny, try to relax, maybe get in touch with some local friends

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



Sagebrush posted:

except for getting groceries i haven't left my apartment since they announced the shelter-in-place on friday and i'm starting to go nuts

from what i've read you're allowed to go out and travel to exercise, so do that? think you're even allowed to go with a friend so long as you stay six feet apart

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



unpacked robinhood posted:

I'm in brittany where we're 50m away from a beach similar to the one you described and I'll go nuts if they actually try to enforce that idiot rule.
Meanwhile people are allowed to bring their germ bomb kids to the place I get food from.

it's brittany bitch

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



it's funny that lots of tech workers for years have been agitating to work from home, and older management mostly saying no (for various reasons that sound old fashioned). then a pandemic hits, most everyone is working at home and people are realizing that wfh isn't a panacea either. long term, i think wfh is good as far as resources, but it does have its issues. it'd be nice to find a good way to get some face to face socialization while mostly work remotely. humans are mostly fairly social creatures so we benefit from that

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



ShadowHawk posted:

so one thing I've learned is that news organizations really really care about having their display ads work

like one time I broke a lot of doubleclick and there were a bunch of articles about it that I'm sure were just thrilling to everyday readers

there's a bag of shredded money beside my office desk to commemorate the occasion. There was a tradition of passing it on to whoever caused a big outage but I decided to just leave it on display instead (some people might not take it in stride)

five years of this and now I'm the senior person on the team

breaking doubleclick is probably the most public good you've done in one act the entire time you've been at alphabet, well done

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



Poopernickel posted:

One of my co-workers literally murdered another one over the weekend.

Like, with a knife.

They were friends with each other outside of work - I think the murderer probably just cracked and broke.

so you're a linux developer

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



graph posted:

i laid down with my eyes shut from noon to 2pm

i feel largely better but this situation is taking its toll

i had this messed up thought earlier today, wouldn't it be funny to get a shirt that says "i have plague aids" and then immediately i thought, drat that's messed up thing to be joking about. i'm okay for a few weeks of this but i don't know about a year

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BCsxQg3NE4

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



rotor posted:

i was of course referring to their license plate slogan which is the only notable aspect of new hampshire

it's pretty, and it's nice enough overall. definitely has its eccentricities, and i'm glad i'm in vermont where we have a sensible stay at home order and are coordinating a good response instead. i'm wondering if it'd be safer to shut down restaurants entirely, even if it's just curbside / drive-thru pickup. some will have trouble getting meals if they do though

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



and nh has finally issued a stay at home order, joining the rest of new england

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



now that the us has taken leadership here where other countries were too afraid to, it should be just a few weeks before we've conquered the virus

it's kind of cool how the virus is illustrating that the most dangerous thing in our lives is other people

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Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010



qirex posted:

I think we're going to find out that the most dangerous thing is actually institutional malfeasance

which is other people. also malfeasance is a weird word, because no one ever says feasance anymore, and malfeasance mostly just shows up in contexts like that. it's like a vestigial word

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