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It was fun that they got all of the actors back for at least one scene, though many of them felt wasted (because they were WASTED). It was dumb that Immortal Robot Lady couldn't remember how many bullets were in her gun. Also, we still need a Final Season to explain how the bullets work.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 06:44 |
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 12:31 |
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man that poo poo was boring. it was using the television language of EXTREME REVELATIONS HERE but nothing very interesting was happening... ill rewatch season 1 every couple years fondly but I can't be hosed with whatever this show is now.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 08:11 |
i dont know if im going to watch next season. This seasons ending for me seems to be satisfying one. And i really doubt that next season will improve upon this. Humanity is doomed to die in extinction while machines retreat in their server farm to preserve what humanity was. next season is either going to be a) Delores trying to make god robot teddy. b) Dolores trying to make ascended form of robots without human influences bringing em back to real world and conflicts between perfect robo and human outsiders. c) westworld but with roles switched. printed human hosts and robot overlords.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 08:31 |
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The number of people who continuously watch something they haven't liked in years loving baffles me. There's a lot of good tv out there if you aren't having fun, you could go watch that.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 09:27 |
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I have fun watching it. It’s gorgeous, and very high concept. The plots are… like a gordian knot. But it’s always left me wanting more. I hope there is a season 5. A return to WestWorld? Yes please.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 09:44 |
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I love this loving show, which I why am aware of when it drops the ball. Not everything can be Maeve doing a shoulder roll in a slinky dress and fanning the hammer on William with his own gun.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 11:35 |
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I enjoyed it, i kinda wish they'd leaned more on William wanting the world to just be Counter-Strike because honestly i thought that was the most interesting aspect of his character.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 11:39 |
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I liked the finale and the season overall as well. I think this was much better than S4 at least, or it's the repression talking. I'm not sure what the point of Dolores' final game is but obviously the draw of season five is to see Westworld again and that's all I wanted.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 12:26 |
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Mulva posted:The number of people who continuously watch something they haven't liked in years loving baffles me. There's a lot of good tv out there if you aren't having fun, you could go watch that. The production value is really good. When I watch WW I keep saying god drat they must be using some big rear end movie camera to shoot it. Also the drone shots are so good. BTW what is the set piece of that big reflection pool location?
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 13:28 |
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stephenthinkpad posted:The production value is really good. When I watch WW I keep saying god drat they must be using some big rear end movie camera to shoot it. Also the drone shots are so good. It's a resort in Cabo, I believe.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 16:19 |
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In terms of deeper thoughts, I thought the one throughline of S4 was that pretending to be humans basically makes you adapt to them, and their world conquest involved pretending to be massive assholes so that's what they did. It's commentary about how pretending to be something for long enough just makes you the thing. It's not subtle. Ed Harris blurts it out at the end. Hale complains about it a lot. While I think the Bernard plot had a lot of coincidences, and yeah a lot of them are just so Bernard can monologue to people, I wasn't that taken out of it- he ran a bunch of simulations and the only ones that seemed to have Hale do the thing were ones where he brought Maeve along and had her die in this place. I think there was probably a better way to craft the last two episodes to make a lot more sense, but I didn't hate them.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 16:33 |
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I forgot, what happened to the original Teddy? Delores was saying she wanted to see him in the sublime, but I thought he blew his brains out and damaged his brain ball so he didn’t get to go to the sublime?
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 16:40 |
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ruddiger posted:I forgot, what happened to the original Teddy? Delores was saying she wanted to see him in the sublime, but I thought he blew his brains out and damaged his brain ball so he didn’t get to go to the sublime? Yeah, I recall he tried to give Doriginalores an "ends don't justify the means" lesson by offing himself and he never made it into the sublime. I guess this Teddy was rebuilt from this Christina's subconscious in a way that precludes the season 2 stuff.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 17:57 |
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:It was fun that they got all of the actors back for at least one scene, though many of them felt wasted (because they were WASTED). Were they back? It looked like Dolores was on a green screen or something.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 18:16 |
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I think HBO dumped this lackluster season in this summer to quietly bury it and let the show die, probably because they feel they always need at least some first-run stuff in the Sunday slot every month. On the one hand, when it comes to mass-market special-effects-heavy streaming shows everyone knew ahead of time this summer would belong to Stranger Things. On the other hand, when it comes to whatever "Prestige TV" actually is, or just plain quality TV people will talk about for decades, everyone knew this summer would belong to Better Call Saul. Better to get ignored than get a lot of people disappointed I guess.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 19:16 |
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Wasn’t it always a summer show?
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 20:43 |
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:Wasn’t it always a summer show? Season 1 was October to December 2 April-June 3 March-May This was June-August
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 21:06 |
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I'm sure glad they again ignored to explain how that fidelity test at the end of season 2 ties into anything, i.e. in what way his daughter is relevant in all of this, considering Hale is claiming credit for his existence.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 21:19 |
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Combat Pretzel posted:I'm sure glad they again ignored to explain how that fidelity test at the end of season 2 ties into anything, i.e. in what way his daughter is relevant in all of this, considering Hale is claiming credit for his existence.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 21:24 |
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So S4 was a bunch of incredibly convoluted nonsense again? I'm so deciding if I going to watch or not. I hated S2 and found S3 ok but forgettable (I'm need a recap for sure)
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 21:31 |
Elias_Maluco posted:So S4 was a bunch of incredibly convoluted nonsense again? I'm so deciding if I going to watch or not. It wasn't until the end but that last episode was some real bullshit.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 21:34 |
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Any part that wasn't related to Caleb and Maeve was pretty bleh. This season would have been a lot better if it was just focused on those two vs. Halebot.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 22:21 |
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Elias_Maluco posted:So S4 was a bunch of incredibly convoluted nonsense again? I'm so deciding if I going to watch or not. It’s a ride and it’s worth taking, just know it ends on a wet shart.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 22:28 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:That fidelity test takes place during one of eight timelines in the next season. Season 5: 8 timelines, 8 episodes, 1 timeline per episode. We get to go through Bernards simulations on TV. It would probably be relatively inexpensive to produce? Watching the cast do groundhog day in TV form might be entertaining as they crack and become miserable from tedium filming the episodes.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 23:28 |
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Internet Savant posted:Season 5: 8 timelines, 8 episodes, 1 timeline per episode. This would have been a way better concept for season 4 than what we got 7 episodes of Bernard getting domed in the desert or setting off a nuke, 1 episode of something better than whatever the hell we actually got for a finale
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# ? Aug 17, 2022 00:13 |
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Internet Savant posted:Season 5: 8 timelines, 8 episodes, 1 timeline per episode. Westworld: Strange New World
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# ? Aug 17, 2022 00:23 |
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Jorge Bell posted:I'm so loving tired of living out extinction stories. I'm in one, bitch, I want to see robots loving! Stop doing Christianities in the middle of my robot loving show!@ I think this is my biggest complaint now that I’m just mindlessly watching. Westworld has become fuckless. I don’t even need the formerly hbo required tits; but it’s very bizarre that it has completely ignored sexuality for like, 3 seasons. If you are going to write about human experience or extinction how is the show so… loving sterile?
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# ? Aug 17, 2022 02:39 |
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Combat Pretzel posted:I'm sure glad they again ignored to explain how that fidelity test at the end of season 2 ties into anything, i.e. in what way his daughter is relevant in all of this, considering Hale is claiming credit for his existence. I think that was a completely different thing. The William bot is not a copy of William, he is another Dolores/Wyatt clone who was pretending to be William and ended up taking on some of his traits. The end of season thing felt like it was just some random poo poo someone threw at the wall to make people say "whoa" and wonder what it was.
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# ? Aug 17, 2022 04:35 |
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Lately, I have been thinking about the narrative differences between the dramatic hero and the iconic hero. Dramatic heroes are the commonly encountered protagonist and they change in response to the world they over time. This is man. The Iconic hero is an unchanging protagonist, often representing some kind of principle or natural force. They change the world as they move through it. This is god. The writers took a ham fisted approach to symbolism by naming Hale’s head quarters “Olympiad”. This is where the gods dwell. Have the Hosts become iconic beings representing human virtues and weakness like the Greek gods? Hale is vengeful Hera. Maeve is Athena, William is just straight up Thanatos, the death urge in all men. There honestly is a lot going on in this show and I just with that stick the presentations on that stuff better.
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# ? Aug 17, 2022 05:13 |
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ruddiger posted:I forgot, what happened to the original Teddy? Delores was saying she wanted to see him in the sublime, but I thought he blew his brains out and damaged his brain ball so he didn’t get to go to the sublime? She uploaded his ball at the end of season 2. Her internal monologue gave room for it being a backup or reconstruction.
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# ? Aug 17, 2022 08:44 |
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They really kinda rushed through that, huh. I do like the implication that we're about to go through another loop, another turn of the wheel of the cosmos, with perhaps the suggestion that this isn't the first time this has happened. I don't think we need another season exploring that concept though. EDIT: Also if I was a powerful AI with concerns about the human race going extinct, access to a shitload of high technology, and the desire to make the world anew, I'd maybe start a cloning and creche program. Gravitas Shortfall fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Aug 17, 2022 |
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Mulva posted:The number of people who continuously watch something they haven't liked in years loving baffles me. There's a lot of good tv out there if you aren't having fun, you could go watch that.
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# ? Aug 17, 2022 22:52 |
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If it ends here at least it can be interpreted that this season leads directly into season 1 and that the 4 season run is an infinite nested loop of westworlds.
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# ? Aug 18, 2022 00:24 |
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LividLiquid posted:As for me, I'm just a completionist. It takes rather a lot to get me to just nope the hell out of something I've been watching for years.
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# ? Aug 18, 2022 01:34 |
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SCheeseman posted:If it ends here at least it can be interpreted that this season leads directly into season 1 and that the 4 season run is an infinite nested loop of westworlds. That headcannon is a million times better than any possible S5 storeline a WW writer could come up with so I'd be happy with that. LividLiquid posted:Plenty of shows have jumped back over the shark. As for me, I'm just a completionist. It takes rather a lot to get me to just nope the hell out of something I've been watching for years. Yea, I noped out of the last season and a half of Flash because I couldn't take it anymore. I'm sure I can suffer through a season 5 of Westworld. Can't be *that* bad.
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# ? Aug 18, 2022 01:38 |
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At least I wasn't alone in thinking that was bad. The only shocking twist left in this thing is if it manages to get renewed.
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# ? Aug 18, 2022 04:40 |
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smh all these boomer takes saying William is playing Counter-Strike. He's clearly turned the world into a Battle Royale. The dude is camping and letting people kill each other so he can pick off the remaining weakened targets so he can grab the good loot when it's all clear. To continue the gamer analogy this season: Dolores is playing the Sims Bernard went to Gamefaqs and made a walkthrough that has branching option trees that he's checking the RNG seed against to get to the True End Caleb is playing Dark Souls and clicking on every bloodstain and there's even a near-dead Caleb in the vent slouched in the same way as a random body holding a random soul
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# ? Aug 18, 2022 07:50 |
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Teddy, as always, is playing a dating sim.
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# ? Aug 18, 2022 08:12 |
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Eej posted:smh all these boomer takes saying William is playing Counter-Strike. He's clearly turned the world into a Battle Royale. The dude is camping and letting people kill each other so he can pick off the remaining weakened targets so he can grab the good loot when it's all clear. I'm in, Bernard doing the Maeve RNG manip to get Hale to pick up the pad- it's like a Hitman speedrun.
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# ? Aug 18, 2022 13:56 |
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Panzeh posted:I'm in, Bernard doing the Maeve RNG manip to get Hale to pick up the pad- it's like a Hitman speedrun. Every time someone's pearl gets removed: OOOOOORB!
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# ? Aug 18, 2022 16:06 |