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owlhawk911 posted:you are wise and i trust you Good post. The rule gets more confusing the more we try and define it I think. We do have written permission to make jokes about Trump's verbal gaffes and capitalism now tho! Jaded Burnout posted:I don't. I think it went off the rails the moment someone mentioned capitalism. I don't see anything itt calling for an end to capitalism, or railing against wealth generation here. I saw one joke about capitalism that was mild and, to me, refers to the virus situation in the US at least. Many of us here feel things were re-opened too soon for the sake of preserving the economy while we dont have universal healthcare and many dont even have insurance. Also the very real worry that a much worse second spike could cause a second lockdown and even worse damage to the economy on top of a greater death rate. I sincerely thought you were being ironic until your follow up post, sorry I still think this is a good discussion and am glad you are making your opinions known too |
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im sorry for my bad joke
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# ? Jun 18, 2020 01:56 |
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jpeg posted:im sorry for my bad joke ur a good poster and i enjoy your poasts and av and sig friend (also i like all of you so hoping i didn't make anyone feel singled out, just feel strongly that we need a venting space and would be happy to offer to help keep it a good place for people that wanna post in that kinda thread) |
# ? Jun 18, 2020 02:00 |
so much fussin and fightin
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# ? Jun 18, 2020 02:01 |
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I realize that BYOB is not PYF, but I think this post from their rules thread is a pretty well written explanation of their no politics rule. I think the same reasoning can be applied to our little forum.LITERALLY A BIRD posted:Happy April, PYF! I'm happy to announce it's been three years, just shy of to the day, since we rolled out our new, wildly acclaimed RULE OF THE DAY: Do not post about who or what you would or wouldn't have sex with. Nobody cares. What a great three years it's been. I'm glad you've all enjoyed this rule as much as I have. |
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jpeg posted:im sorry for my bad joke Don't be! I laughed. It wasnt even anti-capitalist imo, just critical of it. I'd say more, but it's not the place for it. It is the place for humor, and your post was that imo |
# ? Jun 18, 2020 02:13 |
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Stoner Sloth posted:ur a good poster and i enjoy your poasts and av and sig friend aw thanks you too. for whatever it's worth (not a lot) a thread where people can complain about things with just tacit 'i feel u, that sucks man' vibes without it becoming an echo chamber woudl be cool. cspam just moves too quickly for me
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# ? Jun 18, 2020 02:14 |
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but this thread is like way off topic now bringing it back to the virus, i'm almost at 15 weeks of wfh and i miss my coworkers
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# ? Jun 18, 2020 02:16 |
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Barking Gecko posted:I realize that BYOB is not PYF, but I think this post from their rules thread is a pretty well written explanation of their no politics rule. I think the same reasoning can be applied to our little forum. It's a good rule, but I don't see anyone calling for the beheading of landlords or saying 'kill boomers' here, and don't think that's what anyone is asking for in the yob |
# ? Jun 18, 2020 02:18 |
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jpeg posted:but this thread is like way off topic now sorry friend, hope it gets better and you can go back soon - friend of mine here was having the same trouble |
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jpeg posted:for whatever it's worth (not a lot) a thread where people can complain about things with just tacit 'i feel u, that sucks man' vibes without it becoming an echo chamber woudl be cool. Slush Garbo posted:It's a good rule, but I don't see anyone calling for the beheading of landlords or saying 'kill boomers' here, and don't think that's what anyone is asking for in the yob this, and I'll shut up now and let mods have a think about things so that i'm not keeping things off topic. hope you are all okay despite everything going on, this virus is a right fucker and i hope someone punches it right in the reproductive area! |
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Slush Garbo posted:It's a good rule, but I don't see anyone calling for the beheading of landlords or saying 'kill boomers' here, and don't think that's what anyone is asking for in the yob Those things were mentioned as examples of posting that might be acceptable in the political forums, not as examples of things that are being posted in byob. In any case, this is byob, so I'm sure we can come up with a solution that works reasonably well for everyone, or at least leaves everyone equally dissatisfied. |
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Barking Gecko posted:or at least leaves everyone equally dissatisfied.
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# ? Jun 18, 2020 02:54 |
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Wait a minute I thought we weren't talking about politics! lmao |
# ? Jun 18, 2020 02:56 |
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E: Sorry, wrong thread
Escape From Noise fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Jun 18, 2020 |
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Stoner Sloth posted:good viruses on both sides lmao |
# ? Jun 18, 2020 20:10 |
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I’m glad to see people trying to talk this out to figure out a good solution in a positive way. FWIW my vote would be a byop thread in cccc. We could have a sticky thread in byob titled “COME TO THIS THREAD TO TALK ABOUT POLITICS” and the only thing in there would be a link to the cccc thread. Then it would be less hidden but still separate. The concern I have in general about a thread in byob, and to a lesser degree in cccc, is that although I’ll bet we all generally agree on the big drama things going on right now, once you open the convo up, there will be disagreements. Calm polite disagreement can be fine and healthy. Grudge inducing screaming matches will likely bleed over to byob in general. I’d hate to endanger the community we have built here. To that point, maybe we try byop on a trial basis and see how it goes?
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# ? Jun 19, 2020 14:04 |
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having it in cccc with a stickied link seems... not ideal but better than nothing having it in cccc without a stickied link would just be trying to sweep things under the rug imo
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biosterous posted:having it in cccc with a stickied link seems... not ideal but better than nothing this, still going with my earlier vote (if there is one) but if we go the cccc route, would it be possible to make it like provisional so that if after a couple of months there isn't any trouble we consider just making it a normal part of BYOB but with a "possibly unchill stuff" warning? still think that we should trust our community to be able to deal with it, sometimes trying to be too protective of something isn't good and stifles improvement. also just think it's worth not trying to be escapist when serious stuff is happening, better to just go with the flow a little and work with it by allowing a space for people to talk about what is on their mind and what is happening in their life - obviously that'd need careful balancing to prevent chaos but maybe that is worth it? i dunno, throwing out suggestions here |
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also if we're going to be the 'chill inclusive place' then surely that should mean giving a voice to folk who face greater exclusion than others, without active effort to give a space for people who might not be feeling comfortable right now then they tend to get pushed out and if we do a CCCC thing are people going to want to post in it? plus part of the reason it might seem like... dunno... dismissive or a double standard?... is that we managed to find a compromise on COVID threads despite them stressing folk out and handled that fine, why not one to dedicated to other similarly "controversial" stuff at least as a space to vent? again just some thoughts, i'll shut up and let others talk for a change - for reals this time!! |
# ? Jun 19, 2020 15:00 |
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a reminder that the humble beginnings of this thread was that it was a twisted metal joke
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# ? Jun 19, 2020 15:04 |
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Slumpy posted:a reminder that the humble beginnings of this thread was that it was a twisted metal joke i wish it still was
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# ? Jun 19, 2020 15:05 |
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I've got a "sweet tooth" for some more twisted metal apocalypse humor
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prepuce repurposed posted:i wish it still was this has all just been Calypso granting your wish after you won the tournament! |
# ? Jun 19, 2020 15:10 |
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Every time someone accuses byob of "ignoring politics" or escapism or hiding their head in the sand or what have you, I find it personally insulting because I do a lot of politics irl and so do a lot of other posters here. We just keep it out of byob. Many yobbers have their head fully out of the sand and are even actively working to terraform the sand into a better shape, and claiming otherwise just because we don't talk about it here is kind of insulting. It's not like byob encompasses my entire existence. Not trying to come down on you SS as I know you are coming from a good place, but it's something I've heard before from people outside of byob and I guess my frustration with that claim is boiling over. Stoner Sloth posted:if we do a CCCC thing are people going to want to post in it? That's up to the people who are asking for a place to talk about politics with their yobber crew! Honestly cccc is a good fit. Threads that go to CCCC tend to have a crew (hence the name), and many of them were considered kind of off-topic for their home forum, but the thread itself was nice, so it got moved to cccc. Here the crew is byob regulars, the topic that is off for byob is politics. We can put a link to it next to the no politics rule in the rules thread and also temporarily make a sticky telling people about it, since people don't regularly read the rules thread. SS would you want to IK it? Or anyone else?
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# ? Jun 19, 2020 15:32 |
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Slumpy posted:a reminder that the humble beginnings of this thread was that it was a twisted metal joke I feel increasingly bad for hijacking it, but I also do not want to kill talk now by closing it nor create a full new thread right now. We will tell you about what we want to do soon! Sorry for the delay, but al is currently quite busy with moving.
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# ? Jun 19, 2020 15:33 |
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Going on the record as being vehemently opposed to stashing something so important in an "out of site, out of mind" place so that people benefiting from the system don't have to feel uncomfortable.
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# ? Jun 19, 2020 16:37 |
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If byob is so much of your life that cutting politics out of it is tantamount to cutting politics out of your life, you should probably take a break from byob There will not be a politics thread in byob proper |
# ? Jun 19, 2020 16:51 |
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calypso is a libertarian
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# ? Jun 19, 2020 16:56 |
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warthog is probably a neo-liberal after all the poo poo he went through in his vietnam backstory
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# ? Jun 19, 2020 16:57 |
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Slumpy posted:calypso is a libertarian He's trying to teach people a lesson by punishing them for expecting help from others |
# ? Jun 19, 2020 16:58 |
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political compass alignment chart for all twisted metal characters About 1,310,000 results (0.66 seconds) slumpy |
# ? Jun 19, 2020 16:59 |
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Speaking of setting boundaries, working from home is corrupting my chill posting station with non-chill work stress energy. Need some tips for how to align crystals to decontaminate.
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vanisher posted:Speaking of setting boundaries, working from home is corrupting my chill posting station with non-chill work stress energy. Need some tips for how to align crystals to decontaminate. only phone post this is why i don't own a computer. sitting at a desk always feels like work 2 me
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# ? Jun 19, 2020 17:32 |
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smoke weed and play counter strike
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# ? Jun 19, 2020 17:32 |
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I shouldn't read byob early in the morning
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Six-Of-Hearts posted:Going on the record as being vehemently opposed to stashing something so important in an "out of site, out of mind" place so that people benefiting from the system don't have to feel uncomfortable. Yeah, I'm sorry I brought up the idea. I already recanted but it was too late. My main point here was that I personally didn't think anything crossed a line that was worthy of being admonished by the mods in the first place. If it did, then clarification of the politics rule is needed to include "all hot-button topics" as mentioned by alnilam. And if that happens, then we shouldn't make jabs at capitalism which al said was ok, or make fun of Trump's verbal gaffes as GaG said we could. That brings me to a larger point regarding what I see as the best thing for byob to be: a pure comedy workshop that doesnt rely on punching down (racism, sexism, prejudice, othering, etc.)or grabbing low-hanging fruit such as making fun of any sitting president. And I think that's p.much what we've got here. It makes comedy harder, and better imo |
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Slumpy posted:a reminder that the humble beginnings of this thread was that it was a twisted metal joke vanisher posted:Speaking of setting boundaries, working from home is corrupting my chill posting station with non-chill work stress energy. Need some tips for how to align crystals to decontaminate. while you are working, get out a little statue or action figure and treat it like your boss. under its watchful gaze you must work because it will know if you're slacking and fire you. when it's time to chill put it away in a drawer or whatever. it can't see you anymore, now you can chill
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The no politics rule stays as it is, which includes no hot-button topics, and there will not be a politics thread within BYOB. We could do a BYOP thread in CCCC, where people can talk politics with a yobber crew. It's unclear if many people actually want one - even the original idea-haver isn't so sure. If you want such a thing, please PM me or GaG so we can get an idea of whether it should actually be made, because if only 2-3 people are interested then there's no point. Let's not have any further discussion of this itt, I think GaG and I have said as much as can be said and lots of people have weighed in and at this point it's clear there's some disagreement but it's not going to go anywhere. If you really must continue to discuss this, feel free to take it to PMs or QCS. Let's please get this thread back to the topic of twisted metal.
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alnilam posted:Let's not have any further discussion of this itt. Let's please get this thread back to the topic of twisted metal. what does it look like i'm trying to do here boss. i demand a twisted metal/plague joke
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