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I think the thing that makes sense and the thing that is most likely is that all leagues and cups and everything are put on hold until they're safe to resume behind closed doors, even if that means a drastically curtailed match schedule all crammed into like four weeks. If it's safe to resume in June, do it in June. If it's safe to resume in October, do it in October. If the safe-resumption date is late enough that it cuts into next season, then negotiate a way to hold a shortened next season that everyone can agree on. But I think this is the only way to do it that's fair to everybody, because it means not messing with champions/promotion/relegation/European qualification, and it means having a format for next season that everyone agrees on after resolving this season as best possible, instead of a format for next season imposed arbitrarily by stopping the season now or voiding it and cutting the legs out from under teams like Leicester and Wolves and Liverpool and Leeds.
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CyberPingu posted:Tell me how the FA saying right now that voiding the season stops people dying? The thought of the amount of laffin I may yet get to do would certainly keep me going a bit longer
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hadji murad posted:but helps keep public safety and health So does suspending until further notice.
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CyberPingu posted:And how does voiding the season stop that exactly? Any attempt to not void the season will lead to games being played before it is safe to do so. And you know this, but refuse to acknowledge it. Accepting that it's done and over is the safest course of action.
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what i think we should do is rig old trafford with high explosives and shoot slur asslix turdburgalarson with high powered sniper rifles
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Mar 13, 2020 15:23
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CyberPingu posted:And how does voiding the season stop that exactly? Please tell me you're not really this dumb and are playing along because if you can't see how just stopping football and thus the mass gatherings (either inside or outside a closed stadium when a match is being played or in pubs across the country) saves lives then jesus loving christ, dude.
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CyberPingu posted:So does suspending until further notice. I’m suspending this conversation until further notice, cyber dingus. Good night.
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Bundy posted:Please tell me you're not really this dumb and are playing along because if you can't see how just stopping football and thus the mass gatherings (either inside or outside a closed stadium when a match is being played or in pubs across the country) saves lives then jesus loving christ, dude. I never said it would.
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vyelkin posted:I think the thing that makes sense and the thing that is most likely is that all leagues and cups and everything are put on hold until they're safe to resume behind closed doors, even if that means a drastically curtailed match schedule all crammed into like four weeks. If it's safe to resume in June, do it in June. If it's safe to resume in October, do it in October. If the safe-resumption date is late enough that it cuts into next season, then negotiate a way to hold a shortened next season that everyone can agree on. But I think this is the only way to do it that's fair to everybody, because it means not messing with champions/promotion/relegation/European qualification, and it means having a format for next season that everyone agrees on after resolving this season as best possible, instead of a format for next season imposed arbitrarily by stopping the season now or voiding it and cutting the legs out from under teams like Leicester and Wolves and Liverpool and Leeds.
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Vegetable posted:This makes the most sense to me. If the current season does cut into the next, they could probably go to the extent of cancelling the FA Cup or League Cup to ensure there's enough time to finish the next season. they shouldn't cancel competitions to allow for other competitions. Running out of time is running out of time. edit, considering this is already the me responding to bad ideas thread:  loving hell Chuff McNothing fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Mar 13, 2020 |
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Mar 13, 2020 15:36
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CyberPingu posted:I never said it would. 
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Mar 13, 2020 15:37
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#voidtheleague void every competition, replay it "next" season anyone who complains gets the gently caress off people are dying response
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I never said that stopping football is all they need to do to stop people dying. My whole point is that at this current point, on March 13th 2020, their is no reason for the FA to come out and say that all leagues are voided. As it gives them little recourse. Postponing the leagues makes most sense as A) All play stops anyway so you are keeping the players and public safe, B) It allows them to continuously reassess the situation until it is deemed safe. If we are still in the same situation come July/August. Then you re-assess and probably cancel everything.
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Void the league is the only sensible course of action. In the meantime, a comprehensive review of VAR can be undertaken to ensure Liverpool arent the recipients of biased VAR decisions
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lol that this happened right before liverpool were crowned champions anwyay its still mathematically possible for newcastle to get into the champions league so shouldn't be excluded from considering for that
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CyberPingu posted:I never said that stopping football is all they need to do to stop people dying. I know that. You seem under the impression that voiding the league (as in ending it) won't do anything to save lives. I'm calling you an idiot if you genuinely believe that.
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I get that ideally you play all of the remaining matches, but if there isn't time for that I think it would be reasonable to play say 5 more matches to decide the season.
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Bundy posted:I know that. You seem under the impression that voiding the league (as in ending it) won't do anything to save lives. I'm calling you an idiot if you genuinely believe that. Hmm? No my point to that was voiding and suspending at this point do the exact same thing. Voiding doesnt save more lives that suspending does.
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:I get that ideally you play all of the remaining matches, but if there isn't time for that I think it would be reasonable to play say 5 more matches to decide the season. Or just call the season as it is now 
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i think just resume the league whenever it is safeish to do so. even if that cuts into next year's season. then have a small break and start again.
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Here's another thing to consider: even though the euros are all but cancelled, playing more games later means players on bigger teams are going to be playing games without a break for more than a year straight. And no, I don't really consider this pause/cancellation a break as everyone's going to be all wound up mentally for a while.
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CyberPingu posted:Hmm? No my point to that was voiding and suspending at this point do the exact same thing. Voiding doesnt save more lives that suspending does. Which brings me neatly back to when do you propose we suspend until, given how long this is projected to be a problem for, and then what regarding next season's fixtures? CyberPingu posted:Or just call the season as it is now This has far more bias in it from a Liverpool perspective then any of my suggestions do as a scouse hater. I'm pretty sure none of the league positions are mathematically decided, certainly not the ones that have actual consequences. Starting over is far more equitable than assuming that "as things stand" is "as things will be".
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CyberPingu posted:Or just call the season as it is now which is exactly the same as voiding it as no positions have been confirmed yet.
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Bundy posted:Which brings me neatly back to when do you propose we suspend until, given how long this is projected to be a problem for, and then what regarding next season's fixtures? Its totally biased, but its just as fair as voiding. Its just fair for different teams
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Chuff McNothing posted:which is exactly the same as voiding it as no positions have been confirmed yet. No as you take the current table as a "finished" league table, which is just as fair as voiding, just for different teams.
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simulate the rest of the season in your preferred sporting video game (i.e. the one that pays the most for the privilege), stream it online so that fans have something to watch and sponsors have something to stick advertisements on
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Gigi Galli posted:Here's another thing to consider: even though the euros are all but cancelled, playing more games later means players on bigger teams are going to be playing games without a break for more than a year straight. And no, I don't really consider this pause/cancellation a break as everyone's going to be all wound up mentally for a while. it's going to suck for some players until after the world cup 2022, but i think that is up to themselves and their teams to manage. if anything has to adapt, it is the schedule.
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CyberPingu posted:Its totally biased, but its just as fair as voiding. Its just fair for different teams It's "fair" for maybe 3 teams. Voiding is fair to 91.
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Bundy posted:It's "fair" for maybe 3 teams. Voiding is fair to 92. man u fans always going on about 92
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vyelkin posted:man u fans always going on about 92 Now fixed typo but what?
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id love to see the season voided, but i dont think it is the most fair
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Bundy posted:Now fixed typo but what? It’s a weak rear end Class of 92 burn
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Bea Nanner posted:it's going to suck for some players until after the world cup 2022, but i think that is up to themselves and their teams to manage. if anything has to adapt, it is the schedule. Yeah I agree it's down to them and their clubs to manage, but it will be funny when the Qatar WC is full of guys who just want to take a nap. I mentioned this somewhere, but imagine whole teams of Alexis Sanchez after he had to play for like 20 months straight due to the idiocy of CONMEBOL scheduling.
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Gigi Galli posted:Yeah I agree it's down to them and their clubs to manage, but it will be funny when the Qatar WC is full of guys who just want to take a nap. I mentioned this somewhere, but imagine whole teams of Alexis Sanchez after he had to play for like 20 months straight due to the idiocy of CONMEBOL scheduling. Worth remembering that Qatar 2022 is supposed to take place in November-December, so players could presumably take a summer break beforehand. Doesn't stop the fact some of them would have played like 20 months straight immediately beforehand with the Euros in 2021 though.
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i wouldnt mind seeing leagues raise the squad or loan cap for a season to help with the tight schedule
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Animal Crossing comes out next Friday. The order of the table is determined by the order in which each team completes the museum. This is fair to Liverpool IMO as obviously Milner will win.
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CyberPingu posted:No as you take the current table as a "finished" league table, which is just as fair as voiding, just for different teams. why would you do that when everyone has played completely incompatible seasons?
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People are dying right now and still this thread is open.
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CyberPingu posted:No as you take the current table as a "finished" league table, which is just as fair as voiding, just for different teams. Even ignoring relegation and promotion, difference in prize money for 6th vs 12th or 12th vs 17th was like £10 million last year, which is not nothing for a mid table club. Pretending like Spurs wouldn't keep sliding down the table with their current injury crisis or that Arsenal wouldn't close the season with 10 straight wins is not fair even if all it affects is prize money.
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