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You're not listening. If we don't lunch today, two Town die anyway, because tomorrow we have to assume it's 6-4 and no-lunch again, at which point a second Town dies anyway. If we lunch today, worst case is it's 5-4 tomorrow. Best case is 6-3. If we no-lunch, it's guaranteed that we end up 5-4 on D5 regardless. You're effectively advocating for the idea of guaranteeing ourselves the worst case scenario if we don't give you the lunch you want. Which is the first really scummy thing I've seen from you this game, but it's almost too blatant.
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Yeah, I agree that it's actually pro-Town for Sandwolf to use his ability at this point. And, since our numbers are dwindling, every Townie to attack unless they've got something super important to do.
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Mar 25, 2020 02:07
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Mate I've suggested we all full claim to give town better odds of finding scum. I agree to disagree on no-lynch. Find me 100% confirmed scum and I'll vote them The risk outweighs the reward atm
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Mar 25, 2020 02:07
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Speaking of no lunch, my break is over. Will be around for deadline regardless. - Voting no lynch - Sandwolf should use the trap ability tonight. - heavily suggesting people full claim for night action mafia. - will be forcing it through tomorrow
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Mar 25, 2020 02:09
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If we no-lynch, what is your plan tomorrow, when it's 6-4? No lynch again? Then it's 5-4. What's your plan at that point? No lynch again because you still don't have 100% confirmed Scum? Why not just Mona out of here if you want to surrender without playing the loving game?
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Mar 25, 2020 02:10
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Infinitum posted:I'm happy to vote today, but I feel it should be a target we are 100% convinced is scum pretty sure all he can do is prevent draws? and i don't have much against an ASF vote i have no read and he was on both lunches
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Mar 25, 2020 02:12
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xopods posted:Why not just Mona out of here if you want to surrender without playing the loving game? Sorry, I shouldn't say this. Obviously I don't recommend anyone breaks the rules to get themselves kicked out of a game. I'm just finding it hard to believe that anyone could fail to understand why no-lynching at LYLO minus 1 just because you don't know 100% who's Scum is blatantly terrible.
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Mar 25, 2020 02:13
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MY INEVITABLE DEBT posted:pretty sure all he can do is prevent draws? He means to leave everyone no choice but to attack by letting everyone know that drawing will be useless. It's kind of the wrong reason to tell Sandwolf to use his power, because most Town should want to attack anyway. There's not enough time for us to usefully draw spells. The real reason Sandwolf should use his power is to prevent Scum from drawing while we're attacking. Though now that you point it out, it does sound a bit like Infi is looking at this from the Scum perspective. Between that and his insistence on no-lynching, which is basically suicidal for Town, I'm willing to vote him today.
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Mar 25, 2020 02:18
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Would anyone else here be interested in David Lunching infi? Or was Mona the only person left who thought he's scum.
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Mar 25, 2020 02:19
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xopods posted:Would anyone else here be interested in David Lunching infi? Or was Mona the only person left who thought he's scum. I am here for inf if sandwolf isn't an option
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Mar 25, 2020 02:21
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Also theoretically town should want to attack tonight, so if sandwolf is scum like I think he is, how would we know he actually used his ability? Some unlucky town WIFOM draws? This plan has holes in it
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Mar 25, 2020 02:24
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Squiggly posted:I am here for inf if sandwolf isn't an option i am too but only based on my initial read. i dont have much else at the moment
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Mar 25, 2020 02:24
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I could go Infi
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Mar 25, 2020 02:25
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Squiggly posted:Also theoretically town should want to attack tonight, so if sandwolf is scum like I think he is, how would we know he actually used his ability? Some unlucky town WIFOM draws? This plan has holes in it It doesn't matter, does it? Everyone without some potentially game-winning role to use should be attacking regardless. If Sandwolf is Town, he should use his power because no Townies will be drawing. If he's Scum, then whatever, we're all Attacking anyway. I don't see a flaw with the plan, as everyone who isn't Sandwolf is doing the same thing either way, and Sandwolf will stick to the plan if he's Town and not stick to any plan we make if he isn't.
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Mar 25, 2020 02:27
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Squiggly posted:Also theoretically town should want to attack tonight, so if sandwolf is scum like I think he is, how would we know he actually used his ability? Some unlucky town WIFOM draws? This plan has holes in it is it better than no plan? I get your plan is to lunch me but work with me
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Mar 25, 2020 02:27
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Everyone turns into posty mcpostpost when I'm busy, jeez So uh, what happened to Mona? I have a lot to catch up on, apparently
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Mar 25, 2020 02:27
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Alright, well that's four votes for Infi which is more than anyone else has got at the moment. ##vote Infi
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Mar 25, 2020 02:28
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I really don’t like flerp dodging this but I’ll support infi
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Mar 25, 2020 02:29
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Sandwolf posted:I could go Infi ................................................................ i want this............................................................................... I have a splitting head ache and quarantine is stressing me out more than I thought it would. Here's the thing about infini, he claimed a pro town sounding role because it can stop scum kill and also contribute to town battle victories, but also claimed it after his action failed 2 nights in a row. Couldn't he just be claiming to give him an excuse not to participate in night action math/be faking being blocked? If you had a pro town role like that why would you claim it for no reason other than to give scum an excuse to block you for the rest of the game? Claiming all the night actions won't really help either would it? wouldn't scum just claim to attack.
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Mar 25, 2020 02:30
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##vote infinitum
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Mar 25, 2020 02:31
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Sandwolf posted:I really don’t like flerp dodging this but I’ll support infi I don't like it either, but we've got several people missing and one who insists on voting for a no-lunch at a time when we really have to lunch. If we go to 5-4 it's not strictly speaking game over, but realistically, I can't see four successful lunches in a row when a single Townie casting a single wrong vote at any point loses the game instantly.
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Mar 25, 2020 02:32
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##vote infi might not be around for deadline but it seems like we're going this direction and that's fine
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Mar 25, 2020 02:33
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Toalpaz posted:Couldn't he just be claiming to give him an excuse not to participate in night action math/be faking being blocked? I do not believe this is the case, but if he is scum and sandwolf isn't, his role is not like he's describing or is entirely different
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Mar 25, 2020 02:34
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##vote infintum
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Mar 25, 2020 02:36
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Ugh. Now that you're bringing my attention to it again, I realize that Infi claiming early and wanting everyone else to do it is sort of consistent with his rationale for wanting to no-lunch, in that he somehow thinks we're going to solve this game from claims and night actions. Based on my experience with Mafia and what we've seen of the setup so far, I'd wager that's 100% not a plan that's going to work. But he might genuinely believe it. I wish we could do ASF or flerp, but between people not being here and Infi refusing to vote someone I don't know what choice we have.
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Mar 25, 2020 02:41
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I am not going to kill flerp. I agree with most of what he's posted and do not find him scummy I will do ASF hammer only to avoid no lunch but vastly prefer inf or sandwolf
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Mar 25, 2020 02:42
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Hmm a lot of votes for Infi suddenly and none despite me pushing on flerp all day, weird
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Mar 25, 2020 02:43
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Sandwolf posted:Hmm a lot of votes for Infi suddenly and none despite me pushing on flerp all day, weird flerp looks town
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Mar 25, 2020 02:43
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The way this game's going I'm not going to be surprised if it turns out it's just me talking to a bunch of scumbos right now while most of the Town is AFK, except one guy who's forcing me to vote him by refusing to participate in the lunch.
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Mar 25, 2020 02:47
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Votecount for Day 3  Infinitum (4): MY INEVITABLE DEBT, Toalpaz, flerp (2): xopods, Sandwolf, Amnistar, Sandwolf (1): Infinitum, MY INEVITABLE DEBT, Squiggly, flerp, A Sometimes Food (1): Jen X, Toalpaz, Amnistar, Lynch No One! (1): Infinitum Jen X (0): Amnistar, Not Voting (2): A Sometimes Food, chaoslordWith 11 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is March 24th, 2020 at 11 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 hour, 12 minutes. Starting day 2 if you don't have more posts than me by the end of the day there will be anti lurker mechanics activated.
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Mar 25, 2020 02:47
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Toalpaz posted:flerp looks town By what stretch of the imagination!
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Mar 25, 2020 02:47
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oh apparently we still have an hour, I will probably forget about this game by then infinitum is weird but I don't like the immediate "yeah sounds good" I actually want to ##vote Toalpaz if we're not gonna execute ASF
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Mar 25, 2020 02:55
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Still four pages behind and not feeling good about catching up with how otherwise distracted I am. See Inf is at -2 so I'll vote there if need be, but I see multiple people have brought up ASF, can someone repost the case on that?
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Mar 25, 2020 03:01
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I'm at work so can't defend myself other than a sneak phone message. I'm town, I've been honest about my actions. This is 100% scum taking me off the board
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Mar 25, 2020 03:17
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Toalpaz is less scummy to me than some of the other options, plus doesn't seem to have anyone else pushing for him. At this point I'd vote for anyone to avoid a no-lynch though. I'd probably even hammer myself if it came to it. Slord's right that several people have been saying they prefer ASF to Infi or whoever. How many people could we get for him? I'm in obviously since I've been calling for him since D1.
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Mar 25, 2020 03:18
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My ability can stop the NK from happening. Scum wants me gone
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Mar 25, 2020 03:18
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Infinitum posted:My ability can stop the NK from happening. Yeah, but you want to no-lynch so what would that even buy us? We'd start D4 exactly where we are now in that case.
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Mar 25, 2020 03:20
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xopods posted:Yeah, but you want to no-lynch so what would that even buy us? We'd start D4 exactly where we are now in that case. Legit not in a position to defend myself atm as I'm between meetings. Me having opinion on the vote doesn't stop vote happening. If I had to list who I feel are scum. Flerp, jenx, xopods. They are gut reads and I cannot produce a case arm. I'm going into a meeting now and can't respond. You pushing this is scummy as hell.
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Votecount for Day 3 Infinitum (4): MY INEVITABLE DEBT, Toalpaz, flerp (2): xopods, Sandwolf, Amnistar, Toalpaz (1): Jen X Sandwolf (1): Infinitum, MY INEVITABLE DEBT, Squiggly, flerp, Lynch No One! (1): Infinitum Jen X (0): Amnistar, A Sometimes Food (0): Jen X, Toalpaz, Amnistar, Not Voting (2): A Sometimes Food, chaoslord With 11 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is March 24th, 2020 at 11 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 31 minutes. Starting day 2 if you don't have more posts than me by the end of the day there will be anti lurker mechanics activated.
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Well this sucks
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