Insurance.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 11:20 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 19:05 |
But, I love this series, and it seriously deals with some incredibly heavy poo poo, and not just 'for a teen series'. It's far better than it has any right to be.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 19:41 |
I get that they needed to establish things quickly, but man... those question sessions are just painful
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 13:25 |
It comes along a little further on, I forget if it's in Marco's first or second book, but there's an amazing depiction of impotent rage. Seriously, this series gets deep.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2020 08:51 |
Visser Three would have made a great villain if there were maybe five books. Because there are so many he just winds up looking totally ineffective, but he really does have some great moments.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2020 02:50 |
Soup du Jour posted:He does wind up kinda overused, if there were more mid-tier yeerks beyond Chapman (yeah I know there are some Taylor, Tom’s second Yeerk, the helicopter grannybut LORD Chapman’s Yeerk is doing so much heavy lifting) it probably would have helped prevent his mystique from fading some as the series progressed. If it wasn't for the fact that the Animorphs had time to evolve from scared teenagers into an effective guerilla force, I think you can pretty safely say that his shock and awe style invasion would probably have worked. he might not have gotten everyone, and it certainly would have provoked more Andalite intervention, but they wouldn't have stopped him getting a great deal of soldiers.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2020 06:32 |
Does the one woman they rescued ever get mentioned again, or is it just kinda left there? I'm assuming she almost immediately gets merced as a threat, the Yeerks must surely have some idea of who is who
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2020 14:29 |
I think these little interludes really sell the characters. Because I mean... what else would a bunch of kids do but morph birds and fly around?
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2020 04:15 |
They are being hard on her, yes, but... she took an unbelievably stupid risk that could have resulted in all of them going down. It'd be bad enough if she got wasted, but if she'd been captured instead, welp, series ends on book two.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2020 13:54 |
I'd also like to point out that Chapman and Tom are completely useless. Chapman saw something that clearly raised his eyebrows, and Tom brought Jake AND Rachel to a Sharing meeting with the intention of wasting them if necessary... and they fail to act on the obvious connection. It probably wouldn't hold up in court, but the pieces are all there. They're known associates, they were in the area (if not identified), and known to go through the construction site... Just gank them and be done with it. You
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2020 13:59 |
Daikloktos posted:When Visser One first infests a human she's amazed to find that each brain hemisphere is a different personality communicating across a bundle of nerves no thicker than her own true body I'm actually reading the Visser book at the moment. Ax is right when he refers to her as brilliant and dangerous. If she had been leading the invasion, it would have been over before they knew what had hit them. She is an absolute monster.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2020 11:00 |
It's pretty well done, honestly. There are just enough hints of the greater universe.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2020 14:29 |
Silver2195 posted:This strikes me as untrue, but I'll admit that so far he isn't as impetuous as my childhood memories of him. Or maybe he was just written as less intelligent in some of the ghostwritten books. I think at this point, despite minor setbacks, he is still relatively in control of himself. Once the guerilla war starts to really hurt him, his rage comes to the forefront.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2020 21:12 |
Grammarchist posted:I might have missed it, but what happened to the woman they rescued at the end of the first book? Not sure how a former host would react to freedom, knowing that they're powerless and a witness to an impossible conspiracy. She's never mentioned again, make up your own story I say she got merced, her former Yeerk could tell exactly where she lives, her habits etc
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2020 21:26 |
cptn_dr posted:De-railing into Harry Potter slightly, the Dumbledore being gay thing did actually have a fair bit of subtextual support, and I think at the time the general reaction from fans was something like "oh yeah, that makes sense", it's just everything else JKR has done since that's clearly made-up post hoc for ally points. I was raised by a lesbian mother, so spent a lot of my formative years around her gay and lesbian friends, and I absolutely, 100% picked Dumbledore as gay. I figured it was never made explicit because it honestly isn't important for his character. He'd be who he is regardless of who he is into, but all the hints were there, particularly his relationship with Grindelwald.
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# ¿ May 7, 2020 02:10 |
I think a question gets posed by a character soon, which in my opinion defines the entire series. "How far into savagery do you go to defeat the savage?" The answer for all bar one, is as far as you have to. Was Cassie wrong to give the Yeerks the morphing box? From a tactical perspective, yes. Absolutely. It was just about the worst possible thing she could have done. But, and I doubt I'll ever see this any other way, it was the right call. That single act was her rejecting what the others were becoming. Jake all but destroyed himself, as shown post-war. Rachel died fighting. Cassie didn't want to be the savage anymore. She tried to walk away once in the series as it was, and I think she understood that the Yeerks were not a monolithic, evil entity. They were just scared little slugs knowing they were at the mercy of anyone and everyone that had actual bodies. She gave them a way out, and she kept her humanity. This is incredibly heavy poo poo for a supposed children's series.
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# ¿ May 13, 2020 07:48 |
ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:Except giving the Yeerks the cube is tactically the smartest thing to do because it short circuits the whole reason for the war in the first place. The Yeerks engage in wars of conquest because they need hosts, and with the morphing power that entire motivation is rendered unnecessary. That's a strategic shift though. It makes their immediate situation much worse because now they are fighting against morph-capable Controllers.
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# ¿ May 13, 2020 16:17 |
TWO SECONDS uh elfangor that seems kinda short RUN YOU DUMMIES THE VISSER WILL BE HERE ANY MILLENIUM
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# ¿ May 15, 2020 09:53 |
I don't see how you make a book serial into a film
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# ¿ May 16, 2020 00:54 |
cptn_dr posted:I reckon my ideal would be a three season TV show. 10 or so episodes per season, ditch the filler, and you've got a solid show right there. poo poo, you're pretty much on the money first ten books, second ten books, the megamorphs specials (except maybe the crazy as poo poo what if the andalite never arrived one) and the chronicles specials as double episodes or something, then the final ten books i'm sold
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# ¿ May 16, 2020 02:57 |
Epicurius posted:The Invasion-Chapter 13 The funny thing is, when I read this as a kid it seemed like a plausible idea. Get sucked up, break loose, wreak havoc. As an adult who works on ships for a living... well, assuming you could get into the tanks without being shredded by the pumps, you would never get out. Tanks are sealed from the outside and unless you're one of those ultra-rare plasma cutter fish, welp. But don't tell Jake this, dude's got hella moxie.
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# ¿ May 17, 2020 01:48 |
The yeerks are guerillas being attacked by gorillas
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# ¿ May 17, 2020 12:26 |
Khizan posted:The part that gets me is that they never realize here that, while the Yeerks may have some difficulty infesting Earth by stealth right now, they could almost certainly take Earth over by force quite easily. Anybody with that level of technology has the ability to just sit in orbit and hammer Earth with kinetic energy weapons until Earth gives up, and there's nothing Earth could do about it. It's not really touched on now, but I think it's made clear later that if the Yeerks go loud, tipping their hand about what they're trying to do, the Andalites bring their whole fleet. I guess the Andalites don't really do the whole military intelligence thing though, because surely a halfway competent leadership structure would see this big fat juicy target and go ".....yeah, we should probably guard that." Oh god. They're just as dumb as us.
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# ¿ May 17, 2020 12:34 |
MrNemo posted:I'm reading this thread because I just about remember animorphs from a trip to the States when I was a kid. It caught my attention purely because the covers kind kind of like goosebumps and the Mighty Morphing power rangers were on television in the UK (might be misremembering that bit). I never actually did read them but something about the title kind of stuck in my head. Apparently she actually wanted to write a young adult series about what it would be like to be animals and she went what would make that possible and it basically grew from there
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# ¿ May 20, 2020 02:51 |
Those two things go together about as well as cowboys fighting on horseback and spaceships, and yet, firefly
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# ¿ May 20, 2020 02:57 |
Marco probably loved how far ahead of everyone else Palpatine was
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# ¿ May 20, 2020 20:04 |
nine-gear crow posted:That's part about what I love about Visser Three. The dude has the ultimate infiltration, subterfuge, and espionage ability at his disposal, and through a combination of ego and idiocy insists on being as absolutely blatant as possible. And the one time he DOES try to do any kind of morphing skullduggery, he's outted instantly because he can't sell an act for poo poo. Are you referencing Tobias's fake cousin
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# ¿ May 24, 2020 04:07 |
i do like the analogy of a torpedo bomber
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# ¿ May 25, 2020 02:05 |
Oh god, incompetent henchmen shooting their own ship is just precious
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# ¿ May 26, 2020 09:28 |
Yes, and it's telling when late in the game, Cassie says to him "we still need you," when hes borderline catatonic, because she knows that's the only thing that will reach him
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# ¿ May 26, 2020 22:00 |
disaster pastor posted:Another underestimated aspect of the series: I feel like any other elementary-school-audience author would have given the kids one successful plan in the first three books. Here, nope, this is a helplessly hosed situation and the best they can do is still well short of success. If you look at it from the Visser's perspective, his otherwise pretty successful invasion is getting stinging pinpricks. No serious blows, but for a third time he's been unable to pin down the culprits.
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# ¿ May 27, 2020 22:49 |
Forget that, I want to talk to whoever manufactures the vacuum pumps for the Yeerks because goddrat that thing works
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# ¿ May 27, 2020 23:21 |
Wait Hang on Tobias mentions only a few feet between the ship and the water's surface Vacuum alone (which it has to be since they don't get mulched by pumps) can only lift through 9m loving A+ Applegate
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# ¿ May 27, 2020 23:29 |
I still have this saved on my phone, I'm not entirely sure when I got it
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# ¿ May 28, 2020 18:31 |
Elfangor picked up Americana pretty quick, homeboy rolled around in his mustang listening to the stones and chugging doctor pepper
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# ¿ May 28, 2020 22:31 |
I specifically recall it being honky tonk blues
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# ¿ May 28, 2020 23:35 |
Not to mention existing authority figures are shown to be infiltrated - police, their high school - their decision to go on hit and runs makes a lot more sense
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# ¿ May 31, 2020 07:11 |
Huh. Yup, she looks very Cassie.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2020 00:10 |
Many good Cassie books on both sides
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2020 00:30 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 19:05 |
The worst book is the Rachel starfish book I will die on this hill
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2020 18:01 |