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I like that they used up all the impressive morphs by the end of the series so when poo poo starts heating up towards the finale the covers are like duck, beaver
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Oh man, I forgot there was a pool entrance in the school. "One Happy Meal with extra happy!"
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Apr 2, 2020 02:08
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Marco not wanting to get in the fight is one thing, but what kid wouldn't immediately try out morphing? Wolf. Real help there, Cassie
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Apr 4, 2020 17:26
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It sucks they alternated between Tobias and Ax each cycle, thinking kids wanted to read about fellow kids I always thought the hawk situation was partially a way to write a homeless kid without quite broaching that uncomfortable reality.
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Apr 12, 2020 09:23
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"Absolute", no, and neither that use of "skanky"
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Apr 15, 2020 23:31
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Cythereal posted:I'd assume that this is also the obstacle to morphing into another human. It would probably be like deliberately inviting an extremely nasty form of disassocative identity disorder on yourself.
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Apr 22, 2020 08:36
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nine-gear crow posted:A legitimate human/Yeerk cooperative alliance would be honest to god terrifying because they’re functional the same thing in their ability to just rip through stuff like a buzz saw in terms of expansion and cooption. Oh, and of course - the Isk and the Yoort, and The Ellimist's whole play to get the Yeerks to understand the value of cooperation by preserving them. I think the Yeerks could be satisfied running a ruthless galaxy-spanning merchant empire if they ever had reason to understand the concept. But they're a young race and when you compare everything the Isk homeworld implies, this whole region of space is kind of a backwater
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May 8, 2020 22:08
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It's also why trying to do Animorphs in live-action was and is doomed to failure. You need kid actors, dangerous animals, and convincing alien effects? It could really only be done in animation unless you get a blockbuster budget.
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May 20, 2020 08:49
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Epicurius posted:So does Visser Three just micromanage everything? Like, does he feel the need to do that?
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May 24, 2020 03:21
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Hork Bajir have better vision than humans? I don't know that that tracks, though I guess the Arn could have juiced then any which way
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May 26, 2020 18:06
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ENEMIES EVERYWHERE posted:I just finished book 8 and boy howdy I understand they're just kids and it's hard to murder someone face-to-face, but NOT killing the Andalite that is Visser Three's host body when he was lying there begging them for death is simultaneously the single most cruel and strategically terrible thing they've ever done
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Jun 13, 2020 03:39
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Tree Bucket posted:Hang on, any ship that spends more than three days away from port can be guaranteed Yeerk-free, right?
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Jun 15, 2020 03:37
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biracial bear for uncut posted:ACAB, though. Also the books don't mention it much, but don't forget Cassie's background and that these books took place in the US.
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Jun 16, 2020 23:56
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quote:<There are only three races left in all the known galaxy that still fight the Yeerks,> Ax said proudly. <And only the Andalites can stop them.> Avalerion posted:You'd think the yeerks would want to get away from how shity their home world is instead of turning everything into it.
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Jun 19, 2020 13:50
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"I was tired that day in class. And there was a female..." Wait I guess those should be angle brackets
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Jun 21, 2020 01:14
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:I think it's addressed in a later book that Tom actually joined the sharing (spoilers for what I'm pretty sure is book 6) to get closer to a girl he liked (who obviously ended up being a controller). An extremely teenager thing to do, honestly.
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Jun 21, 2020 03:32
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If a whale hits you hard enough do you impact the water behind you like it was a concrete wall similar to too high a fall?
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Jun 23, 2020 04:53
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Kchama posted:I mean I can see the reasoning why it's possible but also entirely useless outside this one single purpose of disguising as a non-specific person.
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Jun 24, 2020 07:04
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Somehow it took me a moment to parse it too, might just got munched in the formatting
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Jul 3, 2020 18:39
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How did Ax get the morphing power but never a single training morph, I forget. I know he was a stowaway but I thought he was finished with basic training (general later book spoilers)
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Jul 10, 2020 09:53
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disaster pastor posted:Spoilers for basically the entire drat series: He all but explicitly says that he pulled things together just right to have Tobias, Marco, Ax and Cassie be on "the team." It's a neat way to give a canon explanation to the "everything happens to these kids in this town" conceit. So we get to wonder what pieces Crayak played in response: i.e., would Chapman have been a Controller even if the Animorphs weren't attending his school, or was that Crayak's manipulation? Also did the Cassie thing play into the timetravelling Wrong Hitler book at all? That felt really tacked on. Did it... ever play out anywhere else? The Sario Rips? Daikloktos fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jul 13, 2020 |
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[spoilers all] The other big cosmological entity is The Time Matrix. It's said to have been created by The Ellimist by the Andalites, but it doesn't get mentioned in The Ellimist Chronicles at all. The Skrit Na dug it up from under the Pyramids, which the Chee (also not mentioned) had a hand in building. And I don't discount the Na as mindless in their pursuits.
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Jul 13, 2020 23:48
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The Chronicles are important prequel works with strong thematic and narrative ties to the series, while the Megamorphs books are more flashy headliner standalone stories. [spoilers all] I agree that the mythology gets way too crowded as the series drags on, when as this brief reread shows you don't need more than a few fundamental elements to tell compelling stories, even under these constraints. The Helmacrons and Nartec were obviously gag stories, like the Andalite toilet in Area 51 book where Marco maintains his horse disguise by looking a Controller dead in the eye and making GBS threads wildly. I really dug the Ellimist and Crayak stuff, but it probably wasn't necessary and certainly was not threaded in as effectively as might be hoped with the more central themes of the series. The Ellimist Chronicles really needed to be a thousand pages long and one of the first brickbuster kid books, for as much as you went in hoping would be addressed and doesn't remotely appear. I mean Brian Jacques was getting up there that same year, Taggerung could knock somebody out in hardback. But no mention of The Time Matrix or The Pemalites. Nothing on the revelations of Megamorphs 4, or some deep example of his circuitous game. Did Crayak create the Yeerks? Did he create the Capasins that destroyed the Ketran homeworld? They do bear a resemblance to the Howlers. So much of it is told in summary form that desperately needed expanding upon, and by that point having grown up with the series I'd have been ready for a cosmic Silmarillion experience, but, alas. Erek and the Chee were a way to give the Animorphs more agency to affect a more advanced conflict, and later books cast him almost in the role of their Q, or Inspector Gadget's boss, coming in to brief them on their next mission. But even this level of conflict wouldn't have been necessary. And again, it does rather dilute some of the most essential core themes to give them immortal robot dog allies
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Jul 14, 2020 06:46
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PetraCore posted:You also get full access to the medical records of your victims, so you can see if, say, there's diabetes or a heart murmur or any number of annoying things (that maybe might become more of a problem if they're struggling for control), or if they're healthy, strong, and in a good position to advance your agenda. he latter is especially useful to the Yeerks given they probably have low faculties of inference and need to directly absorb more obscure or esoteric modes of thought [spoilers all] but we have to wait until this book to wrap up before we can seriously discuss the Yeerk experience Daikloktos fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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Jul 16, 2020 21:13
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Avalerion posted:Maybe being a high schooler is actually fun for the yeerk? In a way anything must be better than being a useless slug.
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Jul 18, 2020 09:01
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nine-gear crow posted:Also Arnold Schwarzenegger is name dropped in one of the books coming up, and then two years after the series ended he ran for and became the governor of California.
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Jul 19, 2020 08:50
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drat, this thread got to fanfic recommendations before I could establish why "Animorphs: The Reckoning is Harry Potter And The Methods Of Rationality done right" is not a ridiculous sentence to type. The pithy emblematic thing I'll say is that it casts the transhumanist hyper-rationalist optimizer that was the protagonist of that work in Visser 3, and the kids are written as thoughtful human beings struggling with their own limitations. This is a series where the themes and subjects "rational fiction" (as descends from HPMOR) wants to explore are actually congruent to the original canon and for vast stretches it feels more like just thoughtful fanfic than anything written to a literary movement and its philosophies. You'll find virtually every aside we've explored in this thread fleshed out to fantastic depth - I imagine some of you have secretly read it, so please back me up
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Indeed, the disadvantage of fanfiction is authors of uneven skill only able to render part of what they're trying to achieve. The flaws you guys are picking out, legitimate ones, are probably especially due to the author coming from a more engineering background and only having written essays about Magic: The Gathering metastrategy before. Still, the flipside of fanfic is seeing these stories rearranged to bring different elements to the fore, even in structually flawed ways; I think it's worth it if you can put up with the writing style and literary aims. I mean this guy read the transhumanist rationality cult didactic Harry Potter fanfiction and felt inspired, don't let me oversell you on how little one can do to shade themselves away from that origin.Radio Free Kobold posted:on the other hand i noticed Sacred Host; i'm only about 7 chapters in but so far it seems to be a story about a young woman teaching yeerks about god. very very strange but also kinda cool.
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Jul 20, 2020 21:26
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:Yeah, as a teen I remember being VOCALLY repulsed by how gross it was that we had to SHOWER with other GUYS in gym class who wants to see that UGH will the trials of high school never end!
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Jul 22, 2020 03:48
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Ytlaya posted:I see that Rachel suffers from the same broken sales logic as my dad, where they seem to think that buying things on sale is the same as getting free money.
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Jul 24, 2020 04:09
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These are surprisingly tightly crafted books. I honestly didn't think this was a series that quite needed a Let's Read versus a regular remembrance thread but gently caress was I wrong
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Jul 24, 2020 19:25
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Epicurius posted:I have to be honest with you all. This will become a recurring gag. You will get sick of it.
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Jul 25, 2020 00:38
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There's a couple payoffs, here's the one I'm thinking of31 - The Conspiracy posted:We had to make him think he would be tortured. Moments earlier I would have killed him. Even now, I felt no pity for him. But that didn't change the fact that we were trying to terrify another living, sentient creature. #31 - The Conspiracy posted:I was tempted to continue holding Chapman and starve his Yeerk to death. Let the Yeerk Empire know that they were vulnerable, too. That we could be cruel enough to kill, when pushed far enough. The sick, dark anger inside of me wanted to. And had nearly tried, last night in rhino morph. #31 - The Conspiracy posted:<And he will return to his people a hero,> Ax said. <This will become an oft-repeated and much celebrated chapter in Yeerk history. My name will become legend, synonymous with ineptitude. A brutal fool of an Andalite.>
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Jul 25, 2020 05:08
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Epicurius posted:The Capture-Chapter 14
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Jul 27, 2020 04:15
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Epicurius posted:Sure, but then that raises more questions. If my happiness is dependent on making you suffer, am I justified in seeking happiness? 
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Jul 27, 2020 06:54
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SirSamVimes posted:I like how this doesn't do the usual thing of people taking ages to realise that someone's been taken over to manufacture drama. I guess a lot of kids media has to milk the surface of these kinds of situations because they won't, can't go as far.
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Jul 28, 2020 05:02
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Avalerion posted:Also the thing about not being able to imitate someone perfectly is really only an issue when the other person knows about yeerks. Even if your friend or family member begins acting weirdly out of character you are not gonna think they've been body snatched unless you already know that's a thing.
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Jul 28, 2020 06:29
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Skypie posted:I actually did not remember the yeerk showing Tom's memories. To me, that's equally horrifying - that this parasite can retain your memories and thoughts then play them back to a different host later. It can really just show you a string of broken people to break you It shows the potential for Yeerk symbiosis though, in teaching and therapy and...
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Jul 29, 2020 05:02
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I bet it would be really fascinating to see the different ways different people absorb different concepts from the inside, on a neurological level, and how the framework of their perceptions colours the way the integrate they same information etc. But those aren't the kinds of interests you develop waiting in a mudhole for some thirsty monkeys to wander by.
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Also can Yeerks communicate in the pool
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