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It's still wild that Casino Royale managed to get a faithful version of that torture scene into theatres under a PG-13 rating.
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2020 11:08 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 05:28 |
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chitoryu12, did you even saying what your favourite and least favourite Fleming bond books were in the old thread?
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2020 09:16 |
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chitoryu12 posted:I think my favorite would probably be Casino Royale. The action is more contained but it’s a very detailed, grounded book that plays on both Bond and the audience’s expectations about damsels in distress to hide the twist. If you had to rank the books from best to worst how would you do that?
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2020 05:41 |
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The problem with the whole such and such pulp hero is real and this is their true biography genre is that the writers can't resist pulping up the parts of their life not covered in the original texts whereas the conceit works better when they keep the new between adventures material grounded
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2020 00:39 |
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chitoryu12 posted:A few bits from this book actually ended up in the films. Silva would become the name of the extremely strange ex-MI6 villain played by Javier Bardem in Skyfall. I can't believe the movies lifted stuff like this but haven't adapted the Giant Motherfucking Squid fight from Dr No yet
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2020 23:30 |
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chitoryu12 posted:If you want a preview of what the next book is like, go look up what series made Christopher Wood famous. Oh god. And what is going on with the male cover model
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# ¿ May 9, 2020 07:32 |
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I'm wondering what the Bond movies be like if they'd adapted the books in a different order. Because with the changes made to translate Dr No, From Russia With Love and Goldfinger to screen they establish the templates for the Bond Movie Villain, the Bond Movie Gadgets and the Bond Movie Girls respectively. What would the franchise look and feel like if they'd gone, say, Casino Royale, Live and Let Die, then Moonraker?
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2020 06:13 |
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Edit: Nevermind. Serves me right for skim reading
High Warlord Zog fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Sep 5, 2020 |
# ¿ Sep 5, 2020 12:43 |
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Psion posted:- enemies have a curious reluctance to just shoot him In fairness the opposite is also true
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2020 00:58 |
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Midjack posted:Rainbow Six opened similarly; I wonder if it was deliberate homage by Clancy? Like Oliver Stone says: Inside every fat Tom Clancy novel is a thin James Bond waiting to get out.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2020 00:05 |
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chitoryu12 posted:Chapter 18: Shock Tactics And with less than 40 pages to go... brainwashing! This book is absurdly overstuffed
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2020 09:52 |
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Old, old news, but amusing. Here is the story of the next big spy novel that turned out the be stitched together from bits of John Gardner's Bond continuations, Robert Ludlum books and others: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/02/13/the-plagiarists-tale
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2020 04:55 |
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chitoryu12 posted:What I'm more torn about is the seeming necessity of spy novels to have a torture scene like this. Even when written in an exciting and unique way, it already feels old hat by the 80s. It's such a trope that Gardner's Bond manages to repeatedly fall into horrible torture sequences until a lucky break gets him out. It's preferable to the post 9/11 Vince Flynn era of spy fiction where this kind of OTT torture sequence is carried out by the heroes, and carried out unfeelingly, to show how badass they are. The inversion within the genre from “look how much pain and suffering the superspy can endure” to “look how much pain and suffering the superspy can inflict” is creepy as hell. High Warlord Zog fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Feb 26, 2021 |
# ¿ Feb 26, 2021 10:57 |
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chitoryu12 posted:Chapter 21: This Can't Be Heaven This already happened in The Man With the Golden Gun and was horrible
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2021 07:06 |
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chitoryu12 posted:For instance, despite how Bond himself speaks about homosexuality, Fleming enjoyed frequenting Berlin drag clubs and makes jokes about LGBT culture (like the “Homintern” of the arts) that he would have needed to get from a friend like Noel Coward, who he visits for dinner with Charlie Chaplin in Geneva. I'm thinking of that New York sketch he did for Octopussy and the Living Daylights... 007 in New York posted:He had heard, though he had never succeeded in tracing them, that one could see blue films with sound and colour and that one’s sex life was never the same thereafter. That would be an experience to share with Solange! And that bar, again still undiscovered, which Felix Leiter had told him was the rendezvous for sadists and masochists of both sexes. The uniform was black leather jackets and leather gloves. If you were a sadist, you wore the gloves under the left shoulder strap. For the masochists it was the right. As with the transvestite places in Paris and Berlin, it would be fun to go and have a look.
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# ¿ May 22, 2021 02:03 |
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chitoryu12 posted:Funny thing, I just downloaded Jaws. Funnily enough a more recent case of someone doing this used John Gardner’s Bond books as source novels.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2021 11:15 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 05:28 |
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Now I want them to do naked chairbound bond
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2021 22:14 |