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sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Didn't run fast enough, the prick.

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sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
I can do this indefinitely.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

I had the weekend off as rest days and now I have the next few days off as holiday, I booked this time off several months ago. I will get to spend time with my youngest tomorrow, I can't wait. The rest of my time will be spent watching TV, playing games and working on an LP or two.

I have a holiday abroad booked for the summer, something is telling me that I won't be going.

Is it the government?

It should be.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Viruswithshoes posted:

Manchester goon here. Holy poo poo can you imagine the state this country will get into when the pubs reopen.

They're all going to go out of business. Every brewery is switching to hand sanitiser full time.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Shut up Meg posted:

What's the correct method to sterilise a mask at home? Is it something I can do at home with Fairey Liquid and some sticky-backed plastic?

For corona just leave it somewhere for three days between uses. The viable virus doesn't survive that long on anything but clean stainless steel surfaces.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

I said come in! posted:

Boris Johnson is supposedly starting to feel a lot better?

I imagine death feels pretty great after a few days of lung shredding assisted breather.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:

I thought he was not on a ventilator.

Yeah, he's just been in intensive care for 3 days "as a precaution" lmao

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
My garden would be lovely but for the neighbours kids shrieking at each other all day every day.

I've got a deckchair out there and it's merely okay.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

learnincurve posted:

Someone did plague maths and for every week you stay in you save 18 lives.

Unfortunately it's the same 18 every time, and one of them is Boris Johnson.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Angelwolf posted:

Tell me how you propose 'actual governance in the proper way' should work in a pandemic of a new virus and which party you think would do it better.

I'm not aligned to any party but I figured they'd all have a similar approach to this situation

For a start our government were the only ones in the world (at the time) that openly promoted a "take it on the chin" approach, and their actions to date suggest that it's still the cornerstone of the plan. They've waited for the public or the private sector to make/demand changes before stepping in with vague advice that matches the trend. Sports stopped of their own accord. Businesses were shutting and social distancing happening before Boris' Big Day in front of the camera. They're not ordering ventilators from manufacturers because that would cost more money and generate fewer positive headlines than commissioning studies on whether Dyson can make one.

For a week or so our government had the worst response in the world imo. Thankfully they're too spineless and PR-driven to be outdone by the mentalists in charge of Brazil, the US etc. who are cracking further up with each passing day. And the Dutch "followed the science" by announcing herd immunity for all as their strategy (their early response was stronger than ours though iirc).

It was a new virus but we weren't hit first. We had significant data from China, Korea and Italy by the time it was clear this was coming. But our scientists plugged in the numbers for "just a flu, bro" and decided that was fine (wait, no, they didn't do that they just said they did. The only "science" that "changed" was their behavioural scientists discovered the public won't actually accept 250k deaths and most of us would rather stay home from work).

The media are whitewashing the whole thing as best they can, as part of their role for the establishment keeping the public calm and happy. They don't put our death counts in headlines any more because that might make us think the government hosed things up. They'll show Spain's though. A left wing government here would be getting it both barrels, especially if we'd shut down when Italy and most of the continent did (and stopped loving Cheltenham from going ahead), and kept the tally lower.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Kitchner posted:

I don't think the question was about the response the government has chosen to take, it was specifically about governance i.e. How are things being run.

Listening to the medical experts, hosting daily press briefings, and passing emergency laws is pretty much what any party would be doing. The Reuters investigation seems to lame the blame for a lot of the inactivity at the feet of the science and medical experts, and then at the government for not challenging their advice, which honestly I can't imagine Corbyn would have done either. Before this what type of politician would challenge the chief medical officer in the middle of a growing medical crisis about their complex and sophisticated models and detailed pandemic response plans? The answer is probably someone like Trump who would say its all a hoax or something.

There needs to be a reckoning when it's all done but I've never voted Tory in my life nor do I plan to, yet I don't think they've really done much that anyone else wouldn't have done after it's all hit. The big questions are about how we prepared (we didn't) both in terms of the general state of the NHS and the specific preparations we should have been taking in early 2020.

Whether or not the media would fall in line is sort of a separate issue to what the government is doing.

"We were following the science" is just spin. Blame the scientists, blame the public, blame the footballers etc. Boris was shaking hands with coronavirus patients at the beginning of March, did his chief medical officer agree with that?

Our scientists and experts came to the same conclusions in their studies as everyone else's: herd immunity via vaccine is the only real solution, and hundreds of thousands could die in the meantime if we do nothing. Our government then went "great, let's do nothing then", unlike most of the rest of the world, who wanted to do a radical thing like safeguarding as many lives as possible. They're still not ordering ventilators from actual manufacturers. As Trump said, those ventilators will be surplus to requirements in a year or so, so it's not cost-effective (the economic science backs that up!)

The government's behavioural scientists concluded (via classic British exceptionalism) that people here simply wouldn't put up with any sort of lockdown or social restrictions, and had to backtrack when we started doing it without their instruction. Businesses worth hundreds of millions shut themselves down to protect lives and their own reputations. We had to wait for "the right time", supposedly, but that turned out to be right when a majority of the public (and most of Europe) had already acted. Fancy that.

Scientists are cold, unfeeling monsters at the best of times, and those in administrative positions within government are twice as likely to sacrifice us all to the dark gods of efficiency, rationality and keeping their bosses looking good. Studies and findings are only as good as what you try to do with them. The government poo poo the bed by using the science to attempt a speed run of a pandemic, and now has the BBC, Guardian et al scurrying the sheets down to the washing machine for them.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

learnincurve posted:

My tattoo artist and I were b8nge watching Russian doll for 4 hours while she worked and this kids is why I now have a massive vortex on my arm.

drat, that sucks dude. Thoughts and prayers.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
No wonder everyone's poor when they're spending £3 on a sandwich, drink and bag of crisps every day.

I bought a loaf of bread for 39p the other day.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

learnincurve posted:

Incidentally when the first press conference was going on and he said something like “we don’t want to force the over 70s to stay inside because of the loneliness factor” my 16 year old daughter (5ft in her socks) stood up and yelled “you’ll be a lot more lonely 6 foot under mate!” and shook her fist at the screen in rage.

I think about this a lot.

Do you think about buying her shoes?

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Most girls don't appreciate the cheese.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
I'd rather die than queue outside a Home Bargains. Sort it out, Boris.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
The rain means I can't lift weights or sunbathe in the garden and that's my entire day apart from playing games and eating. This sucks.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Galewolf posted:

I'm proud of this thread for not going for the low hanging fruit of "Have you tried sucking dick, OP?"

That's frowned upon at the gay fisting factory.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Galewolf posted:

Pasta is love, pasta is life.

I cooked Jamie Oliver's chorizo, potatoes and eggs breakfast recipe in the morning and it was good (tm). Eating way too much carbs these days but hashtag yolo, you are not my real father Jeff :mad:

https://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/pork-recipes/potato-amp-chorizo-breakfast-hash/

Nice recipe

For a clown to make

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Fatkraken posted:

I thought they just retroactively added those in a few days ago

They added care home deaths but the official total is still way short of what excess deaths suggest.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Sunswipe posted:

Their doughnuts are poo poo, so I wouldn't hold out much hope.

Co-op do the best custard doughnuts.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Lolie posted:

I was just reading a Guardian article which says that less than a fifth of people surveyed believe that the UK should be easing restrictions at this time.

I wonder how many of the people in the shops belong to that one fifth and how many are out adding to the risk despite believing restrictions should remain in place.

We don't need to ease the restrictions because the restrictions are soft as gently caress.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Neurophonic posted:

Going for a walk is not “part of the problem” - it’s essential to not going utterly batshit crazy in your house.

For some people, maybe.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
The kids from the house in front of mine have started riding their little scooters up and down my driveway, and hanging out near my car. I guess because it's smoother and safer than the layby in front of their house and hidden from parents (their mother is an rear end in a top hat for sure) but the grouchy old coot in me does not like it one bit.

I think building some speed bumps could be a good project.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
I don't want to be a dick and tell them to stop but I did have to double check whether my tv could be seen from the front windows of my house as there's been a lot of porn on it recently. And I don't always pull my trousers up when I'm waddling to the bathroom.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Predictably the youngest boy tripped and hurt himself and now there's blood on my driveway.

All day they've been up and down shrieking their heads off.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
It's dark out, I've turned off the porch light, and they're still going mental.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
I'm expecting to trip over bodies when I take the bins out later.

Hopefully it either pisses down with rain or they find something better to do tomorrow.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Jose posted:

close the curtains

I have living room curtains but not in the hallway or the glass on the front door, and my downstairs is pretty open plan so there are theoretically angles where people could get an eyeful. Usually it's just the postman though because it's a private driveway sheltered from the road, you'd have to be trying to look to see anything.

Put my bin out, no dead kids. Single bag, only half full. Not sure how I'm throwing away so little every two weeks, corona is doing wonderful things for the planet.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Fatkraken posted:

That's down to the writers being the best mainstream blockbuster screenwriting partnership operating today.

Damning with the faintest of praise.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Dravs posted:

Yeah, but what's the game like?

:rimshot:

Also, flour chat, my local Asdas must have got annoyed with idiots hording flour and have started packing up flour from their own bakery and selling 1kg of it in the bags they use for doughnuts. 1 allowed per person.

Think of the poor essential employees who now have to bag flour for all the basic bitches who've decided to take up baking at the same time.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Meat Wagon posted:

It's my birthday today :toot: I don't have any alcohol and I can't see my friends but I do have weed. Gonna get high, eat some cupcakes and watch bad movies.

it's supposed to be a special day

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Hating cyclists isn't a new anything.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

wooger posted:

Why Monday? Bank Holiday Friday weekend is here, should be more people about tomorrow I’d expect.


Banning cyclists from anywhere outside is crazy, but yes there are some dickheads who think that bombing it down the canal is the thing to do.

If you look at the cyclists, and their footwear, you’ll soon notice the pattern that actual regular cyclists are sensible (and most likely are on the road anyway) - identify them by their clipless pedal shoes.

The casuals cycling in packs with boat shoes on are the dodgy unsafe ones, who normally wouldn’t go in for this kind of thing.

Nah it's the twats with all the posh gear who are the worst ones.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
It's a bit cloudy here. Warm but threatening to rain.

I haven't had a drink since I went into hiding two months ago.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Thunder, lightning and a brief power cut now. It's chucking it down.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Aginor posted:

Where's that?

Mid Wales.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Sunswipe posted:

Please don't feel the need to tell us every time it rains in Wales.

Since the virus saved the world the weather has been very nice here. The best spring I can remember in a long time.

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sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Dell_Zincht posted:

I just assume it's always raining in Wales unless a Welsh person lets me know otherwise

It stopped raining a while ago it's just cloudy now.

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