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....im sorry if im coming across as abrasive today, yuming. none of it is personal
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 23:37 |
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CapitalistPig posted:So let me get this straight, someone who you suspect might be scum instead of defending themselves tries to deflect attention to another player and that's a strange justification to you? I'm just trying to figure out this game and I think I made good points in light of Ernie's flip. But I can't get a strong read on who is scum besides steak.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 23:40 |
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if your 1 presupposition isn't leading you anywhere, despite your best efforts, maybe the presupposition is wrong. i understand that you're going to be stubborn about this, but on the unlikely chance that you're actually town, please at least humor the idea of me being town, and see if you can read anybody differently, and if anything becomes any clearer than it is now.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 23:42 |
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yuming posted:I've said like twice I am imagining you as scum with Ernie-- and that an I'm imagining a connection to steak as well. From that perspective that posts stands out to me. But I understand that is some tenuous reasoning so I am leaving it as a what-if possibility. That's not really what you were saying though. You leaned on it being scummy that I said ernie's name in a perfectly reasonable way.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 23:44 |
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Mr. Steak posted:....im sorry if im coming across as abrasive today, yuming. none of it is personal CPig, I wouldn't say I using the vig as a bargaining chip I am just trying to give players time to post reads.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 23:45 |
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CapitalistPig posted:That's not really what you were saying though. You leaned on it being scummy that I said ernie's name in a perfectly reasonable way. I was looking for connections to Ernie and I said that stood out.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 23:47 |
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yuming posted:I don't follow what you're trying to say here. It just seems pretty flimsy that of anything that was said about ernie or that ernie talked about that's the "connection" you chose to bring up.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 23:56 |
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CapitalistPig posted:It just seems pretty flimsy that of anything that was said about ernie or that ernie talked about that's the "connection" you chose to bring up. I quoted a series of posts by Ernie/steak/Hal and Mikujin before that. It reads to me like CPig only read when I mentioned him and none of my other comments about D1. This makes me more suspicious of CPig.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 00:03 |
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yuming posted:ABOUT YOU. Yes. You're missing the point. Why even bother to bring it up if it's this flimsy and not actually scummy at all? Were you required to give an opinion about every single interaction ernie had in the entire game regardless of whether or not it was scummy? It was literally just white noise filler with no actual purpose other than something you could point to later on if you happen to push a lunch on me or use your vig on me.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 00:07 |
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Okay Steak, Since you are going to lightning rod yourself to eat the kill. Which 3P are you? 3P is specifically mentioned in the OP.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 00:08 |
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Leith Maclaine posted:Okay Steak, hm, i forgot about that. i wonder if thats an explicit acknowledgement of 3p existing, or just a general statement. but no, im town
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 00:21 |
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I've caught up with the thread. I haven't read Ernies posts yet. I'll do that later this morning or early this afternoon (eastern time). There's a couple of posts that stick out: Mr. Steak posted:i dont love using this kind of reasoning, but........ I don't like this post. It seems desperate to latch on to any kind of slip. Also I said the same thing at the end of day 2 in this thread as well about Grandi posting in the other thread. Not looking in the other thread is less of an excuse. yuming posted:Finally, the swing of the votes yesterday makes me suspicious of steak. What about the swing of votes yesterday make you suspicious of steak? About how it switched to DB? Weren't you the first to vote for DB in that group? Leith Maclaine posted:Okay Steak, Which 3p? this feels like it implies that there is more than 1 3p? Are you saying that you're 3p?
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 14:22 |
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I meant which role is the 3P in this one. I am not a 3P, nor do I know if there are multiple 3P.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 14:42 |
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Leith Maclaine posted:I meant which role is the 3P in this one. I see. I might have been reading to much into that.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 16:03 |
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Timing, shoot someone with more than 12 hours left in the game please. I dont want to scramble to get a lunch today if you wait too long.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 16:07 |
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...Yuming
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 16:07 |
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Amnistar posted:Timing, shoot someone with more than 12 hours left in the game please. I dont want to scramble to get a lunch today if you wait too long. the deadline's tomorrow in like 34 hours.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 16:16 |
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Token Female posted:the deadline's tomorrow in like 34 hours. Oh I see what you're saying. I thought to said that there was 12 hours until the deadline. Nevermind.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 16:18 |
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Yeah. Sorry if that was unclear.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 16:19 |
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kk, good idea. I will be back in a bit. ##shoot mr. steak
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 16:52 |
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Mr. Steak Town-aligned Easy Shepard's Pie has been shot D3. The Day Continues.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 17:16 |
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Votecount for Day 3 Not Voting (7): Amnistar, CapitalistPig, Hal Incandenza, Leith Maclaine, Mikujin, Token Female, yuming With 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 11th, 2020 at 10 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 day, 9 hours.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 17:16 |
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Mr. Steak's Easy Shepherd’s Pie by Elise Bauer (edited by Steak) Prep time: 15 minutes Cook time: 50 minutes Serves 4 INGREDIENTS 1 1/2 to 2 pounds potatoes, peeled and quartered (about 3 large potatoes) 8 Tablespoons (1 stick) butter 1 medium onion, chopped (about 1 1/2 cups) 1-2 cups vegetables (eg: diced carrots, corn, peas) 1 1/2 lbs ground beef 1/2 cup beef broth 1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce Salt, pepper, other seasonings of choice STEPS Boil the potatoes Place the peeled and quartered potatoes in medium sized pot. Cover with at least an inch of cold water. Add a teaspoon of salt. Bring to a boil, reduce to a simmer, and cook until tender (about 20 minutes). Sauté vegetables While the potatoes are cooking, melt 4 tablespoons of the butter in a large sauté pan on medium heat. Add the chopped onions and cook until tender (about 6 to 10 minutes). Add vegetables according to their cooking time. Carrots should be cooked with the onions, because they take as long to cook as the onions do. If you are including peas or corn, add them toward the end of the cooking of the onions, or after the meat starts to cook, as they take very little cooking time. Add more stuff Add ground beef to the pan with the onions and vegetables. Cook until no longer pink. Season with salt and pepper. Then, add the Worcestershire sauce and beef broth. Bring the broth to a simmer and reduce heat to low. Cook uncovered for 10 minutes, adding more beef broth if necessary to keep the meat from drying out. Mash the potatoes When the potatoes are done cooking (ie: a fork can easily pierce them), remove them from the pot and place them in a bowl with the remaining 4 Tbsp of butter. Mash with a fork or potato masher, and season with salt and pepper to taste. Create masterpiece within casserole dish Begin preheating oven to 400°F. Spread the beef/onion/veggie mixture evenly in a large baking dish (9x13 casserole recommended) Spread the mashed potatoes over the ground beef. Rough up the surface of the mashed potatoes with a fork so there are peaks that will get well browned (this step is monumentally important!!) You can even use a fork to make creative designs in the mashed potatoes. Bake Place in 400°F oven and cook until browned and bubbling (about 30 minutes). If necessary, broil for the last few minutes to help the surface of the mashed potatoes brown. Serve Cut into squares with a spatula and serve. I try to keep the structure relatively intact, but it ultimately doesn't matter how destroyed it is Mr. Steak's Easy Shepherd’s Pie is worth 25 points.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 17:16 |
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##vote leith Your list wasn't updated and has nothing in consideration from later days for many people. You are pushing a dichotomy between cpig and I based on a day 1 fight, and I dont think you're invested in finding scum. Steak, I'm sorry you werent having fun early and I pushed for your death as hard as I did.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 17:18 |
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Bleh. Time to reread again.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 19:10 |
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Reading over Ernie's post history, I'm really taken by how strongly Ernie defends CPig. It actually makes me feel better about CPig. I don't feel like scum would defend their own so hard on day 1 like that. Additionally, Ernie asks people to also read his past games. Why do people do this?
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 19:38 |
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Amnistar posted:##vote leith Yeah, leith's reads on everyone are basically the same. There's no real conviction for anything. Plus there's no interaction between him and Ernie, while ernie was around. All there is is asking for ernie to post his opinion late day 2. I would still vote for Leith.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 19:42 |
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Token Female posted:Reading over Ernie's post history, I'm really taken by how strongly Ernie defends CPig. It actually makes me feel better about CPig. I don't feel like scum would defend their own so hard on day 1 like that. I know, it's amazing how yuming chose to call me out for the weakest flimsiest possible connection to me instead of noticing that.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 19:48 |
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Token Female posted:Reading over Ernie's post history, I'm really taken by how strongly Ernie defends CPig. It actually makes me feel better about CPig. I don't feel like scum would defend their own so hard on day 1 like that. What I'm trying to do atm is suspend my tone reads on players and pay more attention to their motivation and timing. So far so, far... Scum POV is D1 Ernie had some attention but not much. By EOD happy to let the Sal kill happen. Scum POV D2 is a choice between two town so happy with either. Scum POV now is waiting for the likely steak kill to happen. This is making me lean back towards being suspicious of less engaged players like Hal and Mikujin.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 20:05 |
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CapitalistPig posted:I know, it's amazing how yuming chose to call me out for the weakest flimsiest possible connection to me instead of noticing that. Like I just said I'm going to try and suspend my conspiracy theories, those are my worst reads. I think we need to look for who doesn't care about figuring out this game.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 20:07 |
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yuming posted:This is making me lean back towards being suspicious of less engaged players like Hal and Mikujin. Why not Leith?
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 20:07 |
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Token Female posted:Why not Leith? Which is the kind of read I just said I wanted to ignore for the moment I am still on D1. So I'll report back when I'm done reading.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 20:09 |
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I would point out that I was making an argument the cpig was not busing Steak which turns out to have been true. I also encouraged yuming to vig either cpig or amnistar instead of Steak. My convictions are: Cpig/Amni one of these two and Hal Adding in the 3P potential, we could have all 3 should be lunchs.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 20:13 |
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Leith Maclaine posted:I would point out that I was making an argument the cpig was not busing Steak which turns out to have been true. Aside from the early day 1 stuff, why do you find amnistar and CPig scummy? Do you find one more scummy than the other?
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 20:21 |
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Token Female posted:Aside from the early day 1 stuff, why do you find amnistar and CPig scummy? Do you find one more scummy than the other? That's the thing, I find both of them about equal so it is hard to say. I am actually more thinking the D2 stuff with the Bus and the Roleblock puts them in a thunderdome unless they are both scum and coordinated it to give the other one cred. Amni votes someone early and then tends to stay on them awhile. He hasn't really built a case. For example, his case on me is that my opinion hasn't changed much, but he did note that my opinion pretty clearly matched him. Cpig's votes move a decent amount but seem to always move between people who turn out to be town. Add with the defense of Ernie. I think I would lean CPig being more scummy but I am not discounting both.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 20:34 |
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yuming posted:Oh come off it <> Yeah but I think you're scum? Why would I come off it?
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 20:39 |
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Leith Maclaine posted:Amni votes someone early and then tends to stay on them awhile. He hasn't really built a case. For example, his case on me is that my opinion hasn't changed much, but he did note that my opinion pretty clearly matched him. That last part is actually a decent point.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 20:45 |
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Token Female posted:That last part is actually a decent point. Yeah it actually is. I've been suspicious of Amni like, the whole game.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 20:52 |
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I didn't start taking pictures until it was already done but here is my pantry staple! Coconut ginger brown rice! I have some coconut oil that has a good coconut flavor instead of being very neutral and flavorless like a lot of coconut oils are. I also have some very strong vegetable oil that I cooked a whole bunch of fresh ginger in and then let sit for days to infuse it into a powerful ginger oil. I cooked the brown rice as per the normal directions but I added these two oils plus about two tablespoons of coconut milk. I wish i remembered to start taking pictures before I did. More to come.
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# ? Apr 10, 2020 20:59 |
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Can you point to where I said my opinion was yours leith? I'm struggling to remember doing that.
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