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Ceramics
May 26, 2014



I already played 100 hours of P5 why the gently caress would I buy this full priced expansion pack what the gently caress were they thinking oh I bought it nevermind can't wait

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Stroth
Mar 31, 2007

All Problems Solved


get out of my head

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009



Grimey Drawer

Apparently Tae Takemi's VA did the traditional Persona disappearing act and there's a replacement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVnEtiuimmQ

Arist
Feb 13, 2012



Oven Wrangler

Apparently Kirsten Potter moved or something? And they couldn't contact her, whatever. It sucks, I really liked the old voice.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009



Grimey Drawer

Yeah, I don't really see anything about what she's doing now. Doesn't seem to have a social media presence and her website listed on Behind the Voice Actors is gone.

Detective Buttfuck
Mar 30, 2011



Why is it always the va for the best girl who leaves at the rereleases?

Captain Walker
Apr 7, 2009

Mother knows best
Listen to your mother
It's a scary world out there


Sounds a lot like Brittany Cox (Ingrid from Three Houses) to me. It's a weird choice; most of Ingrid's characterization is that she works herself too hard and demands everyone around her do the same, whereas Takemi's whole deal is "I have hard drugs to sell and zero fucks to give". That said, Cox does a good job in that scene.

Also, this was probably her first time in the booth as Takemi, and the VAs usually need a little time to settle into their characters. Compare the first Igor scene in P3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geJe71dAllk

with the equivalent scene in P4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMJ6jTqMtpw

Detective Buttfuck posted:

Why is it always the va for the best girl who leaves at the rereleases?

They kept Michelle Ruff and Erin Fitzgerald for Catherine: Full Body!

CJ
Jul 2, 2007
I HAVE SHIT TASTE AND CANNOT BE TRUSTED

I checked the credits and it says it's Abby Trott.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Don't worry my friends. I will be your shield.


Fallen Rib

Ugh I really am considering this. Still for all of 5s weaknesses it is still bare minimum pretty good.

Kinda surprised that I have not been completely spoiled on the end of this. I mean, there are a few broad strokes I heard (In this thread even!) but that is about it.

Ulio
Feb 17, 2011



I loved 5 but it was my first Persona game so maybe I didn't have anything to compare it with. Definitely looking to play the rest of the series at some point.

I also heard that Last Surprise has been replaced by another track as the battle theme and that is pretty good?

Arist
Feb 13, 2012



Oven Wrangler

Ulio posted:

I loved 5 but it was my first Persona game so maybe I didn't have anything to compare it with. Definitely looking to play the rest of the series at some point.

I also heard that Last Surprise has been replaced by another track as the battle theme and that is pretty good?

Both songs are in the game but the new one plays for ambushes now I think, which means that you'll probably never hear Last Surprise ever again lmao

YaketySass
Jan 15, 2019

Blind Idiot Dog


Arist posted:

Both songs are in the game but the new one plays for ambushes now I think, which means that you'll probably never hear Last Surprise ever again lmao

So the "you'll never see it coming" song plays when you fail to ambush?

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

#1 CAPITALS FAN
Available on the App Store


It always feels weird to me when combat starts in a Persona game with anything other than ďBaby baby baby baby baby...Ē

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011



Do I just need any P5 save to get the save bonus in P5R? I just did to the first part where you enter your name and it asks you to save and quit since I lost my old completed P5 save.

Spiffster
Oct 6, 2009

I'm good... I Haven't slept for a solid 83 hours, but yeah... I'm good...




Lipstick Apathy

Wait there is a bonus fo P5 save data?

Arist
Feb 13, 2012



Oven Wrangler

Spiffster posted:

Wait there is a bonus fo P5 save data?

You get some items (fully restore the party's HP x3 and revive one ally with 50% HP x3) and 50,000 yen, which I think is hilarious because it means now I can just cut out the middleman of selling that DLC Soma the game gives you.

e: Anyway, apparently (extremely minor character spoilers) Lala Escargot is voiced now, if the Japanese version is any indication, gently caress yes

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

#1 CAPITALS FAN
Available on the App Store


Spiffster posted:

Wait there is a bonus fo P5 save data?

I got all excited and googled. Turns out itís just a little bit of money and a couple consumables.

WTB full Pokťdex transfers.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Detective Buttfuck posted:

Why is it always the va for the best girl who leaves at the rereleases?

Cherami Leigh is still here though?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007


Arist posted:

You get some items (fully restore the party's HP x3 and revive one ally with 50% HP x3) and 50,000 yen, which I think is hilarious because it means now I can just cut out the middleman of selling that DLC Soma the game gives you.

e: Anyway, apparently (extremely minor character spoilers) Lala Escargot is voiced now, if the Japanese version is any indication, gently caress yes

lala was always voiced, though

she didn't have many lines and she sounded like a cane toad with strep throat, but it was a thing

Arist
Feb 13, 2012



Oven Wrangler

Oxxidation posted:

lala was always voiced, though

she didn't have many lines and she sounded like a cane toad with strep throat, but it was a thing


I don't remember that at all, and looking back at some old footage it seems like it's just some random barks like when you talk with a character in an unvoiced Confidant event, stuff like "Oh boy" at the longest.

e: oh right, rank 1, forgot

A Bystander
Oct 10, 2012


I'm still working on an NG+ in the normal game and I'd be willing to play this one a year from now on sale. Hopefully the new changes to Palaces means that they suck less to go through across the board rather than just the more terrible ones.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Don't worry my friends. I will be your shield.


Fallen Rib

A Bystander posted:

I'm still working on an NG+ in the normal game and I'd be willing to play this one a year from now on sale. Hopefully the new changes to Palaces means that they suck less to go through across the board rather than just the more terrible ones.

Huh, I thought the palaces that I played (Again, I only played till September) were all very good for the most part. But then different strokes, etc. And really, let it never be said that I claimed to have good taste.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012



Oven Wrangler

People really don't like the September/October one, but IMO the worst one is the December one.

A Bystander
Oct 10, 2012


Unlucky7 posted:

Huh, I thought the palaces that I played (Again, I only played till September) were all very good for the most part. But then different strokes, etc. And really, let it never be said that I claimed to have good taste.

I think the only good one is the first one and that's partly because it doesn't really waste your time in a way I find to be annoying. I'm not claiming to have good taste, either, but something about all the others just kind of blows to go through even on a rerun.

Max Wilco
Jan 22, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Question: Did they fix it so that you now know how close you are to leveling up a social stat?

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

#1 CAPITALS FAN
Available on the App Store


I liked all the palaces.

But I also loved the entire game and avoided reading about it on the internet until I was finished out of fear of spoilers. Didnít even notice most of the stuff people were unhappy with.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another rainy day commute





Pillbug

In terms of just flat out bad mechanics in palaces, the only ones that stick out to me are the major setpieces of the Spaceship palace (gently caress the whole "find the supervisor!" section, gently caress the time restricted conveyor belts, gently caress the air lock puzzle) and the rat mazes in the cruise ship. Note that boring =/= bad, the final Mementos palace was kinda boring but fine mechanically, as an example.

The best palace by a country mile was the Casino in music, visual aesthetic, and mechanics.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001


Sydin posted:

The best palace by a country mile was the Casino in music, visual aesthetic, and mechanics.

Yeah the Casino ruled, although it was a bit slow at times.

I'm not used to console updated editions and exclusives so I'm surprised there's no discount for owning the base game. Too used to PC game upgrades I guess.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

by Reene


It kills me that this 100+ hour RPG has one (now two I guess) battle themes in it, I've got to be honest.

Ceramics
May 26, 2014



The pre order dynamic theme is pretty dope. It finally got me to remove the the FF14 one I'd been using for 5 years.

Starsnostars
Jan 17, 2009

The Master of Magnetism


My dynamic theme code didn't work

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005


Are there any online components to the gameplay that would require PS+? Like how P4G had online rescue options?

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011



The online stuff in base P5 didn't require PS+

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

BRING CORPRO



I loved Persona 5 to pieces but I am probably gonna pass on this one. The added content looks Pretty Bad all in all

P4G with Marie was already pretty not great, this just seems to be more Marie type content but ratcheted to 11.

Captain Walker
Apr 7, 2009

Mother knows best
Listen to your mother
It's a scary world out there


Youíre telling me the awkwardly shoehorned-in supernatural tsundere didnít do it for you? What about an extra dungeon with a bullshit gimmick literally right out of SMT: Strange Journey, same level designers and everything? Or another goddamn bath scene where typical Yosuke/Teddie bullshit gets the boys electrocuted?

Honestly, the worst thing about Marie was that, during Narukamiís awakening to ZA WARUDO at the end, she appears after Nanako. Truly, there is no Justice.

e: can't forget the extra voice lines from the final boss with noticeably different overdubbing FX compared to the original dialogue

Captain Walker fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Mar 30, 2020

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

BRING CORPRO



Yeah I'm really not hype for an Even Worse version of Marie to bulldoze into a story that I really liked but already had some serious issues.

CJ
Jul 2, 2007
I HAVE SHIT TASTE AND CANNOT BE TRUSTED

From what i've seen of the new content, it's more of an expansion DLC type of thing that is pretty unrelated to the main story, rather than retconning in extra stuff to the base game story like Marie.

Captain Walker
Apr 7, 2009

Mother knows best
Listen to your mother
It's a scary world out there


Yeah, some Kasumi stuff is scattered throughout, but she only joins the crew during the new Palace in the new, semi-hidden winter semester; if it doesn't totally suck to play I'll roll with it. A good friend of mine stopped playing P5 vanilla right before the final boss, because he decided that he'd seen everything he needed from the story; I would argue that trying the fight at least once is worth it just to hear Ryuji deliver my favorite line in the game, but December certainly escalated quickly from "Shido's conspirators are covering up the calling card and his confession" to "Shido's election was a product of groupthink caused by a distortion in the heart of human cognition" to "Shido is a kind of proxy for the malevolent deity who wants humanity either subjugated or destroyed". Even P4 had more build-up from "solve the TV murders" to "stop the apocalypse fog".

Like a lot of people here, I'm more interested in the changes to the existing story flow: VO for Confidant scenes that previously had none, new mechanics for Palaces/story bosses, Mementos has music that isn't dogshit anymore, and a badly-needed second editing pass on the localization. Particularly near the beginning, stuff like "it means they'll be holding nothing back and are serious to kill us!" makes it hard to get an initial read on Morgana's character, and regardless of how well they toned down the homophobia around the super-gay couple in Shinjuku, I'd be surprised if they still forced Joker to just ditch Ryuji when he's being hit on, since Amamiya's rap sheet is literally "shoved a guy for hitting on a woman who clearly wasn't interested".

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005



Nap Ghost

Not sure what this new Mementos music is that you guys are talking about but idk maybe it shows up after Palace 2 or something, which is about where I'm at right now. There's some new game mechanics in Mementos but nothing major.

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Arist
Feb 13, 2012



Oven Wrangler

Sapozhnik posted:

Not sure what this new Mementos music is that you guys are talking about but idk maybe it shows up after Palace 2 or something, which is about where I'm at right now. There's some new game mechanics in Mementos but nothing major.

I think it changes based on depth, there's like four or five tracks for Mementos this time and some of them are pretty good.

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