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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Stroth posted:

Looks like the english release of Scramble is going to be first quarter 2021

I am ready to trust Makoto's fists.

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Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Stroth posted:

Looks like the english release of Scramble is going to be first quarter 2021

Sounds about like we expected. The pandemic pushed it back about six months from the original date, but it could have been worse.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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As a moron I tend to scratch my head as to why localization always seems to take so long but even in this case I get that the English VA's were probably reluctant to go into a small room and put a spittle covered mic into their faces

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Fojar38 posted:

As a moron I tend to scratch my head as to why localization always seems to take so long but even in this case I get that the English VA's were probably reluctant to go into a small room and put a spittle covered mic into their faces

Oh, most of them have home studios now.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Arent the P5 mostly new comers

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Tired Moritz posted:

Arent the P5 mostly new comers

Not really. The newest one is Joker's VA and he's been doing it for about four years now.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
Also Futaba and Morgana's VAs are pretty prolific. Yusuke's is like, massive.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Yeah, and Makoto's is getting there. She's going to be the voice of the female PC in Cyberpunk (which one vaguely assumes will be released at some point).

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer

Dawgstar posted:

Yeah, and Makoto's is getting there. She's going to be the voice of the female PC in Cyberpunk (which one vaguely assumes will be released at some point).

She's also one Iris Heart in the 2013 title Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory.

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?
I realize this is a bit off topic, but is there a place to watch the P4 anime in subbed instead of dubbed?

Amazon has it dubbed, but no option to switch, and I can't stand most of the voice acting.

I'm not looking for anything like a torrent here and don't mind if it's a paid / subscription site.

Thanks!

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




HaB posted:

I realize this is a bit off topic, but is there a place to watch the P4 anime in subbed instead of dubbed?

Amazon has it dubbed, but no option to switch, and I can't stand most of the voice acting.

I'm not looking for anything like a torrent here and don't mind if it's a paid / subscription site.

Thanks!

vrv has it subbed

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?

Sockser posted:

vrv has it subbed

Dunno what vrv is. Sorry. :(

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




HaB posted:

Dunno what vrv is. Sorry. :(

https://vrv.co/

A sub to vrv includes crunchyroll, roosterteeth, boomerang, shudder, and all sorts of cool poo poo, it's pretty great.

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?

Sockser posted:

https://vrv.co/

A sub to vrv includes crunchyroll, roosterteeth, boomerang, shudder, and all sorts of cool poo poo, it's pretty great.

Oh nice!

Thanks heaps.

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Sockser posted:

https://vrv.co/

A sub to vrv includes crunchyroll, roosterteeth, boomerang, shudder, and all sorts of cool poo poo, it's pretty great.

I miss when it also included Funimation.

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?

Sockser posted:

https://vrv.co/

A sub to vrv includes crunchyroll, roosterteeth, boomerang, shudder, and all sorts of cool poo poo, it's pretty great.

So I just realized, vrv has the P4G animation, but the one on Amazon is just vanilla P4 I guess.

While I do wanna watch this Golden one, the other was 2 seasons long and seemed to give a lot more backstory. The Golden one feels like ng+ and it’s glossing over a lot assuming you already know the story/chars. I have yet to finish P4G, so I don’t know much.

Anyone know where I can find the vanilla one?

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
https://www.livechart.me/anime/1199

According to this the only official place is Amazon right now.

Persona wasn't as hot of a property back in 2011 when that came out and I remember having to watch it on some obscure site.

E: If you go the Bluray route, the first set of Blurays (Broken into part 1 and 2) were English dub only due to licensing restrictions at the time. A later Persona 4 Animation complete version was released with both dubs several years later.

Dehry fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Aug 8, 2020

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
This Fusion Alarm mechanic is kind of annoying tbh. I got hit by it three times in the course of a single-day run through Futaba's dungeon and all it's doing is forcing me to trash all my good personas (because of course all the bad ones fuse to a too-high level or to a persona I already have). So now I have a useless owl-man with a giant stack of passive regen abilities and what I think is total status immunity? and absolutely no other abilities. Sounds good but I do need to actually attack during a fight, not just defend. Well, maybe I can use him to fuse something useful but it's still a giant pain.

The one saving grace is it seems to open up every single ability slot for carry over, so it's easy to use a Treasure Demon and a Blank Card or two to build a sledgehammer persona with all eight elemental attacks.

I'm still struggling through the Japanese version though so it's hard enough for me to understand what's going on at the best of times.

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

Sapozhnik posted:

I'm still struggling through the Japanese version though so it's hard enough for me to understand what's going on at the best of times.

For a fusion alarm you can literally just walk in and walk out to cancel it if you don't want to do any fusion. I never really cared about fusing my best guys because you get so much money in this game resummoning from the compendium isn't even a choice anymore, you can just do it anytime you feel like it

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?

Dehry posted:

https://www.livechart.me/anime/1199

According to this the only official place is Amazon right now.

Persona wasn't as hot of a property back in 2011 when that came out and I remember having to watch it on some obscure site.

E: If you go the Bluray route, the first set of Blurays (Broken into part 1 and 2) were English dub only due to licensing restrictions at the time. A later Persona 4 Animation complete version was released with both dubs several years later.

Yeah but they’re selling that poo poo for $400.

I wanna watch it but not that bad.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

Sapozhnik posted:

This Fusion Alarm mechanic is kind of annoying tbh. I got hit by it three times in the course of a single-day run through Futaba's dungeon and all it's doing is forcing me to trash all my good personas (because of course all the bad ones fuse to a too-high level or to a persona I already have). So now I have a useless owl-man with a giant stack of passive regen abilities and what I think is total status immunity? and absolutely no other abilities. Sounds good but I do need to actually attack during a fight, not just defend. Well, maybe I can use him to fuse something useful but it's still a giant pain.

The one saving grace is it seems to open up every single ability slot for carry over, so it's easy to use a Treasure Demon and a Blank Card or two to build a sledgehammer persona with all eight elemental attacks.

I'm still struggling through the Japanese version though so it's hard enough for me to understand what's going on at the best of times.

You can cancel the alarm without utilizing it by talking to the twins. :shrug:

But really, when you decide to take the time resetting as necessary and spend the resources, it breaks the game as soon as you unlock it.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

HaB posted:

Yeah but they’re selling that poo poo for $400.

I wanna watch it but not that bad.
It's on Animelab, but I guess moving to Australia is out of the question too, then.

What about New Zealand?

wuggles
Jul 12, 2017

HaB posted:

Oh nice!

Thanks heaps.

I have a free sub to VRV with my AT&T phone bill, fyi.

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?

FractalSandwich posted:

It's on Animelab, but I guess moving to Australia is out of the question too, then.

What about New Zealand?

I mean I'd love to move to NZ. (or Australia). Just not feasible right now. :)

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT

HaB posted:

I mean I'd love to move to NZ. (or Australia). Just not feasible right now. :)

A VPN subscription is substantially cheaper.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

Jam Buddies

I beat the original persona 5 3 times over the course of the years since release. For my second two runs I skipped much of the dialogue besides main story stuff and links I actually liked.

For my first Royal run I'm going through everything and it's amazing how much longer the game is without skipping. I think my third run, where I skipped most dialogue was like 25 or 30 hours total, to beat all the game and the super boss. Some of that was NG+ bonuses but... I'm currently at 62 hours and just barely beat Haru's introductory dungeon.

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest
It was weird to learn that Morgana's VA is also Yuumi's VA from League of Legends. Another magical cat-thing.

Anime IMBD is like that, though. I can play the Kevin Bacon game and find a game or anime for any combination of 3 VAs. Especially if we get to use Matt Mercer as a link lol.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Firstborn posted:

It was weird to learn that Morgana's VA is also Yuumi's VA from League of Legends. Another magical cat-thing.

Even her character in Trails of Cold Steel is also, while not a cat, is extremely catlike in several respects which is often commented on.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



I just finished the game and now I want to NG+ to get the new True Ending since I didn't look up the requirements the first time through...

...I probably could use an old save file too. :)

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

With the Persona 5 animation dub dropping, the VAs are sharing stories of what it was like recording the show and the game. I was delighted to find out Futaba's 'gremlin laugh' (which is now officially called the gremlin laugh and will be an actual direction given to her actor in subsequent P5 stuff) was improvised on the spot by Erica Lindbeck.

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?
Since we don't have a thread for P4G chat, I shall blather here.

I am a bit past recruiting Naoto, so I assume I am working my way towards the home stretch. My favorite character in the game is Nanako. She makes me smile every single time she shows up. Also the thought of Kanji and Rise being friends also makes me grin, because I can just imagine those interactions. Was pleasantly surprised to find them hanging out together at the Textile shop during the investigation to find out more about Naoto.

I like some things better in P4G and some things better in P5R, which is to be expected I guess.

Characters:

Overall, P5R gets a pretty easy win here. Teddie is the worst. Super creepy and outright problematic. He makes Morgana seem like a picnic. Yosuke is also pretty terrible. Chie is just sorta meh. Yukiko is boring. Kanji is fun and Rise is SUPER fun. Her first meeting with Marie made me crack up since she gets right in her face and is all "who's this, senpai? and why is she with you?" all snotty. Love it. I'm only to like Rank 4 with Naoto but she seems pretty good so far. Non-party characters aren't as interesting as P5's either. Plus Lala-chan > *.

Confidants:

I prefer the confidants in P5R, by a good margin. Levels 5-8 I definitely got a sense of the relationship deepening, and I kind of miss that in P4G, to the point that when you get to the point of romance, it still feels like we're barely friends then all of a sudden we're intimate. It's a little jarring. Also: which confidant is assigned to which arcana seems to make more sense in P5R, but that could just be because I played it first. Like....Nanako as Justice? She doesn't seem to share any qualities with Akechi at all, so it seems weird they would both be Justice. Devil confidant in P4G is sorta pointless, and just seems to peter out at the end. Sojiro > Dojima, but only because Sojiro's crotchety old man thing gives him a lot of personality. The Fox was an interesting little series of side quests, but it seemed odd that he was an actual confidant. So P5 gets the Confidant edge, for sure. I'd probably call this one a tie if the middle levels of each one in P4G were updated to feel a little deeper.

Story:

I am still kind of on the fence. I like that P4G's is sort of localized, in the sense that - you're just trying to save your small town in East Jablip, not the ENTIRE WORLD. How the other party members get their Personas makes WAY more sense in P4G. Instead of "embracing your inner rebellion" it's more "face the parts of yourself you aren't willing to acknowledge" and that just feels better to me. P5R does a better chance at conveying the urgency of what you're up against, while P4G has a lot of "you have no leads so you can't do anything about the case today" stuff. For me - basically a dead heat.

Game mechanics:

ALL HAIL Shuffle Time! That's a much better way to recruit Personas rather than getting a knockdown and having to pick correct responses for a Persona's type, some of which are pretty vague and difficult to get right without peeking at a guide. Shuffle Time rules - and the other cards you can get as perks are all pretty great. Really wish that mechanic had moved forward to P5. The step-n-fetch quests in P4G just feel sorta like padding, rather than adding interesting gameplay. Otherwise - P4G's gameplay/combat feels like an early demo of what became P5 and eventually P5R's. That being said - Shuffle Time counts for a lot, so while I'd say P5R is better overall mechanic-wise - it's closer than you might think.

So yeah - if I've recruited Naoto and she's awake and all - ballpark how far I am from the end? This is my first playthrough.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Akechi is kind of literally a broken Justice Arcana figure, that's the point. But also they've never been too great with accuracy of Arcana to confidants.

Also by most accounts the change to negotiation is much better than Shuffle Time because you're actually able to target specific Persona with Negotiation, and once you know the rules the answers are a lot less esoteric.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT
It also gives demons a sense of agency and personality that hasn't been in persona since 2. I think it's a hugely positive change.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

HaB posted:

So yeah - if I've recruited Naoto and she's awake and all - ballpark how far I am from the end? This is my first playthrough.

Ballpark says you're about 70% through, but the last part is fairly crammed so it might feel shorter.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Dr. Fishopolis posted:

It also gives demons a sense of agency and personality that hasn't been in persona since 2. I think it's a hugely positive change.

That and fighting Megaten demon designs is a lot more appealing than facing the more generic Shadow designs of P4 and P4. Plus it gives you a sort of preview of what a Persona is able to do, which makes it more enticing to try to catch it rather than hope that luck is on your side here. Also, it’s much easier to remember enemy strengths and weaknesses when they are Personas you know intimately instead of “table with mask” or “slightly recolored wrestler”.

Geostomp fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Aug 29, 2020

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
As above poster said, there isn't a P4 thread, so I'll ask here; I've never played a Persona game before so I'm not sure how the dungeons work. So I can craw into the TV and fight until i exhast all my resources, but when I go in, do i start on the same level or do i have to start all over again? Also generally how long are these? My first time in I got to level 6 before I had to leave. I saw that if I fail to rescue the first girl, i don't actually lose the game, i just have to replay the last few days.

Also is there a general rule for getting the cards after battles? i would grab all the Personas that dropped, though I grabbed chest keys when they showed up.

A Bystander
Oct 10, 2012

twistedmentat posted:

As above poster said, there isn't a P4 thread, so I'll ask here; I've never played a Persona game before so I'm not sure how the dungeons work. So I can craw into the TV and fight until i exhast all my resources, but when I go in, do i start on the same level or do i have to start all over again? Also generally how long are these? My first time in I got to level 6 before I had to leave. I saw that if I fail to rescue the first girl, i don't actually lose the game, i just have to replay the last few days.

Also is there a general rule for getting the cards after battles? i would grab all the Personas that dropped, though I grabbed chest keys when they showed up.

You can start at the highest floor you left off with or at the beginning. Go on until it's too unsafe or you hit the end, depends on you. General range of floors is like 6-10 depending on whose dungeon it is. Also, you're correct: If you don't beat it in time, you get a rewind of one week to do it right.

As for cards, if you clear the hand, you get a sweep bonus which gives you +2 to cards you can pick up to keep them coming. How you're going about it now is just fine.

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

As others said, you can restart from the last floor you reached.
  • Generally speaking, you want to reach the boss in one day and defeat them during a second day. This is almost impossible in the castle if you don't know exactly what you're doing because you simply don't have enough tools. With floor 5 cleared you should be on target for a two day sweep, which is perfectly fine.
  • Shuffle time is your friend. The Devil card (I think it was devil) is your worst foe at the start of a dungeon dive and your best friend when everyone is running on fumes.
  • Keep one or two Go-Homes for emergencies. No squirrels in this game luckily (Etrian Odyssey reference) but you could need 2 in longer dungeons.
  • Rainy days make some new enemies appear in the dungeons. It's good practice to do a second sweep of a dungeon after the deadline for various reasons. Combine those two facts and do the second dive during a rainy day.

Lastly, the castle boss is the hardest in the game, because you can't have any of the good stuff yet.
If you're struggling: fuse the persona Valkyrie, from the Strength Arcana. It is tailor made for this boss.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Funimation appears to be picking up the Persona franchise for their streaming service. They got the Persona 5 English dub and just added Persona 4 Golden this week.

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Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





Finally finished Royal after stalling out in the new semester.

Bogus that they ended up forcing Joker in juvie again. Passively going along and letting others be active seems directly counter to the whole rebellion theme. Still loved it on the whole, though.

It was odd they had subtly different reads for the confidants' final line if it was in the conversation or a repeat.

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