Detective No. 27 posted:

I'm on September 19th and at rank 6 with Akechi and rank 5 with Maruki. Will I have enough time to get them to rank 9 by the November 18th deadline? (Kasumi is maxed out.) It was super annoying that you're locked out of Maruki for the entire summer and even after school begins. And Akechi barely wanted to do poo poo during that period of time.

Detective No. 27 posted:

I'm on September 19th and at rank 6 with Akechi and rank 5 with Maruki. Will I have enough time to get them to rank 9 by the November 18th deadline? (Kasumi is maxed out.) It was super annoying that you're locked out of Maruki for the entire summer and even after school begins. And Akechi barely wanted to do poo poo during that period of time.

Geostomp posted:

He flat out says he only cares about it having enough cash to not completely go under so he can use it as his escape from all the Shido-related crap.

ChaosArgate posted:

There's no way Sojiro isn't running Leblanc as a quiet post-retirement thing to give himself something to do during the day.

Ultiville posted:

I get the pretty strong impression Leblanc is already money-negative and Sojiro has some government hush money or something he's just burning through running it as therapy. I'm not sure it's possible to drive him out of business.

arisu posted:

Guess that's true. He's also fueling Futaba's server equipment. Guy's got dirty money somehwere.

Stroth posted:

Sojiro is rich. Really rich. Like, just his house and LeBlanc represent millions of dollars in real estate easily.

Sydin posted:

Owning a single family home and a storefront in the middle of a major city isn't really a huge signifier of wealth like it would be in the States.

Ytlaya posted:

Am I more or less correct in assuming that you can actually forego a skill like Samarecarm on a party member? My Morgana hit rank 10 and is learning Evade Elec, and while that isn't a huge deal (since you can usually just avoid using people against enemies that hit their weaakness), it seems like it's easy to just afford items that do the same thing as Samarecarm. You can also get items for some other important things (like Debilitate or status effects), but those seem more difficult to acquire in large numbers.

Also, Mementos recently became even more broken. If you encounter the lootable item at the beginning of a floor, it gives 11 full SP items. That's absolutely insane.

Zvahl posted:

yeah you should be wallowing in money and it's a lot easier to just buy samarecarm items, the debil ones are plentiful from the credits you get from selling dirty clothes too which are easy to pile up in mementos at the same time, i just focused my dudes mostly on one damage type with a dusting of mediarahans here or there, but unless you're doing the secret boss stuff you don't need to optimize that severely, money can carry you through pretty easy

Stroth posted:

Just because it's not a status symbol doesn't change the fact that the man owns millions of dollars worth of real estate in one of the most expensive areas of Tokyo.

Sydin posted:

I wasn't talking about it being a status symbol, I was saying property != wealth the same way it does in the West for the most part in Japan. Sojiro owning a house and a cafe doesn't make him rich in Japan.

E2M2 posted:

Not really the thread to ask, but anyone tried Persona 5 Scramble yet? Thinking about importing it.

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

If you're looking for an entry-level absolute monster Persona, Seth has One-Shot Kill and Gun Amp. White Rider has Triple Down and Gun Boost, so if you can pass those over to any of Seth's fusion parts you're set for a LONG time. Apt Pupil boosts crit rate and can be gotten in skill card form by doing a Hold Up on Andras, which is a really good one to duplicate from Yusuke. Some vanity skills would be Attack Master, Life Aid, Speed Master, and Charge. I used basically this exact build in my first playthrough and didn't have to fuse Personas again until the middle of the Seventh palace.

Frog Act posted:

Thanks dude! I’m curious about this but I’m not sure who Seth or White Ricer are

Item Getter posted:

Yeah, have played through it to the end and it's a very good game. Happy to answer anything about it.
While it is technically based on the Dynasty/Samurai Warriors games it is heavily modified to play and feel similar to P5. Most of the time you will be sneaking around dungeons and ambushing small groups of enemies, using spells to hit weaknesses to do all-out attacks, etc. Sometimes there will be set pieces where you fight huge waves of enemies which is where it feels the most like a Warriors game.
It looks and sounds a lot like P5; the new and remixed music is mostly excellent as you might guess.
The story overall has a lot lighter tone than the original P5 but still has some tense and good moments, it's overall a pretty good sequel that builds on the themes of the original.
There are no social links, instead you get points that you can use to level up personas quickly and points to spend on different skills for the overall party that are similar to the social link benefits of P5. The calendar only advances according to the plot and coming to the end of a dungeon, so there is no stress over time management and also no waiting for weeks after you finish a dungeon reading 10 different text conversations about "Did the change of heart work this time? All we can do is wait", etc.
It's shorter than P5 (which shouldn't be surprising at all) but still a decently long game.
There's also a demo of it on the Japanese Switch eShop and I believe also the Japanese PlayStation store. Though it's not very long, only covering the first tutorial area, it will give you a bit of an idea of how it plays.

E2M2 posted:

Playable as a nonJP speaker/reader?

Geostomp posted:

Nope. Sorry. Thanks to the pandemic, we have no idea when the translated version will be released

Frog Act posted:

Thanks dude! I’m curious about this but I’m not sure who Seth or White Ricer are

Sydin posted:

Once again: you're thinking from a western perspective in that buying property = that property retaining or gaining in value over time, and thus signifying wealth. This is not the case. Japan is very utilitarian in how it views property, and property routinely loses value over time and is demolished to make room for new, more modern property. Sojiro owning a house and a cafe in Yogen signifies he at one time had a lot of money, but it doesn't mean he has a lot of money at the time the game starts. It's very probable that his house and cafe had depreciated in value significantly in the few years he's owned them, and that they will continue to depreciate in value.

You cannot equate property to wealth in Japan like you can in the West outside of very specific circumstances because the way they treat and evaluate property is radically different from Western sensibilities.

e. If anything it supports the idea that he took a large amount of hush money from members of the conspiracy for not prying into Wakabe's death and falling off the map. He used that money get a nice foothold in Yogen and is keeping his head above water with his meager Lablanc sales and government pension.

Sydin posted:

Once again: you're thinking from a western perspective in that buying property = that property retaining or gaining in value over time, and thus signifying wealth. This is not the case. Japan is very utilitarian in how it views property, and property routinely loses value over time and is demolished to make room for new, more modern property. Sojiro owning a house and a cafe in Yogen signifies he at one time had a lot of money, but it doesn't mean he has a lot of money at the time the game starts. It's very probable that his house and cafe had depreciated in value significantly in the few years he's owned them, and that they will continue to depreciate in value.

You cannot equate property to wealth in Japan like you can in the West outside of very specific circumstances because the way they treat and evaluate property is radically different from Western sensibilities.

e. If anything it supports the idea that he took a large amount of hush money from members of the conspiracy for not prying into Wakabe's death and falling off the map. He used that money get a nice foothold in Yogen and is keeping his head above water with his meager Lablanc sales and government pension.

Geostomp posted:

Nope. Sorry. Thanks to the pandemic, we have no idea when the translated version will be released

rosenritter posted:

Does Haru seem a little bit more irritating to anyone this time around?

In her father's palace, no one can shut up about how badly her dad is treating his workers. But after he dies, she basically becomes a trust-fund kid, and her biggest concern for the company is... that the coffee they're serving doesn't taste good enough?

Not that I'm expecting amazing writing from a Persona game that's mostly focused on style, but why does this game present the characters as rebelling against societal norms that are hurting young people, when it's too scared to critique something as benign as who benefits from intergenerational wealth?

E2M2 posted:

Yea I know, just asking if I can stumble my way through playing it in Japanese or something. Maybe theres a translation guide somewhere.

rosenritter posted:

Does Haru seem a little bit more irritating to anyone this time around?

In her father's palace, no one can shut up about how badly her dad is treating his workers. But after he dies, she basically becomes a trust-fund kid, and her biggest concern for the company is... that the coffee they're serving doesn't taste good enough?

Not that I'm expecting amazing writing from a Persona game that's mostly focused on style, but why does this game present the characters as rebelling against societal norms that are hurting young people, when it's too scared to critique something as benign as who benefits from intergenerational wealth?

rosenritter posted:

Does Haru seem a little bit more irritating to anyone this time around?

In her father's palace, no one can shut up about how badly her dad is treating his workers. But after he dies, she basically becomes a trust-fund kid, and her biggest concern for the company is... that the coffee they're serving doesn't taste good enough?

Not that I'm expecting amazing writing from a Persona game that's mostly focused on style, but why does this game present the characters as rebelling against societal norms that are hurting young people, when it's too scared to critique something as benign as who benefits from intergenerational wealth?

Item Getter posted:

Not that I know of. Sorry I didn't address the language thing since you were talking about importing already.
If you are able to read or quickly pick up katakana with some flash cards or such you could get through the game by being able to read the standard SMT spell names. Outside of some side quests that give you directions to look in a particular place, as far as I can remember you don't need to be able to understand anything else to complete the game although of course knowing what items and skills do helps a lot. But I wouldn't really recommend it. Better to wait for the English release whenever that might end up being.

Tabletops posted:

I'm watching the gb endurance run of persona 4 rn.

Holy poo poo. Yosuke is terrible.

That's all.

Geostomp posted:

Haru is a teenage girl who was brought up to be, essentially, a trophy wife her father could marry off to some politician’s kid for power. She has not received anything remotely resembling the training she needs to run a large company. The main struggle she has in her confidant is that she wants to reform her family business into something respectable, but doesn’t know who to trust to help her do so. She knows that she’d be an easy mark for the vultures of the corporate world, so she’s getting stressed from the paranoia of the situation. Trying to break the agreement for the arraigned marriage her father set for her while her creeeper fiancée stalks around doesn’t help matters. Focusing on her dream of running a small cafe like her grandfather helps keep her from being overwhelmed from the pressure.

She’s got a lot more going on than just looking for good-tasting coffee.

Tabletops posted:

I'm watching the gb endurance run of persona 4 rn.

Holy poo poo. Yosuke is terrible.

That's all.

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

The resolution of that S-Link makes it extremely clear how clueless Haru is with the company, you spend 8 stages with her fretting about her arranged marriage and the contract where if she backs out he gets control of the company and then the acting CEO just busts in and goes "What the gently caress are you talking about? We have a team of lawyers. We're one of the biggest companies in Japan. Just give it to them.

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