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Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Should I get this game if I enjoyed P5 but didn't feel it really needed expanding upon?

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Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

I'm on hard, and like most SMT games I've played it seems either you get the turns to drop all the opponents before they can go or you just explode.

Though that might also be my attempts to finish every palace in one day and utter refusal to not fight everything I see. And I'm still underleveled for the bosses.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Doc M posted:

AKIHIKO-SENPAI IS IN TROUBLE :byodame:

Wait, wrong game. Considering how long these games are, it'd be nice if they recorded more lines for your mission control characters.

It's almost scary how awesome I am.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

Morgana got booted into being a perma-back-up member of my team explicitly because of this stunt. I was so pissed.

Morgana became a permanent SP battery for healing as soon as Yusuke joined up because gently caress mascot characters and gently caress the little cutscene that plays when he dies because they need an explanation for him still commentating when he is dead and gently caress his m'lady Ann shtick and


Yes I absolutely did this.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

But without Morgana how can we have the hilarious scenes of him completely changing character when around a shiny thing or angrily saying that he is not a cat?

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

My favorite recurring conversation is the one you get every single day after you finish a Palace where the team asks "WHAT IF IT DOESN'T WORK THIS TIME" and you tell them "It's fine" and they all say "Whew you're right, all we can do is wait" and then you have the same conversation the next day

This is a big reason why I wished they'd do the same thing they did with the Casino and just force you to wait until the last day before you can actually fight the boss.

The explanations would get dumb, but it's a lot better than Futaba having a several week long nap or Okumura lasting for weeks after his shadow is killed, just in time for a press conference.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Mishima knows you're part of the phantom thieves. He's the one that gives you all the mementos requests, after all.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Also it would make her social link make a lot more sense since you no longer have past Joker receiving benefits for things present Joker does.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

I still want Persona 2's story and characters with good game mechanics.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Most of the adults I know of would not seriously consider dating a teenager no matter how great he is.

Especially if they're a teacher and the teenager is one of their students.

...At least I hope they wouldn't.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Edelgard discourse is almost as cursed as Akechi discourse.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

I don't know if Royal made social stats easier to level up or if I'm just spending my time better but I don't remember maxing my social stats in August in the original game.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

I have done literally none of those though.

Oh well at least I might actually finish Haru's confidant this time.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Morgana deserves worse.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

All the extra fusion alarm poo poo is great. I ended up with a suzaku that had just all the health and SP regen passives so I'd just ambush something weak and keep guarding with joker and he'd end up with full health and SP in no time.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Yes.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

"Joker's enraged? I kinda like it, but that's not you dammit!" is not very subtle, no.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Sydin posted:

The absolute worst writing in the game - even more so than Ryuji and Morgana's dumb spat - is the scene where Akechi and Shido stand in a room together and reminisce about their backstories, how they came to know one another, and just how much they love how ~eeeeeevil~ they are in some weird and terrible combo of "as we both already know but let's state anyway" dialogue and villain rant.

Nah, at least those are characters who matter and do stuff. The SIU Director does basically the same thing but with a character that doesn't matter at all.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Yep. It'll be like you weren't playing royal at all.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

I'm still convinced that Morgana was female earlier in development before someone decided that either A) male mascots sold better or B) the best part of Teddie was his flirting and wanted to repeat that.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

He deserves worse.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Orcs and Ostriches posted:

I don't think she can really hate her outfit. It derives from her inner desires of rebellions and represents the power she wants. It's her own self expression.

And Quiet breathes through her skin. At the very least, she states she feels uncomfortable wearing it. She might not be able to 'hate' it, but it's not something she wants to wear.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Yeah, 5 starts slow but 4 starts like a glacier.


Dawgstar posted:

Yeah. They make her whole Phantom Thief deal being a Fist of the North Star homage with Kaneda's bike but the female Pope then they're like 'whoa now some decorum.' While I still like Makoto, I think it could have been interesting if she would have been allowed to both own and channel her rage in productive ways instead of once she'd acknowledged it was there mostly ignoring it.

Makoto's character could have been so much better. Makoto in battle and the metaverse is a reference-driven HERO OF JUSTICE and is great, but Makoto in her social link and most of the cutscenes is just 'student council president'.

I get that we needed some sort of straight man after the first four idiots, but she gets played too straight too often.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Satan's not even fallen in standard SMT parlance, he's fairly solidly on YHVH's side most of the time.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Yosuke is weird because half the time the game expects you to laugh at him and the other half the time the game expects you to laugh with him without changing his personality in any way.

But yes he is at least better than Teddie.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

thebardyspoon posted:

There's all the lovely "oh I dunno if I wanna sleep in the same room with Kanji" stuff as well.

Yeah, all of Yosuke's real bad poo poo is how awful he is to Kanji. Mocking a dude trying to figure out his sexuality is awful.

When it comes to women it's just the bikini thing and signing them up for the pageant without their consent, I think.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

It's still an improvement over 'pick a sports club and a culture club but it doesn't matter cause they're the same people anyway.'

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

You need max knowledge (and max courage) for Naoto and level 3 knowledge for Margaret, and Understanding is exclusively for Shu.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

P5R has a separate download for all base game DLC for free.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Plus, Joker's an outcast in his school. No one there really likes him apart from his Phantom Thief friends, and most of those are because of Phantom Thief stuff. If the Metaverse hadn't happened and he just lived out his year there, I wouldn't be surprised if his social circle consisted entirely of Ryuji.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

I saw a post that pointed out that every time the Phantom Thieves tried to do something fun as a group it tends to end in disaster. See also: the buffet after Kamoshida's palace being interrupted by 'rotten adults' and the summer festival getting rained out;.

So I guess that's just another part of that?

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

That costs 300 dollars more than it is worth.

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Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Plus she only appears on rainy days in the first place so most people won't even be there to talk to her.

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