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ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Well I've just finished Royal and goddamn that was incredible. I was already head over heels for the original but I was absolutely not expecting to be blown away by all of the new stuff.

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ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Maybe Akechi’s deepest desire was to be free from his sins, and to be able to spend more time with Joker? He freely admits that he hates him, but it does kind of feel like Joker’s his only friend at times. He’s wise to the deception though because he probably earnestly believes he doesn’t deserve a nice life like that.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Robbie Daymond is def one of my favorite VAs in recent years because of his incredible range. I honestly thought he'd be typecast as just prettyboys, like Akechi's initial facade, but then Shido's palace happens and the mask comes off and the train just keeps rolling from there. :allears:

He's also goddamn Kenshiro in the FotNS Yakuza game, like goddamn.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Its a waste of a night. There’s a Temperance perk that lets you get some things washed without spending an evening, but then she’s not being coffee or making curry. There’s a pretty good way to use the dirty clothes though. You’ll find it after the second dungeon.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

Do you have a log of the text for someone who instinctively fast forwards through them all once they realized 90% of them are just BOY IM WORRIED ABOUT THIS PALACE.

DO YOU THINK IT WILL WORK THIS TIME IM SO WORRIED

I grabbed this out of Arist's old LP.

Arist posted:



Did you find anything?
As you know, Medjed is a god that appears in the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
Huh?
Its name apparently means “the smiter.” It seems nobody is actually sure that Medjed is a real name. On top of that, almost everything else about him is unknown. Even his form is unattainable. An unseen god that flies through the sky and shoots from his eyes… He truly is an elusive being.
Dude.
Everything about his existence is shrouded in mystery.
Wait.
Fundamentally speaking, ancient Egyptian art always depicted gods drawn in a side profile.



I hope that information was at least somewhat useful.

It was… something, all right.

Indeed it was.
Should I look into it more?
That’s enough, thank you.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

No Mods No Masters posted:

Hashino was supposed to be done with persona and working full time on project re fantasy after vanilla P5 came out, but then he was still the director on royal so I guess that arrangement didn't stick :rip:

He didn’t direct P5R though?

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Tabletops posted:

When does Yoshizawa join the team? If at all?

In January.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

When was the last time a JRPG or a video game had a villain whose motives were understandable enough that half the fanbase seems to think they were actually doing the right thing and argued passionately for it and the other half thought the opposite and argued passionately for that too?-

Fire Emblem Three Houses was like, last June. :v: I’m sure there are more that came after but that’s the first one that came to mind.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?


And the source, for anyone curious.

https://twitter.com/zomayuan/status/1256255645960921088

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

TheLoser posted:

Shame on whoever doesn't use Makoto, Ryuji and Haru in the endgame stretch so you can always get Makoto's showtimes to trigger.

You only need one member of each Showtime pair to trigger them. :v:

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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Hunt11 posted:

sometimes Ryuji gets caught up in the shockwaves from her attack.

That’s the boss-variation of the Showtime! :eng101:

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

That S Link is notorious for taking loving forever to get going, with the game constantly teasing you about it until you get enough Guts.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Hellioning posted:

I don't know if Royal made social stats easier to level up or if I'm just spending my time better but I don't remember maxing my social stats in August in the original game.

You get a substantial amount of extra evening time in Royal, but they did rebalance the social stat thresholds to accomodate, IIRC.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Ultiville posted:

So I am not a PS4 expert, but I didn't realize there was FreeLC for the P5 downloadables when I started my first game, and now even though I've downloaded it, I can't seem to get it to unlock. If I load my NG+ data it doesn't seem to be available, and if I choose New Game, it doesn't list it among all the DLC that's going to be used before asking me if I want to use the completion bonus.

Do I need to start a new game and not load NG+ data? I don't care much about the costumes but I'd like to unlock the personas.

You gotta check the storage box in the Leblanc attic, the one right by the stairs.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Will of the Sword also has an undocumented effect that gives you auto-Concentrate if you start with a Persona who has that trait. It's loving nuts! I built my Yoshitsune to have all three auto-ma spells with WotS as his trait so I'd start as him, then swap over to Lucifer for a 6 SP Morning Star that was charged waaaaaaay the gently caress up. If I were feeling really feisty, I'd slap a Debilitate on the enemy too but that's suuuuuper overkill.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

HaB posted:

So how much of the School Festival in late October has changed from Vanilla?

Obviously the Kasumi dance sequence, but man - I didn't think it had been that long since I played vanilla, but almost all of that sequence felt unfamiliar to me.

I’m pretty sure it’s just the dance festival being added that’s different from the original.

JackDarko posted:

Creating Black Frost by the time your in Casino Palace feels so wrong. So far the games most challenging and rewarding palace on hard remains Kamoshida's. What an awesome start that was.

SMT games tend to have their roughest challenges at the start of the game when resources are low and fusion options are limited.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Back when smt4a was new, Atlus missed some dialogue from the final boss fight if you were doing poorly or something, so there’d be a random japanese text box on screen and their excuse was “our playtesters were too good to see this, sorry guys!” So I imagine this was a similar scenario.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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Goodguy3 posted:

Is this fight, like in the original game, locked to New Game Plus, as I imagine? I never got it.

Yeah it is. I don't think there's any prerequisites to it, aside from getting to the third semester, but I haven't gotten that far yet in my NG+, I stalled out after fusing the NG+ Persona for 100% Compendium completion.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

I tried that one a few weeks ago. My problem with the recipe was that it didn’t really give any amounts for anything, so I kind of winged it with the spice blend and it ended up tasting really funky.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Sojiro, what the gently caress.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Ytlaya posted:

While watching the Takemi romance scene on Youtube (since I'm not doing it in the game) I noticed that her English VA is one of the handful that are significantly different from their JP one. I think this is one of the characters where I like the JP voice significantly more.

Also the Takemi romance scene is definitely one of the more eyebrow-raising ones - there's something particularly weird about this adult coming to the protagonist's house and asking if his guardian is home before going to hook up with him.. It's off-set by the non-romance option being a normal one that doesn't involve awkward rejection, though. Both Ichiko and Takemi do the "you're joking right" thing, but Ichiko is obviously upset by it while Takemi doesn't seem bothered.

Do you mean her VA for Royal or the original? Her english VA from the original was perfect, but apparently scheduling conflicts meant that they had to replace her.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

It’ll just read your save data. I deleted my P5 install to make room for P5R, so don’t worry, I was in your boat too. :v:

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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AlternateNu posted:

That should've been an option allowing you to skip his palace and just go straight to the boss battle.

That’d just be telling him and the mob that you actually are a piggy bank for them to squeeze dry. If you’re willing to cave like that, they wouldn’t feel cornered enough for Kaneshiro’s treasure to manifest, they’d just bleed you even more dry.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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Hunt11 posted:

There is a manga chapter that covers this very premise and it is also the source of this panel about Makoto.



Its a really good chapter.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Only Joker's outfit affects the battle BGM. I usually gravitate towards the if... costumes for the sweet classic SMT music.

Edit: Battle theme (Old Enemy, from if... and repurposed as the Amala Network Battle theme in Nocturne)
Victory theme (It's a mashup of the SMT1 and 2 level up themes)

ChaosArgate fucked around with this message at 17:50 on May 13, 2020

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

I think he just does his chores off camera. Like, he’d spend maybe 30 min to an hour doing his normal laundry and taking a quick soak at the bathhouse. These chores would be separate from you choosing to spend time doing them; the dirty laundry is super filthy and probably takes extra long to clean and when you choose to spend a night at the bath, you’re explicitly spending a long while just relaxing and soaking.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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Zvahl posted:

also, I'm not sure it applies to Futsunushi in particular since he's a slink 10 reward, but a lot of other various personas that would be rational fusions at that level don't unlock until after you're done with the 12/24 dungeon and have moved into the third semester and seen them pop up as new content, and then it suddenly lets you make a bunch of new poo poo

Nah, you can make Futsunushi before the new stuff. I made him and Lucifer on 12/24 and basically steamrolled Yaldy.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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Pesmerga posted:

So the Persona 5 manga is better than the animation then and worth reading?

I haven't read the one that's a straight adaptation of the game, the one the name "Akira Kurusu" comes from, but it wouldn't take much to be better than P5A from what I've heard of it. The manga that one chapter about the whole team managing their own cuts of Metaverse cash is from an anthology of fan comics, more or less.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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I kinda figured the conspiracy got in contact with the principal after Kamoshida’s thing went public and started manipulating him to try and figure out if the PTs had access to the metaverse too.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Nah I think that’s normal. You just need to hit 8 before the end of palace 6, and you’ll have a few opportunities to hang out again once that palace actually starts.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Are you in the third semester? I think the jacked up versions of otherwise weaker Personas you find during that timeframe have different stats from their usual selves.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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HaB posted:

Yeah it wasn't that. The minibosses don't have their level displayed. These definitely did.


I am. Maybe this is it. Still seems weird, tho.

I didn't try to negotiate with any of the jacked up enemies because I was killing them way too fast to even think about figuring out how to get hold ups, I wonder what happens if you try to recruit one of those Personas?

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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^burtle posted:

Third Semester:

If I max any of the teams confidants after the initial, “Hey can I talk to you?” can I still hit their Rank 11s? I had Makoto at 9 going into the last Palace and wondering if I should bother or just go full Kasumi.

I think you might have enough time to manage that? IIRC you get like 20 days to do stuff in the Third Semester?

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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Zvahl posted:

it's also the only way to see exactly what skill things like the dlc accessories give you without looking them up

What? You can hit R2 when equipping accessories to see what effect they have. Or wait, are you talking about the actual skill names?

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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There’s no trophy for compendium completion. Its a Den challenge now, but you definitely do not need to bother if you just want trophies.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

There's no way Sojiro isn't running Leblanc as a quiet post-retirement thing to give himself something to do during the day.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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AlternateNu posted:

I'm not surprised, but I'm glad they cut it.

Also, why datamine a Chinese copy of the game and post it on English social media w/o translation? >_>

I think with the current tools, only the Chinese version can be datamined.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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loquacius posted:

Does an All-Out Attack always get you more money than just demanding money does? I've never really been clear on this.

Also I looked around and found a way to cheese yourself some quick cash but it requires a request boss to still be alive and uh that is not the case for me right now lol

Its less that it gets you more money, but doing the instakill with Chihaya's money fortune is waaaaaaaay faster than getting into a battle, doing the knock downs and then shaking your enemies down for cash. Also I'm not sure that quick cash trick is still feasible in Royal, they changed how status ailments work in Royal so they don't last as long.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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SweetBro posted:

I def agree that P5 is a game that's carried pretty hard by it's aesthetic inspite of its pretty underwhelming mechanics. I think one of the best improvements that can be made to the game is so that Confidant Increase cut scenes didn't take up a time block. Instead they would automatically trigger whenever you had sufficient affinity with the relevant confidants. In the same note, the options you pick during those cut-scenes wouldn't affect their affinity. That way you would have actual reasons to go and hang out with people, as well as doing some of the side-activities early (like going to the Jazz Club). With a variety bonus if you go/do/gift something to a character that you haven't done before.

It would feel more organic to reward a player catering to a character's general preferences rather than just trying to figure out what they want to hear in the moment. Additionally it would encourage exploration of the overworld as you would be looking for new gifts to maintain that variety bonus.

Like it felt super loving weird when I was trying to level up Futaba's Confidant, and she wanted to hang out at my place. But I told her to gently caress off, because her confidant was already ready to level up, and that wasn't an effective use of my time.

You know, I think they did have the system set up to work like that in Devil Survivor 2.

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ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

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I believe they do give s link points, and you should play darts and max out Baton Pass ranks wherever possible. Baton Pass is waaaay more fun to use this time around.

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