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##action Sandwolf Hello friends, I will succeed at this game because I usually don’t know what I’m doing, so I’m used to it
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Apr 2, 2020 20:54
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Eat The Rich posted:What's this button do? Rich are you scum, as a fellow rich person hater you have to tell me
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Apr 2, 2020 22:31
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Someone make me and ETR confirmed masons
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Apr 2, 2020 23:12
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##vote gamer You fell perfectly into my gambit, idiot. Lunch all liars
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Apr 2, 2020 23:20
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##vote Steak
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Apr 2, 2020 23:40
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flerp posted:c u all tmrw
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Apr 2, 2020 23:41
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I can’t believe the scum team is Sand/Bif/Steak what a disaster
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Apr 3, 2020 00:56
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:What the duck is up my people? This is evening quarantine AA, yes... I've been drinking, so what? I already named the scum team please pay attention
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Apr 3, 2020 01:45
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Mr. Steak posted:i find it funny that a bunch of people voted me for the functional equivalent of "wait until later in the day to fire your lurker gun" Yeah it was about 20 peeps that voted for you
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Apr 3, 2020 01:54
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Gamerofthegame posted:fool I think Gamer is ~~manufacturing content~~ and doesn’t believe this case smh bag him and tag him
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Apr 3, 2020 02:54
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How do I vote two people at once
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Apr 3, 2020 16:05
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:So who is scum for real? Mr. Steak posted:i find it funny that a bunch of people voted me for the functional equivalent of "wait until later in the day to fire your lurker gun" I honestly think this is a scum post. Note that at the time Steak wrote this, two people had voted him for saying he wanted to wait (hum voted him earlier for running grudge reasons I guess). It reads as scum who is over exaggerating the danger they are in.
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Apr 3, 2020 16:41
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Do NOT insult my friend AA, who is an angel
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Apr 3, 2020 20:12
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Sand please shoot Bif she asked a question
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Apr 4, 2020 01:47
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The idea that anyone who used their action substantively thought about it is absurd
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Apr 4, 2020 02:01
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I refuse to keep up
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Apr 4, 2020 02:07
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Dragonatrix posted:YPM and Amni both voting for Steak for opting to not even try his action was a little odd I guess, but hard to call them serious or anything. Amni made his obvious at least by unvoting once jokephase ended. The initial vote was a joke, current vote is real
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Apr 4, 2020 02:45
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Amnistar posted:Okay, rereading the thread and I'm gonna ##vote YPM Hey friend I didn’t vote gamer for the manufacturing content bit. Also, look deep inside yourself. Are you really confused about the gamer manufacturing content thing? Do you really think I looked at gamer making what amounted to a lunch pun, and said to myself, “This is it. I’m going to lunch gamer. I’m going to get everyone to get rid of gamer on the back of my “he voted me for saying that the pantry mafia game was in another thread” case. You are reaching and I don’t think you actually did a reread.
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Apr 4, 2020 03:28
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Mr. Steak posted:what changed? I explained it already, you overreacted to the joke votes.
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Apr 4, 2020 03:50
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Amnistar posted:Sorry was I being unclear? What stances would you like me to clarify so that I may properly be held accountable?
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Apr 4, 2020 03:55
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Mr. Steak posted:oh yeah. i remember now. You know, I looked back at that post, I don’t think I actually said that my case was only that you incorrectly used the phrase “a bunch”
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Apr 4, 2020 03:56
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Your Personal Muse posted:You know, I looked back at that post, I don’t think I actually said that my case was only that you incorrectly used the phrase “a bunch” A fun fact: if you had said “two people” instead of “a bunch”, my case would be the same, if not stronger. You still took the time to defuse two joke votes.
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Apr 4, 2020 04:03
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Mr. Steak posted:drat, try making your case without being an rear end in a top hat about it I’m not sure how I was an rear end in a top hat, I was refuting your straw man argument. If I insulted you without realizing it, I’m sorry, truly, I don’t want mafia to become unpleasant and I would appreciate if you pointed out what I did to attack you that was unwarranted so I can rectify it in the future.
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Apr 4, 2020 06:52
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Mr. Steak posted:i thought you were doing it on purpose, so im sorry for jumping the gun. i didnt feel personally insulted, just talked down to. I did do it on purpose to try and point out that you were misrepresenting my case. I don’t think I have to be constrained to just saying I disagree with you, especially when it looks like you are intentionally and in bad faith distorting my case.
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Apr 4, 2020 07:46
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##unvote I no longer think Steak is scum. I disagree with his analysis that scum wouldn’t overreact to joke votes, since I think scum tend exaggerate the danger they are in, and I generally hate meta self defenses but I liked the cool down and the response was genuine. Amnistar posted:You have now, since pressure has been applied, taken a firmer stance that is accountable, but that does not change the fact that you behaved the way you did. What pressure? I promise you that I would have played the exact same way regardless, even without the one vote based on a flimsy case. The only reason I’m responding to the case is because I think it’s fabricated, and I’m trying to figure out whether it’s because you are town trying to generate content day 1 or scum looking for a place to park their vote. I still don’t know exactly what stances you thought I was trying to waffle on. I made the transition from joke to real vote very clear. So, what stances do you think I was
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Apr 4, 2020 18:37
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Mr. Steak posted:
drat, right after I unvoted him Steak did me dirty like this
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Apr 4, 2020 18:41
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I hate anyone who popped into say “wow Bif and YPM are both town because they made bad cases ~~crazy~~ bye”
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Apr 4, 2020 18:45
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Steak give us some scum reads so I feel better about unvoting you, you have mechanics talk and a lurker vote so far
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Apr 4, 2020 18:49
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Amnistar posted:People talking about your posting is pressure. Pressure is not always votes. Talking is only pressure if there is real worry from the target, otherwise it’s empty talk. There was literally zero threat from your case. Stop avoiding my question. You said I was slipping in and out of joke phase so that I could avoid scrutiny on my stances. What stances were those?
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Apr 4, 2020 20:21
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Amnistar posted:Being disengenious about what I am saying is a also scummy. I have already said what the things you were doing were, what stances you seemed to be joking and then not joking about. Ok but I didn’t vote for Gamer with the manufactured content thing. Again, do you really believe that anyone would say that was a serious case? That I was seriously casing him for making a lunch pun?
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Apr 4, 2020 20:36
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Your Personal Muse posted:Ok but I didn’t vote for Gamer with the manufactured content thing. Again, do you really believe that anyone would say that was a serious case? That I was seriously casing him for making a lunch pun? To clarify, you said I didn’t make a distinction between joke votes and serious votes and used my gamer vote and steak vote as examples. Let’s ignore that I didn’t actually vote gamer for what you said I voted for him for. When you made the case on me, I had explicitly said that my Steak vote was real due to his follow up, so I’m not sure who I could have theoretically wiggled out of that one. And I really don’t see how I could have used the gamer case to my advantage. Can someone else comment on Amin’s case?
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Apr 4, 2020 20:46
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Amnistar posted:I think you were 'joking' until such time as someone called you out on it, and then were going to stick with it, like you did with steak. When did someone call me out on Steak?
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Apr 4, 2020 20:47
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Bifauxnen posted:Yeah, I think you got a good point here. I'm just not feeling as all fired up about it like I am about my own case on Hum. I could still see this as a possibly town Amni making mistakes by working off vague memories instead of triple checking everything. As opposed to Hum where I can't see at all how a townie would give me the kind of responses he's given. I would tend to agree that this is town working off vague memories, but Amni specifically said it was a result of a reread.
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Apr 4, 2020 21:09
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Amnistar posted:I was looking at the "We got him, he's scum" and "How do I vote for 2 people" comments as posts that can be jokes, or not, based on what people respond to them. I assume we got him, he’s scum, is referring to when I listed the scum team, because otherwise I don’t know what you are talking about unless I missed a post. Those two posts are not what you mentioned in your initial case. Instead, you mentioned only my Steak and Gamer votes (of which one wasn’t actually a vote). In addition, my first serious post, which was clearly delineated, was AFTER those two posts so I you can’t say I was drifting in and out of joke phase for those two posts. Plus, you could say that about literally any post in joke phase ##vote Amni your case is fabricated and you are digging in a way that isn’t town trying to generate content. I don’t like the Solus lunch and that ETR post was awful
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Apr 4, 2020 21:56
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Amnistar posted:I called this out initially and you even responded that you didn't vote for Gamer with the post...so like...I'm confused why you're pulling a gotcha here. It’s not a gotcha I have just seen enough to conclude you don’t actually believe the case. And again, how can you look at that post, where I said that gamer was manufacturing content because he made a lunch pun by referencing pantry mafia, and conclude that I could make a real case out of it in a vacuum?
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Apr 4, 2020 22:53
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spacing in vienna posted:I can't tell if this post feels scummy to me because I disagree with it, or if it feels scummy to me because I'm not sure that you believe all of it. But it's ringing some bells. How are words alone pressure when there is zero threat behind those words? It annoys me that Amni is pretending like I couldn’t possibly just go after Steak because I thought something was there, no, it has to be because of the immense ~~pressure~~ I felt from his case which boils down to making some jokes
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Apr 4, 2020 22:55
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Gamerofthegame posted:this entire game is making words and using those words to make people vote with you Because pressure requires legitimate threat behind those words. You can attempt to apply pressure, but you won’t always succeed.
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Apr 4, 2020 22:59
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spacing in vienna posted:Ok the pressure thing might just be a difference of opinion, then, because I feel like there's an implicit threat in all the words of this game. Townies and scum make cases, people are swayed, and then lunches happen. I guess in my mind, there has to be some effect on the recipient for it to be pressure. If I had announced at the beginning of day 0 that I was a n0 cop and I had a scum result on Amni, there’s no pressure even though I said words that could conceivably result in Amni’s lunch. The game literally doesn’t allow for that claim, everyone knows it’s false. There’s no pressure But that has nothing to do with actual scum hunting. What do you think about Amni’s case on me, semantics aside? I think Amni fabricated the case. Compared to Sandwolf’s suspicion of me, which I believe for now, I just don’t see how someone could look at the posts in context and think that I was setting up outs for myself.
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Sandwolf posted:Those posts aren’t the reason I’m slightly suspicious of you, YPM, and I do agree with you that I think they’re a little bit extrapolating from your posts. I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to suggest that you agreed with Amni’s case, I meant that I believe you when you say that you find my posting style in general is scummy. When you say they are extrapolating, are you referring to Amni? And do you think it’s a town or a scum extrapolation?
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