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Master Twig
Oct 25, 2007

I want to branch out and I'm going to stick with it.


Schubalts posted:

Wanting to gently caress a horse-person is very different from wanting to gently caress an actual horse that would think of ants and die.

So what you're saying is that furries are somehow capable of giving consent?

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012



Arsenic Lupin posted:

A famous Civil War memoirist (sorry, forget her name) commented that Southern ladies knew who fathered every mixed-race child on every plantation except their own.

Mary Boykin Chestnut

quote:

I wonder if it be a sin to think slavery a curse to any land. Sumner said not one word of this hated institution which is not true. Men & women are punished when their masters & mistresses are brutes & not when they do wrong-& then we live surrounded by prostitutes. An abandoned woman is sent out of any decent house elsewhere. Who thinks any worse of a Negro or Mulatto woman for being a thing we can't name. God forgive us, but ours is a monstrous system & wrong & iniquity. Perhaps the rest of the world is as bad. This is only what I see: like the patriarchs of old, our men live all in one house with their wives & their concubines, & the Mulattos one sees in every family exactly resemble the white children-& every lady tells you who is the father of all the Mulatto children in everybody's household, but those in her own, she seems to think drop from the clouds or pretends so to think-. Good women we have, but they talk of nastiness tho they never do wrong; they talk day & night of -. My disgust sometimes is boiling over-but they are, I believe, in conduct the purest women God ever made. Thank God for my countrywomen-alas for the men! No worse than men everywhere, but the lower their mistresses, the more degraded they must be.

Yeah I’m not going to condone that paragraph in its entirety.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It is a powerful visual metaphor for my posting.


*holds up photo of Fabio in a rubber horse mask*

BEHOLD, A HORSE!

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss


Schubalts posted:

Wanting to gently caress a horse-person is very different from wanting to gently caress an actual horse that would think of ants and die.
Selling realistically modeled reproductions of real-life animal genitals seems like it probably promotes bestiality and normalizes the sexualization of animal anatomy but that's just imo

Six-Of-Hearts
Mar 17, 2009

"I want to break your heart, and give you mine."







PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017





Vib Rib posted:

Selling realistically modeled reproductions of real-life animal genitals seems like it probably promotes bestiality and normalizes the sexualization of animal anatomy but that's just imo
It's not that deep and most Bad Dragon stuff is fantasy afaik. Mostly people just like sticking weird shapes in their various orifices and have a decent grasp of fantasy vs reality. As for the people who don't have a great grasp of fantasy vs reality, I'd rather they stick to horse dildos than actually commit animal abuse. People who do not have any fantasy involving weird shaped dongs will simply not buy the dildos.

This isn't actually a defense of Bad Dragon, my understanding is they've done some pretty shady things re: sex toy production, but it's a little weird to assume sex toy production should just involve... what? Only humanoid anatomically correct dildos? Only abstract dildos? Fantasy dildos okay but if they're too close to a real animal they're not? Are dragons problematic?

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006




Soiled Meat

I help the sun move across the sky and they don't call me Kentauros the Sun Shepherd.

I slayed the beasts threatening the city of Athens and they don't call me Kentauros the Savior.


But you gently caress one species of animal enough to create a magical hybrid offspring race...

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

MESS WITH THE OWL GET DISEMBOWEL






KazigluBey
Oct 30, 2011

boner



Ugly In The Morning posted:

The guy who’s running it is basically a cult leader. He’s come up in the tankie/moonbat thread before, particularly after his rant about Anne Frank performed in joker makeup. He was kicked out of an organization he used to run for being a bit much, and for context on that, it was an organization that thought a random small plane crash near them was a CIA plot.

you're cruel for mentioning this but not posting it, top tier thread content:

https://twitter.com/BlkHmmrTimes/status/1353409325729910786

Down in the comments a stan is arguing this is a deeply religious performance from a certain place, only for someone from that place to chime in and say no, it's just lovely joker makeup.

Gazi Kodzo used to be Secretary General of the African People’s Socialist Party before being ousted in late 2018, now he spins various grifts, periodically tells everyone Anne Frank was a colonizer who deserved it and gets into arguments with the current Black Panther Party's leadership, who are convinced that he's either drawing a fed paycheck to act this way as part of whatever's the current name for COINTELPRO or if not then he's missing out lol

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It is a powerful visual metaphor for my posting.


PetraCore posted:

This isn't actually a defense of Bad Dragon, my understanding is they've done some pretty shady things re: sex toy production, but it's a little weird to assume sex toy production should just involve... what? Only humanoid anatomically correct dildos? Only abstract dildos? Fantasy dildos okay but if they're too close to a real animal they're not? Are dragons problematic?

Douche Wolf 89
Dec 9, 2010



Schubalts posted:

Wanting to gently caress a horse-person is very different from wanting to gently caress an actual horse that would think of ants and die.

Yes? That's not what I'm saying though. The creators of that dildo company host a site with (and maybe draw?) depictions of beastiality in addition to garden variety furry stuff. The dildos are just dildos, but I wouldn't be surprised if the creators want to gently caress an actual horse.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017





Douche Wolf 89 posted:

Yes? That's not what I'm saying though. The creators of that dildo company host a site with (and maybe draw?) depictions of beastiality in addition to garden variety furry stuff. The dildos are just dildos, but I wouldn't be surprised if the creators want to gently caress an actual horse.
Ah well, just another brick in the wall of Bad Dragon being unironically bad. I think the legality of cartoon depictions is a gray area which is why it hasn't been taken down, but still.

EDIT: My other thing I'd heard is there have been times they'd stolen dildo designs from indie dildo designers under the blanket of 'we're a big company with the money to do a legal battle and we tweaked two things about it, gently caress off'.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 11, 2012

This particularly rapid unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter.





I can't bring cites, but the last time this came up in another SA thread, somebody else did have cites to prove that Bad Dragon's current owners are associated with another site full of actual zoophilia. I really don't want to do the googling to back this up, so treat this as unverified hearsay.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008




Buglord

PetraCore posted:

Ah well, just another brick in the wall of Bad Dragon being unironically bad.

Come on, dick in the wall was right there.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017





Fister Roboto posted:

Come on, dick in the wall was right there.
gently caress

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand], I require only that you [kneel]



i liked this reply:

https://twitter.com/2ndBestAndrew/status/1389017015462006790?s=20

Queen Gnome
Jul 30, 2006

Her Lawnliness


PetraCore posted:

Ah well, just another brick in the wall of Bad Dragon being unironically bad. I think the legality of cartoon depictions is a gray area which is why it hasn't been taken down, but still.

EDIT: My other thing I'd heard is there have been times they'd stolen dildo designs from indie dildo designers under the blanket of 'we're a big company with the money to do a legal battle and we tweaked two things about it, gently caress off'.

'Indie dildo designers' has a ring to it

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!



Just imagine I photoshopped out the beanie babies and it’s just two people on an empty floor, and that’s about right.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004





Arguing over who gets the right to claim ownership to a broken jpg link. What an exciting future lies ahead of us.

Syd Midnight
Sep 23, 2005



NFTs are the ultimate expression of greed. Like a little kid getting a label maker and walking around sticking a piece of tape with their name on it on everything. There is absolutely nothing to them besides "Mine! Mine! MINE!" and horrific amounts of pollution. You'd have to stop and think for a few moments if you wanted to make up something that genuinely bad.

I mean seriously there's plenty of fantasy novels where the cursed magic artifact the heroes are battling against has nowhere near the evilmaking potential of NFTs.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019



Arsenic Lupin posted:

I can't bring cites, but the last time this came up in another SA thread, somebody else did have cites to prove that Bad Dragon's current owners are associated with another site full of actual zoophilia. I really don't want to do the googling to back this up, so treat this as unverified hearsay.

Yeah, the owner of Bad Dragon independently hosted herpy.net which was for people uploading pictures of snakes loving (each other). He took it down in I wanna say 2015?
Around the same time Bad Dragon underwent a marketing spin from a store for furries to market to the „fantasy” market at large, which is why the website no longer has like, furry porn on it or the hornt stories as character fluff for each toy.

They’re a pretty lovely company though. Low quality of silicone molds, rampant design theft, the aforementioned thing with Varka and the other shareholder who was charged for bestiality, and also they host e621 which is a general hub of art theft and transphobia.

There are better places to get dragon dicks from.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

Capitalism in a nutshell: "There are better places to get Dragon Dicks from"

Heath
Apr 29, 2008



The invisible neon dick of the market

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005
ENGLISH VA WORK IN DUBS USUALLY SUCKS BIG TIME


IOSM: There Are Better Places To Get Dragon Dicks

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012



Heath
Apr 29, 2008



(sees a BLM sign in someone's yard) (slamming on steering wheel) That tears it. I'm a racist now.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss


goblin week posted:

e621 which is a general hub of art theft and transphobia.
E621 is a furry porn gallery aggregate AFAIR, how do they cram transphobia into an image hosting site? Is it just that they host or spotlight a bunch of transphobic artists?

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

Gotta nuke something


I'll applaud NFT's for at least giving us this, something I've been giggling at like a dork for days now.


Gizmo Chicken
Feb 17, 2011

Yep.


https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1020039128291786752

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It is a powerful visual metaphor for my posting.


It works if you swap "was never" with "never identified as" and that is a remarkably difficult separation for a lot of people to understand in themselves, although they often seem very animated about the distinction in other people.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012



Vib Rib posted:

E621 is a furry porn gallery aggregate AFAIR, how do they cram transphobia into an image hosting site? Is it just that they host or spotlight a bunch of transphobic artists?

I’m guessing slurs.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019



Vib Rib posted:

E621 is a furry porn gallery aggregate AFAIR, how do they cram transphobia into an image hosting site? Is it just that they host or spotlight a bunch of transphobic artists?

Basically, the tagging system is „tag what you see”, with no allowance for what wikipedia would call „original research”. So all pictures featuring trans characters are tagged with respective slurs like dickgirl or cuntboy ir shemale and the umbrella tag of „intersex”, and despite this being something brought up by users and artists alike the admins said that it’s fine stop worrying so much.
It led to a lot of artists disavowing e621 and putting themselves on the do not post list, which, to the website’s credit, is respected.

Picnic Princess
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die




goblin week
Jan 26, 2019



https://twitter.com/christapeterso/status/1389441178320269312

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010

So pat yourself on the back and give yourself a handshake
'Cause everything is not yet lost




Pillbug


From the quotes thread:

Paladinus posted:

For some context, Grigory Grabovoy is a Russian cult leader and a convicted fraud. He promised parents to resurrect their dead children, most notably those who died in the Beslan terrorist attack. He collected millions from them, and then said, basically, that their children's energy passed to the worms in their graves and that's the resurrection. He's the absolute scum, and the fact that zoomers, outside of Russia no less, use his quack reality hacks is frankly distressing.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019



Well, that’s substantially less funny

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It is a powerful visual metaphor for my posting.


If you put the right code in then herobrine will visit your minecraft world. It's real I saw it on youtube.

Kids always do that sort of daft poo poo lol.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




OwlFancier posted:

If you put the right code in then herobrine will visit your minecraft world. It's real I saw it on youtube.

Kids always do that sort of daft poo poo lol.

Yeah, it's just a digital version of bloody mary (who my friend's friend totally saw and then lost all her hair). It being started by an incredibly ghoulish Russian con man makes it either much funnier or much darker. I'm not sure which.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005



If you get the codes wrong a flock of cranes will fly in and mess up your pots and pans!!!

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Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010

So pat yourself on the back and give yourself a handshake
'Cause everything is not yet lost




Pillbug

Skwirl posted:

Yeah, it's just a digital version of bloody mary (who my friend's friend totally saw and then lost all her hair). It being started by an incredibly ghoulish Russian con man makes it either much funnier or much darker. I'm not sure which.

Put me down for “both”

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