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bony tony posted:In a lot of cases, when a trans woman comes out, a lesbian is born. It's the law of conservation of lesbians. Gonna go out on a limb and guess she's not as welcoming of those lesbians as other ones.
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Pththya-lyi posted:"Defund the police" isn't hard to understand, it's just that people like Obama don't want to do it. You say that but I've heard so many people claim it means different things. There seem to be 2 main camps, those who mean what they said, defund and thus dismantle. And those who want to reduce funding and reallocate it somewhere else. The later group probably shouldn't have borrowed the slogan of the former.
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Mega Comrade posted:You say that but I've heard so many people claim it means different things. There seem to be 2 main camps, those who mean what they said, defund and thus dismantle. And those who want to reduce funding and reallocate it somewhere else. Those aren't two different things though? The "first group" (they're actually all the same group) also wants to reallocate those funds elsewhere. No one is saying "just disband the police and see what happens".
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Tiggum posted:No one is saying "just disband the police and see what happens". Some extremely online types are in fact actually saying this. My own worthless opinion is that a better slogan is "demilitarize the police", prioritizing the objective over the method.
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cage-free egghead posted:https://radioinsight.com/headlines/201819/st-cloud-morning-host-exits-after-misogynistic-attacks-on-des-moines-host/ Holy poo poo. That's a remarkable composite of arrogant dickishness and total inability to see the likely outcome of his actions.
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Beat cops are functionally useless and should be disbanded immediately unless your goal is random shootings and government entities funded by traffic fines. Also, gently caress everyone who says "yes the speed limit is 75 but everyone's going 85 so go 85" cause I've probably paid 1000+ bucks to bumfuck Texas counties for following that rule and being the one unfortunate car that the local deputy decides to slap with a ticket. And ate a several hundred dollar ticket in upstate NY for the same drat thing around Watertown. I'm proud to be the rear end in a top hat on cruise control at the speed limit in the right lane.
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Tiggum posted:Those aren't two different things though? The "first group" (they're actually all the same group) also wants to reallocate those funds elsewhere. No one is saying "just disband the police and see what happens". Well some definitely are but even if we pretend they aren't you still have 2 groups. The police abolitionists and those who want a reduced police with less responsibilities. Both result in new community solutions for problems traditionally dealt with by the police, but the police still exist in one, just in a reduced capacity. You might be able to get the Democrats to accept a reduced police and more community support, but they will never agree to abolition. Mega Comrade has a new favorite as of 10:02 on Dec 2, 2020 |
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maybe we should have gone with "make the police stop fuckin killin people/pets all the goddamn time" for a clearer message
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Some extremely online types are in fact actually saying this. "Demilitarize the police" tends to translate into "spend more money on the police for sensitivity training." Defund the police is a perfectly fine slogan, the only people who actually think it's too extreme also think George Floyd had it coming.
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Mega Comrade posted:Well some definitely are but even if we pretend they aren't you still have 2 groups. You ask for abolition and compromise on reduction, when there's no increase in crime and eventually a serious decrease because the money previously being wasted on cops is going towards things that actually do prevent crime then you start talking about abolition again.
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Skwirl posted:"Demilitarize the police" tends to translate into "spend more money on the police for sensitivity training." Read that as dematerialize lol Made me think of shooting police with Sci fi guns
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Mega Comrade posted:Read that as dematerialize lol i'm onboard
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Mega Comrade posted:Read that as dematerialize lol I'm game! ^^^ better username/post combo from that goon though ^^^
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Gats Akimbo posted:I'm game! lol DEMATERIALIZE THE POLICE 
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Light Gun Man posted:lol 
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That's another reason 'demilitarize the police' doesn't work as a slogan. You don't want your big line (especially when it's supposed to be the less extreme option) to be misheard as something much more extreme, cooler and more interesting.
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Seems beyond the scope of IOSM to post TERFs, that's just unfunny bigotry
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The most likely thing is the police will officially change their name from “police” to something else and then say the police are gone, an absolute power move
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This is the rare wholesome idiot on social media that I truly appreciate.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Some extremely online types are in fact actually saying this. Hell, I've been saying that for like 15 years now
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Mega Comrade posted:Read that as dematerialize lol 
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Light Gun Man posted:maybe we should have gone with "make the police stop fuckin killin people/pets all the goddamn time" for a clearer message Try to be a little bit realistic.
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hawowanlawow posted:can't make it through one tweet without talking about themselves I’m a trans women are women is the hill you will find me on blazing sword in hand old cis lesbian and tbh she sounds exhausting.
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Light Gun Man posted:maybe we should have gone with "make the police stop fuckin killin people/pets all the goddamn time" for a clearer message We did that. The response was "Nuh-uh, cops' lives matter."
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people are literally too stupid to understand the English language. black lives matter as a response to the implication that they don't matter was way too complicated for them, and so is the concept that defund can mean anything from one percent less money to one hundred percent less money they're just too stupid for anything to be understandable by everyone, you can only do the best you can
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hawowanlawow posted:people are literally too stupid to understand the English language. black lives matter as a response to the implication that they don't matter was way too complicated for them, and so is the concept that defund can mean anything from one percent less money to one hundred percent less money Might not be a matter of stupidity, it's more that "Well I know they SAY it's a response to the implication that black lives don't matter, but that is uncomfortable for me to think about and this guy I work with said it really means white lives don't matter, and getting mad about that is more comfortable for me than confronting the ways in which I might be contributing to systemic racism, so I'm just gonna ignore the obvious meaning and embrace the sinister one" But that's an even worse slogan to chant
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RoboRodent posted:
nono I'm sure if we're polite enough the racists will stop supporting white supremacy
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my argument was against changing the slogan. they either know what they're doing and are just racist, or are too stupid to be helped and it's pointless trying to cater to them
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Absolutely livid now that Elliot Page is a straight white male!
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PetraCore posted:That type of OCD is absolutely a thing, I have a friend who experiences similar symptoms about something she'd never do when she hits certain stress levels, and I think it's actually a good thing to talk about more openly because there's definitely people who have it who don't realize they're experiencing a known mental illness symptom of something that's not their fault rather than, like, just being a terrible person who can't stop thinking about terrible things. I have GAD and intrusive thoughts are definitely a thing for me. But there is a big difference between publicly talking about how you feel intense guilt that you're going to be thought of as stealing something even if you would never steal and publicaly talking about worrying about diddling a kid when you'd never do that. One is relatable and possibly easier for people to go "Ooooooh now I get it. Wow, that's a lot." and the other is going to lead to serious stink face, weird looks, and rumors. If you're trying to have a discourse to make people understand the weird and awful things your brain does, maybe don't try to relate to someone on the kid diddling thoughts.
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The whole argument about "Oh they know!" and stuff kinda ignores that racist people and right-wingers aren't a hive mind. Some of them can be argued down politely (particularly if they give a poo poo about you, personally), some of them are 100% operating in bad faith and will only respond to a punch in the face to get them to shut up. There's no single argument that will work on everyone.
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Dear Prudence posted:I have GAD and intrusive thoughts are definitely a thing for me. But there is a big difference between publicly talking about how you feel intense guilt that you're going to be thought of as stealing something even if you would never steal and publicaly talking about worrying about diddling a kid when you'd never do that. One is relatable and possibly easier for people to go "Ooooooh now I get it. Wow, that's a lot." and the other is going to lead to serious stink face, weird looks, and rumors. If you're trying to have a discourse to make people understand the weird and awful things your brain does, maybe don't try to relate to someone on the kid diddling thoughts. Or at the very least, don't do it two months after you published an article about how we should get rid of age of consent laws.
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