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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


EasilyConfused posted:

Edit: For the record, I've literally never met a liberal who hates socialists more than fascists and I've been a socialist for decades.

To clarify this one, because I think you're sort of misunderstanding what someone means when they say this, this is more referring to those people who, sure, nominally hate fascism and fascist tendencies more, and maybe they do, but they sure speak out a whole lot more often against the socialists they supposedly aren't that heavily in disagreement with.

So, 'more' as in 'more often', not as in 'harder'. You actually see it a whole lot in Australian politics, where it seems like a sect of the center-left Labor party and their supporters pull the knives out about the further-left Greens a whole lot more readily than they do against the parties that actually oppose them.

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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


Wow, I thought 'deep state' was a metaphorical term. I didn't know they literally thought Trump was at war with mole people.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


TinTower posted:



Tired: 5G is giving people the rona.
Wired: 5G is a CIA plot to make the kids trans.

God damnit people, stop being so stupid you make me have to defend 5G!

As far as I'm aware, 5G's main use case as a wireless spectrum is for a bunch of IoT and smart home stuff, which I think we were better off without. For everything else, it's not really useful enough to implement over already-existing technologies. But I can't even research that fact to confirm it, let alone say anything about it in good conscience, because the main anti-5G arguments are this kind of nonsense.

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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


Captain Monkey posted:

Outing myself and generating thread content, but I've always felt the whole 'Karen' thing was more than a bit misogynistic. I'm not sure that I'd agree that it had class connotations though.

I mean, I do, because the collective image of 'a Karen' as I've understood it is definitely upper-class, or upper-middle at its lowest. 'Karen' describes that sort of older woman who never really seems happy about anything and is always super judgemental of others they see as 'below' them. It's 'I need to speak to your manager' with a larger purview, they're also the moms who give teachers hell and the people who apparently aren't racist but are very scared of black youths. It's definitely an image that I associate with a certain social class.

I suppose there's a sexist element, too, because it is really levelled at women, but I think it's because while that sort of person does exist among men, it manifests very differently.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


Skwirl posted:

https://twitter.com/ericacbarnett/s...3685820416?s=19

Conner is currently in the lead for the male equivalent.

I'm okay with Conner, because Colton sounds too unique and Cody sounds too young.

A male Karen equivalent, I think, has to be a name you could find multiple people having at a golf or sailing club.

EDIT: a lot of people in the replies saying 'Chad', which would be perfect if the incels hadn't gotten to it first. Chad definitely fights with coaches at their kid's Little League matches and then goes to play golf.

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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

Like a bull in a china shop.

Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


BrigadierSensible posted:

I know Karen only as a "can I speak to the manager?", or the kind of person who sends food back and gets lovely at the underpaid wait staff kind of person. I didn't know that Karen also meant the white woman who called the cops on the black family having a BBQ, (was her name in real life Karen?).

From what I gather, that latter person would be a Becky. So like, Karen's just generally a super-privileged white woman who looks down on everyone, but Becky specifically attacks black people minding their own business.

I might have this entirely wrong, though, because I'm not even American.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.



Lady, those are the calls you hope for in phone banking, because they're a loving trip. Most phone banking calls are people who have never thought about politics beyond 'well I care about education, I guess' and you trying to turn that into getting them to do literally anything at all after the call ends that isn't forgetting you just talked to them.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


I mean, I read new rule not as 'don't post politics', but 'don't be boring and performative about it'.

We can post political social media idiocy without going off into the boring stock responses or arguments.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


RareAcumen posted:

Possibly a troll because I don't use ResetEra and have no idea what it's like but if that's the case then the comments definitely count!

https://twitter.com/ReeraTakes/stat...411323049725952

I haven't played the FF7 remake (and have no real intention to because I have very strong and nerd-rear end opinions about the fact they shouldn't have made it), but I'm gonna say that OP's probably got a very legitimate complaint going on there. Barrett's always been basically 'late 90s Japan's attempt to write a black guy from a 70s action franchise', I'm really not surprised to hear that they weren't able to excise that. Especially since it looked like the black guy they're basing him on to still be one that's several decades out of date.

FF7's remake and Doom Eternal are basically tag-teaming the role of 'big new pop culture thing you're not allowed to criticize' right now. It's kinda fascinating how you get two entirely different types of angry nerd depending on which one you speak out against.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


IncredibleIgloo posted:

I am unfamiliar with the Doom Eternal criticism, can you share more about that?

Oh, it's not even that Doom Eternal is doing anything egregiously wrong or anything. It's just that the internet's in that state right now where if you have a problem with Doom Eternal then the response is a disproportionate 'how DARE YOU'. In kinda the same way as how for a decent stretch of last year you couldn't say anything negative about Avengers Endgame.

I just think it's really interesting how Doom's fans are really performatively Mad if you speak against their game, while the FF7 remake's fans are very performatively Not Mad if you do the same with theirs.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


Screaming Idiot posted:

Tumblr deserves to get poo poo on because of the neonazi propaganda and child porn they hosted and continue to host even after they banned FEMALE-PRESENTING NIPPLES.

Like, cool, you ran off, like, 90% of your users and the remaining 10% either post SFW stuff or stuff that's legitimately horrible but your lovely bots can't detect it.

Oh, you can poo poo on Tumblr as a business, they've consistently been incompetent at best.

But making GBS threads on Tumblr as a community is just kinda old hat at this point, they've always proven to be generally harmless people, usually with their heart in the right place even if they're idiots. We have all learned very, very, VERY well at this point that their kind of social media idiocy was far from the worst kind, and the fact that the 'ridiculing idiots' corner of the internet kinda gave it both barrels probably wasn't a good angle in retrospect, when certain other social media idiots around at the time proved to be far worse.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


PetraCore posted:

I shouldn't have tried to give that guy the benefit of the doubt. How did he interpret what I said as minimizing? Because I didn't agree that women were the problem?

Saying that he 'interpeted what you said as minimizing' implies that he paid attention to it at all.

He's an rear end in a top hat deliberately-bad-faith arguer that's not worth paying attention to in any thread he turns up in, because he always pulls stuff adjacent to this.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


Data Graham posted:

Does ... she mean overstated

I can kinda buy it from both directions, since you can clearly get her intent. 'It's impossible to say this too loudly' versus 'you're not allowed to downplay this'.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


At least they gave the kid a usable name in there somewhere, they can use 'Sasha' with no troubles.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


hooman posted:

I bet the baby speedruns are garbage though. 18 years? gently caress me, a little optimisation?

There used to be exploits you could use to cut it down to about fourteen, even lower if you did the really risky strategies, but most of speedrunning has moved on to newer versions that don't have those exploits for compatibility reasons.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.



Wow, I can't think of a more perfect pairing than Grimes and that game, they both claim to be 'cyberpunk' to some degree but have, if anything, negative credentials. I'm genuinely a little impressed.

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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


MageMage posted:

Do they really call it "queer" studies? Why would any academic institution reclaim a slur like that?

Very quick rundown on this one as I understand it, as someone super involved with queer activism and politics rather than academics:

A: It has been more or less successfully reclaimed. These days the complaints about using the term are less 'it's offensive' and more 'I don't personally associate with the modern political connotations of the word'. Since queer studies/politics inherently have the same political charge that the term 'queer' has in the modern day, it's not too bad in these contexts, but talking about an individual who might just be trying to live their life and happens to be gay, you might not use it there.

B: There's not actually a better term for the general umbrella. You'll see a bunch of different permutations of the acronym depending on who you're talking to, and both who they consider to be part of the community or what they're specifically referring to; personally people I associate with generally use 'LGBTIQ+', because I'm involved in politics so there's a lot of interlocking issues to talk about, but also sometimes an 'A' jumps in there for any number of reasons. So when you're talking about the whole sphere, and again, specifically in the political environments that you'd refer to as 'queer', there's basically no bettter option than just going with 'queer'.

That might, and probably will, change over time! But that's what it is now.

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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


Neopie posted:

Y'all mage mage does not post in good faith you don't need to explain poo poo to someone who's sealioning as an excuse to drop slurs.

Yeah, I know they're a bad faith poster, but honestly this is something that came up in real life circles like, this week, so I thought it worth saying to clear up the 'hey wait, actually' response.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


Mamkute posted:

Is Big Shark a talking shark, a dude with shark powers, or is that just his name?

In the comics, King Shark is the son of the Shark God. The only version that really deviates from this is in the DC CW shows, where he's instead a man who planned to splice his DNA with that of a shark to cure cancer, whose plan only failed because a particle accelerator exploded and gave him largely unrelated mutations that turned him into a shark-man.

His CW form is also voiced by David Hayter.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

Like a bull in a china shop.

Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


I learned that Father Investment wasn't real when I was like, seven. And frankly I think that's still far too old to be believing in the man that sneaks into your house on End Of Financial Year Eve to give you sound financial advice.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


BioEnchanted posted:

I was thinking they were a hotep, seemed very "The white man has hosed up our culture!" kind of thing.

Yeah, it's likely either this exactly, or so close as to be indistinguishable. It seems less Africa-centric and more indigenous-centric, though.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.



Okay, I need to recommend that people click through on this one, because there's some gold below the fold here, and it isn't anything like what you expect.

holy poo poo it's not giving them photography or catering services 'for exposure' or even giving them a venue for exposure. They want people to be armed guards for exposure.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


TheMostFrench posted:

Usually when I walk past places like this they're wearing masks and gloves anyway because cleaning feet is already gross?

Also if they handle nail polish, that's a whole lot of fumes to be around for your whole day.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Fishstick posted:

It's the convenient way in which they can still label themselves as a Christian (and therefore Are Good People) without having to actually bother with pesky Christian tenets that require effort, time, or sacrifice.

That makes sense, but my guess was that one of them is a series of beliefs about the world, life, creation and the beyond.

While the other one is right.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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TinTower posted:

https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1264992175747665921

Trans women famously not loving other trans women ever.

That's like, as wrong as it can possibly be.

I can apparently only date other trans women. Which isn't great, because it seems like around seventy percent of them in this city are in the same network of polycules.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Agents are GO! posted:

I gotta be honest, I get tired of people redacting these crazy assholes info. Name and shame.

Bad idea in this case, for his daughters' sake if nothing else.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Bobby Digital posted:

Deleted pretty quickly but I grabbed a screenshot while it was up



Rosa Diaz is a fictional character, god damnit.

And would probably be one of the people most worth shouting at in an event like this.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


GreenMetalSun posted:



Care to back those numbers up?

Yes, absolutely, 94% of black men are murdered by other black men, that seems legit.

I just need to know if this is an equal share among the other 6%, or if it's just like, Arsenio Hall being on a loving roll.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Kevin DuBrow posted:

SonicFox is a pro gamer? What about him makes these people so mad?

He's a gay black furry who turns up to matches in a fursuit and still kicks insane amounts of rear end.

EDIT: He's also pretty open with his political beliefs (they're pretty good), but really I think the main thing is just that he's out, proud, and nobody can 'put him in his place' because he's just a TERRIFYINGLY good player.

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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


Wait... do they think Chris Brown is a trans woman? That Rhianna's a trans woman? That George Floyd is a trans woman?

They went hard on the transphobia/transmisogyny/TERF line, but it comes out of loving NOWHERE.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


CharlestheHammer posted:

That is the opinion you will find more and more the more hardcore a historical strategy game is.

So I donít get the dig at paradox considering itís the most mainstream of the genre.

Wait is this a hipster thing

I mean, the fact that it's a Paradox player explains all of that. Like you said, Paradox are a big purveyor of that kinda game these days, which means their fanbases have a TON of these sorts of people.

Hell, the only thing I was going to add was that Paradox are generally a cool company that disagrees with these sorts of people, they are so much cooler than you'd expect from their fanbase.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.



Whenever I see Australian responses like this around a mostly American (or British, or Canadian) context, I'm always struck by how much more vicious they sound. I don't think it's because it's coming from a place of greater hate than it is in other countries, but the Australian culture feels so much more permissive of more hateful and violent language. It's weird, because I don't really think it's reflected in actions.

It's weird to have this come up around tone arguments, because FUUUUUUUUCK does the average Australian lose a normal tone argument... and yet, yeah, like you said, the same stuff applies.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


Skwirl posted:

TLOU2 has a female protagonist right? That alone is enough for most of them to call it an SJW cuck simp game.

Yeah, and she's a lesbian, too. And because the game isn't out yet (I think it releases in like, an hour) there's a LOT of white noise and no signal to compete against it.

There might be real bad poo poo in it, but we don't really know yet. There was a story leak people got mad about, but nothing yet to actually substantiate it.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


Skwirl posted:

Does he think city police are who deals with bears wandering into town?

They'll do until St. Paul puts together a Bear Patrol.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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I mean, Ms. Pac-Man beat all three of them.

Also Mach Rider, weirdly enough.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Context: Cody Johnston's show Some More News did a video about how John Krasinski's 'good news' show is bad in just about every way it could be bad, and also how John's probably a bad person.

https://twitter.com/drmistercody/st...9421421568?s=19

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


Meanwhile it took me until this debate to realize the original tweet photo was in a restaurant, and not some guy having ordered a delivery of fajitas to his home and being just STUCK about how to handle the fact they didn't provide cheese.

My first mistake was presuming someone entitled in the present day would be adequately avoiding their chance of infection.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Well, if the bull owned the china shop.


Mikl posted:

What the hell is this (I assume) dude going on about? I've driven a car literally half my life and the only time I got into an "accident" is when I accidentally steered into a pole while getting out of a tricky parking spot.

What he thinks he's saying is that, if your life involves you owning a gun with the intent of using it (whether that's for just protection or as part of a job I'm not entirely clear, he's inconsistent), you should have some rate of accidentally discharging, because always taking precautions against accidentally discharging means that in the event you actually have to use the thing, you won't be ready as quickly as you'll need to be.

What he's actually saying is that he's a dumbshit who's definitely accidentally shot his car, TV, or possibly dog.

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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Inceltown posted:

Just lol'ing at the idea of Australia having a gang problem. Aside from the rich that is.

No but you see, BIKIES

There may or may not be actual gangs in Australia, but by god are the Australian government scared of bikies. The Freep thread will often point out that biker gangs are their go-to 'scary people that everyone would respect the authority of if they protested', and it feels like the Australian government is the perfect inversion of that, where they literally cannot think of any other type of domestic group to be scared of.

I can't even think of a single news story in my lifetime that actually had 'bikies' doing anything.

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Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010

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Skwirl posted:

Who the gently caress gets a floral arrangement for a first date?

From the display name 'plant papa' I'm guessing he's into plants and gardening. That doesn't feel so bad to me, it's less 'blind, flagrant romanticism' and more 'sharing something you love in a way that's nicely romantic'.

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