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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Being an american kid circa 2000 and arguing about how to pronounce Hermione was a real blast.


I genuinely had no idea how to pronounce it until the first movie.

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Angepain posted:

Section 28 (basically the UK's school "don't say gay" law for those outside terf island) was still around until after book 3 in Scotland and after book 5 in the rest of the UK. Imagine her actually using her power and influence to put even the slightest mention of gay people in her books before then. I mean it's not like she had much of an editor by that point

I'm American, so I didn't even know about section 28 until after it was gone, but I thought it was gone well before Harry Potter was a thing. I watched the movie loving Amal before I read a single Harry Potter book.

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Boba Pearl posted:

Wait, I thought there was a secrecy thing that if you use magic in a muggle village the govt. gets a warning, wasn't that the whole reason Harry had to go to wizarding court?

I think you have to get caught or something? And there was a rule against younger kids using magic during the summer break?

People give JK Rowling poo poo for the magicking away poop thing (pun intended), but there's been times I've been on public transit a couple stops from home and while it wasn't an emergency, it was uncomfortable.

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Zoran posted:

What was the excuse?

They were stuck in a cave between like the 1800s up until the 50s IIRC.

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Sydin posted:

The now-deleted Pottermore article about how Hermione is wrong for seeking a systemic change to slavery addresses this by saying "yeah well Dobby's a weirdo, all races have their weirdos."

Clearly Dobby was mentally ill, suffering from the debilitating condition of drapetomania.

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Robot Style posted:

So according to Wikipedia, the plot of the new movie revolves around Grindelwald running for International Magic President, and getting his people to assassinate the other candidates so he wins by default. And it's not even an election that people vote in - some random magic animal that can tell if people are "pure of heart" decides who wins the election. You'd think that assassinating his competition would kind of preclude him from having a pure heart, but apparently he just uses necromancy on a dead animal to make it choose him anyway.

It's not surprising that the Wizard world is so hosed up if this is their electoral process.

I mean, is that really any dumber than the electoral college? (Yes it absolutely is, however much I hate the electoral college)

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Feldegast42 posted:

Also what was Dumbledore's secret in the end?

Something about "The Jews" probably.

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Rotten Red Rod posted:

The script was leaked a while ago and it proved to be totally real. So yeah, that's what happens. Dumbledore's big plan is to bring the one remaining live magic deer to the magic president crowning ceremony so he can prove Grindlewald's one is a fake (it's a zombie controlled by Grindlewald). They do this by having groups of the protagonists carry identical briefcases, only one of which has the deer, to misdirect Grindlewald's minions. So once again it's barely about Newt at all.

Also the blood bond that keeps Grindlewald and Dumbledore from fighting gets broken at some point, so they can totally have their duel now. It's all just setup for later movies once again.


The surprise success of the MCU absolutely broke every film executive's brains.

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josh04 posted:

Would people be broadly in favour of this thread being a spoiler-allowed zone? The title would be "Harry Potter and the Spoilers of Dumbledore".

I don't particularly care either way, if I ever watch the new movie it will be well past the time it'd be reasonable for me to complain about spoilers.

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I don't get why Rowling is writing the movies. I'd just let other people do it and cash the checks. Of course I also wouldn't be on twitter at all, let alone making TERF statements constantly even if I did believe that bullshit, so clearly her brain functions completely differently than mine.

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I wonder what they called the Japanese magic school in Japanese translations of Goblet of Fire. Did they just phonetically spell out the English phrase "Magic School" in Japanese characters?

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Grundulum posted:

Tbf doesn’t this also apply to virtually every character in the original books who is old enough to have a job? Assuming they didn’t whole-heartedly side with Voldemort in the first place.

But this is a character featured prominently in the first two movies (I think? I haven't actually seen them). Like when they sidelined Kelly Marie Tran in Rise of Skywalker in response to the insanely racist internet hatred of her (although that one could just be JJ Abrams had no idea what to do with her and he was both under intense deadlines and not that great of a writer to begin with).

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Oh for gently caress's sake

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1513900246333591552?s=20&t=rHmmIXJ-DGd-GqHADzs_mA

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Rotten Red Rod posted:

Fantastic Beasts getting its rear end kicked by Sonic 2 in the box office would just make my year

Oh gently caress, you're right. Now I have to watch Sonic 2.

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Piell posted:

there are exactly 6 gay seconds in this movie
https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1513904775905124357

Holy poo poo, that's about as much gay content as Endgame had and everyone rightfully made fun of them bragging about that.

Rotten Red Rod posted:

Lol and everyone expected there to be a kiss in the movie, but instead they just mention it once

Is the movie even going to get released in China? Hasn't China essentially closed itself off from everything but Chinese releases for the last few years, or did that stop?

Edit: oh it looks like they only get 34 foreign movies a year, and WB gets more of those slots than anyone else (6 in 2021). And Chinese entities get the lion's share of the profit.

If they got the first two I'm sure they'll get this one. If they didn't there's no way they'd get this one.

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Rotten Red Rod posted:

Apparently what happened is someone had the idea to make a documentary-style movie about Newt, and JK Rowling stepped in and totally overhauled the whole project. What's unsaid is she clearly has no interest in the Fantastic Beasts part (or at least lost interest after movie 1) and viewed it as vehicle to tell the Dumbledore story she's clearly much more interested in.

See that original idea is something I'd be interested in, like a Planet Earth but for fantasy creatures. gently caress, it'd probably be as popular as Planet Earth among college students super high and muting it while playing Sigur Ros was when I was a college student.

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https://twitter.com/HPANA/status/1513902822986858501?t=Qmn2-SQ4vorXvHBx0xGbAw&s=19


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLyX4DbE6Hc

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I Love Loosies posted:

lol no even if you can get the actors back and why should they, the adventures of middle age Dad Harry Potter would be very different than lonley orphan discovers he is magic.

Also everybody saying they should have just made a doc about magical animals and it would have made bank is kidding themselve. Maybe as a limited streaming show but never a tentpole international Blockbuster. Those need some real stake

I don't think that's what they would actually do, but something like this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crocodile_Hunter:_Collision_Course

but with magical creatures could work.

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RoboChrist 9000 posted:

It's anyone, not just women. Her ire is most pronounced against women, because Rowling is a misogynist, but it's really a universal rule. The Shrieking Shack bring it up; if you're anything more than a 6 or less than a 4 you're evil.

It's funny because the movies are filled with objectively handsome/beautiful people. Like Rupert Grint was kinda gangly in the first few films, but puberty was kind to him and Daniel Radcliff and Emma Watson were just adorable at the start and are very good looking adults. His costume didn't do him any favors, but Alan Rickman had been a hottie for decades. Then the new movies have Colin Farrel, Johnny Depp, Mads Mikkelson when Depp got too toxic, and Jude loving Law.

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Yeah, just call it "Diaries of Dumbledore" or whatever

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Barudak posted:

NEWT SCAMANDER is a stuffy british conservationist wizard sent to assignment to AMERICA to help retrieve a UNICORN. While there he meets LOCAL AMERICAN SIDEKICK (Im gonna call him LIBERTY UNIDOS) who is WILD and PROVINCIAL. While working together they find out that the villain SLAVERY FOREVER, a former Confederate, has stolen the UNICORN and is planning to sell it to a higher bidder. After many tribulations they learn SLAVERY FOREVER has been supplying NEWT SCAMANDERS conservatory with illegally taken and poorly treated animals so they vow to stop him and return the UNICORN to its rightful home. During a KICKASS TRAIN SCENE, our heroes are split up. LIBERTY UNIDOS defeats his opponent a notorious mercenary HESSIAN PRIDE by doing a callback to being told to shut up a lot by casting a silent, no wand EXPELIRAMUS to knock him off the train so he can appear in THE SEQUEL. At the same time, NEWT SCAMANDER defeats SLAVERY FOREVER with the help of the UNICORN after which he decides to write his own zoological guide with the help of LIBERTY UNIDOS that he plans to call FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM.

Sir, this is a Wendy's drive through.

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Runcible Cat posted:


You'd think wizard child protective services would be an essential and well-funded part of wizard government just to avoid poo poo like this, but apparently all the funding goes to Aurors.

You've changed my mind, these movies are apparently amazingly accurate depictions of what an actual wizard society would be like.

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Gotta admit it's definitely the funniest option to end up 'China made them cut the gay bits out of the movie, all six seconds of them!'

First mainstream gay movie romance ever (what the gently caress you looking at Oscar award wining movie Brokeback Mountain?)

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Mx. posted:

how dare you say hitler was evil, all we can say is he was complicated

Say what you will about Hitler, but he is the only person who killed Hitler.

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nashona posted:


he's gotta be kicked from any other sequels yeah?


Ezra Miller arrested again on Hawaii Island

no deets as to why yet

Ahahahahahaha.

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https://twitter.com/HardDriveMag/status/1516431597045694473?s=20&t=oddO9ua2bT81KKYPw3ClHg

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That just means they're a Johnny Depp fan (read into that whatever you want) not necessarily a Fantastic Beasts fan.

I haven't seen any of the Fantastic Beasts movies, but I gotta say even if there weren't very credible accusations of domestic violence against Johnny Depp, Mads Mikkelsen has to be an upgrade, especially as a gay nazi wizard.

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BigglesSWE posted:

Yeah Mads carries around a stupendous amount of sexy energy and Hannibal showed that he can employ that very well for people who wants to see gay characters who aren’t explicitly gay, I.e. JK Rowling.

I think Hannibal awakened a lot of things in a lot of people that they might not be comfortable with.

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Doctor Spaceman posted:

Honestly Colin Farrell did a good job too.

Colin Farrell is a seriously under rated actor

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Rotten Red Rod posted:

Yeah, Johnny Depp used to be one of my favorite actors but his schtick hasn't been appealing since maybe the 3rd Pirates movie. He really only has one mode and it's just not appealing anymore. I'll literally write off movies that have Johnny Depp in them entirely based on his presence.

Mads Mikkelsen steals the show in anything he's in, by contrast.

Yeah up until around Pirates 2 Depp in a film was a reason to watch it, then it quickly turned into a reason not to.

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Feldegast42 posted:

Did you guys ever think that the true Fantastic Beast




































Was man

As a man, I wouldn't call us Fantastic.

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Boba Pearl posted:

But where can I find such a lad.

At a cinema near you.

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BigglesSWE posted:

The dumbest thing about Quidditch is that the game only ends once the snitch is caught. Which is a fun little detail in a children’s adventure book but when brought into a big serious pondering world it falls apart completely.

Are you thinking about how theoretically no one could catch the snitch and the game could last forever? Because that could also theoretically happen in baseball if it remains a tie.

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BigglesSWE posted:

Sounds like baseball is pretty stupid then. I wouldn’t know, I’ve only been to one game back in 2002 and I had no idea what was happening.

People have been playing baseball for like 150 years and there's never been a game that just went on forever, so it's a small worry.

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Pretty sure it's literally based on cricket, not baseball.

I'm sure it is, I'm just saying a potentially infinite game is a thing that can happen in real life sports too. I don't know enough about cricket to know what happens in the event of an endless tie.

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Yeah, but Michael Jordan was the main character when he played for the Bulls and can you loving imagine him giving up because the other team seemed to have an insurmountable lead?

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Liquid Communism posted:

The twins were selling them out of their shop later on too, now that I do a bit of googling. Which is again, some side-eye at Rowling, having your good guys casually selling essentially magical roofies.

Half Blood Prince, Chapter 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoA63WunEJ0

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I don't have kids , and if I did and they wanted to read Harry Potter I'd probably let them because otherwise it's forbidden fruit and they'll want to read it even more and it would probably be in their school library, but I'd definitely try and get them to read some other stuff at least in addition to Harry Potter.

Do 12 year olds in 2022 give a poo poo about Harry Potter though? I feel like there should be new YA novels they're obsessed over. Like modern 12 year olds know about Harry Potter for the same reason I know about The Beatles, my/their parents were obsessed with it, right?

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Mx. posted:

One of my nieces loves Harry Potter

I buy her other books for gifts

I'd recommend the Patricia Wrede dragons books.
This is the first https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dealing_with_Dragons

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I read "weight of the boy" as in it works like anesthesia and you need more for larger people, but I probably shouldn't give Rowling the benefit of the doubt.

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