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josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Dr. VooDoo posted:

The wizard governments and societies of Harry Potter are horribly dystopian. A small, select group of people with powers that could solve the world’s problems at large with a flick of their wrists chooses to hoard this power for themselves. They also decide what the people not in their elite group can and cannot know and will alter memories without consent to uphold this, up to and including the cause and nature of deaths of loved ones, treating them as little better than animals even creating a separate name name and category for them as if somehow they are less human than they are. Yet somehow these governments and societies are surprised when groups of their fellow elites take things to their logical end and create magic supremacy ideologies. Even at the end of the Harry Potter series the heroes have done nothing to stop this practice which only insures another Voldemort-like figure will rise in the future

wizards are basically the party from 1984. "idiot proles!" i think, as i walk into my cubicle job where mastery of time itself is used to make sure that racism still happens.

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Oct 19, 2008


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the first half of fantastic beasts, where the american wizard society are just a bunch of pre-ww2 fascist shitheads, is excellent.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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chamber of secrets is alarmingly cheap-looking. every scene takes place in the same corridor.

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JethroMcB posted:

Is it really surprising that WB didn't spend a ton on Harry Potter and the One That Nobody Likes or Really Cares About, Despite a Book 7 Retcon to Try and Give It Some Narrative Weight

they really needed Columbus to crank out that second one fast and cheap, both to have something ready by thanksgiving '02 and to take advantage of the fact that the core cast hadn't entered the hairpin turn of puberty yet.

that's the thing, they spent $100 million on it and it looks like rear end. the flashback sequence lets you know we're in the past by being in black and white.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Dr. VooDoo posted:

Welcome to my magic school! We have spells and flying brooms! Also in one of our bathrooms the tortured, crying sprit of a murdered child is forced for eternity to exist inside of a toilet

Par for the course at a British boarding school, tbh.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Mooey Cow posted:

Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell is a good book and shockingly it has a good miniseries adaptation too.

This is very true.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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reignofevil posted:

On one hand I dunno if we should be writing our own fanfiction here but on the other hand if not we, then who? I won't shutter a goon's hopes and dreams of someday accomplishing for harry potter what this great forum once accomplished for game of thrones.

Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Bones

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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By the time Azkaban was being made the books were a cultural phenomenon, cutting the gordian knot of "how do you adapt a ten-hour+ book into a two-hour film" with "gently caress it, everyone's read the books anyway" was extremely astute. Why make the films for a world where people are going to be shocked that Harry's dad made the Marauder's Map when that world no longer exists?

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Series is very good but there's a few books where bad-parent-of-the-week is floundering and Snicket's struggling to find a new format that works, where Rowling's decision to go full-George RR Martin for book four, though people moan about it, kicked the whole thing into high gear.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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House Protagonist, House Antagonist, House Smart and House Nice.

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Oct 19, 2008


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Dawgstar posted:

And generally speaking your Housemates will probably bring you up to speed pretty quick. Like if you get into Ravenclaw but weren't exactly an AP student, you're still in the House that has to answer a pop quiz anytime you want to go to the dorms so it's like a never-ending study session so you'll probably find magic GPA going up even if it's just by osmosis.

Ah, the private school system in action.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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House Hufflepuff: You're almost the help.

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Oct 19, 2008


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RBA Starblade posted:

I always wondered why the american exchange student wizard didn't solve the wizard hitler problem by going and getting a gun

Fantastic Beasts solves this riddle: every American wizard is a fascist.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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JK Rowling's goblin bankers took on such a life in part because she spent five years yelling anyone who would listen that the way Jeremy Corbyn pronounced "Epstein" was yet another clear as day sign of the antisemitic mind.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Voldemort narrowed his snake-like eyes as he gazed into the night sky. He had anticipated that Dumbledore might warn the muggles, but not the force with which they would respond. Bellatrix had been incinerated in a hot flash, before the first syllable of repello inimicum could pass her lips. But a team of Death Eaters could very effectively scry the heavens, and this time he was forewarned. "Bring him." he hissed, and two hooded wizards dragged a young man before him in chains. Neville Longbottom had wasted away in captivity, but his blond hair was still recognisable. Voldemort glanced upwards, and will an almost imperceptible motion of his wand disabled the thermonuclear device hurtling towards them. Now he just had to wait.

Back at missle command Harry finally took his hand off the key, where it had been resting for the last twenty minutes. He looked across the control panel at Ron, whose eyes were fixated on the camera feed from a high-altitude drone. "Harry..." Ron mumbled, "I think that handful of pixels is Neville." In a panic, Harry took his wand and babbled the torturous Latin words of the anti-fission spell, fruitlessly disarming the already defunct missle. Horrified by the near miss, he collapsed back into the high-backed chair.

The Dark Lord, however, was not relying on nuclear fission. Leaning in close to Neville, he seized the young man's wand and pointed it skywards. "accio inter-continental ballistic missile" he whispered, before disapparating, dropping Neville's wand in the dirt. Neville, weak from hunger, scrambled for the wand.

josh04 fucked around with this message at 14:40 on May 21, 2020

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Have made appropriate revisions, lmk if this helps.

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Oct 19, 2008


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MonsieurChoc posted:

Dumbledore is a shittier George Smiley. He's a spook through and through.

Hah, this really fits. Genial, warm, full of wisdom, terribly sorry that he's sent you unknowingly to your death again.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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reignofevil posted:

You could just make wizard politicians make an unbreakable vow to do their jobs right.

Assume they're the wizard version of etherium contracts, unbreakable, unchangeable and largely useless for anything legal.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Snape is literally just a grown man in a position of authority being openly pissed at a pre-teen because he didn't get to gently caress his mom.

There's a whole bit where Snape is the only one who can teach Harry about psychic defenses and doesn't really work because he hates Harry so much, and when Snape switches jobs and a better Potions teacher comes out of retirement Harry suddenly does a whole lot better at it. Snape is a lovely teacher.

An emotionally stunted man inappropriately furious at children in his care is very representative of the British private school system. The only thing missing is a scene where Snape rearranges the classroom so the students he wants to leer at are all sat at the front.

MonsieurChoc posted:

It really clicked for me when I finally got around to reading Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy.

Great book and movie btw. I should get around to watching the series one of these days.

I watched the series a year or so back, it's really good. The film is dripping with style but the series really gets the mucky, crappy seventies feel to everything.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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"Get back in the loving toilet, no we don't have any idea how you died and frankly we don't care."

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Daikloktos posted:

Xenophillius is able to generally get away with wearing what Krum associates as Grindlewald's mark to the point of wanting to belt him straight away for wearing it. Made it seem like Britain wasn't too directly involved with him.

It's a swastika joke. Krum sees Xenophilius wearing a swastika at the wedding and goes "what the gently caress" and Xenophilius is all "it's an ancient Buddhist love symbol, honest!"

e: naturally the other Brits just assume he's a big racist and don't care.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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SlothfulCobra posted:

Hogwarts is also kinda depicted stupidly huge in the movies for only having a few hundred students, with a layout that doesn't really seem to reflect how the story is written, with a bunch of disconnected building. The marauder's map must be a pain to use on buildings over 10 stories tall.

Like there's room for a whole wizarding university to be there without the children ever meeting the grad students.

Hogwarts is maybe a touch more grandiose, but:

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Alan Rickman's real good, but we're listening to the book three audiobook and Snape should have been fired for the scene where he covers one of Lupin's classes and spends the whole thing insulting, screaming at and threatening the children because they're loving up his terrible plan to out Lupin as a werewolf. What a loving wanker.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Flippendo! Flippendo! Flippendo!

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JethroMcB posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntz0gcLSYrw&t=539s

like Gears of War if the Locust fired their rifles by spinning them above their heads in lazy arcs

Harry Potter and the uncomfortably broad shoulders.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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POTTERGAME is a++++++

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Oct 19, 2008


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I like the part where someone paints the wizard swastika in the sky and the ministry men immediately assume it was a house elf. Wizards are idiots.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Zore posted:

I mean, Barty Crouch immediately accuses Winky because she's supposed to be controlling his invisible Death Eater son who he suspects is the person who actually did it iirc. And he is desperately trying to get people to not look into the fact that he's been housing a wanted criminal for 15 years.

Other people immediately buy it because they don't want to admit that Death Eaters still exist so they throw their slave scapegoat under the bus. Its incredibly realistic.

Crouch is against the idea - he gets pissed at the suggestion that even one of his servants might have conjured the dark mark. Amos Diggory is the one all-in on the elf having done it.

Related:

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Oct 19, 2008


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looks like those clowns at the ministry have done it again! ghost nazis patrol school now. dumbledore chuckled, "I tried to persuade Cornelius, but he was quite insistent!"

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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The camping allowed the film to get really weird with it so I'm in favour of the camping.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Not sure what's the deal with Harry falling for the old woman made of snakes gambit.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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That's British schooling, up till you're 16 is compulsory then 17-18 is optional. They changed it since the books come out so that you have to stay in some sort of education till you're 18 but it's woolly as gently caress.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Kinda funny to imagine that Hermione is getting super into numerology in the background of the series

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Zore posted:

Flying (which seems to just be a one and done first year course? Just teaching a bunch of 11 year olds to fly on a broom once. Its literally never mentioned again after the Remembrall scene in book 1)

This happens not uncommonly with swimming in the UK, one or two years of lessons.

PeterWeller posted:

This just makes me more certain that it's a bit. Divination but with math is probabilities. They're just learning Stats.

You might say they're learning... the methods of rationality.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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It's a "weed is a gateway drug" type deal. Zero tolerance policy on supercurses.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Speleothing posted:

I really doubt that Rowling wanted to make fun of British Middle-Class Fears. She has, after all, graduated into the sort of upper class Brit who is terrified of trans people. Being completely serious about The Killing Curse but also fairly blasé about philosophically worse things is totally on-brand for her.

Nah, Rowling is very contemptuous or middle England mores, desire having evolved into a recording billionaire making GBS threads on minorites over twitter. See: everything about the Dursleys.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Eton's Houses are (cf wikipedia), College, Godolphin, Jourdelay's, Hawtrey, Durnford, The Hopgarden, South Lawn, Waynflete, Evans's, Keate, Warre, Villiers, Common Lane, Penn, Walpole, Cotton Hall, Wotton, Holland, Mustians, Angelo's, Manor, Farrer, Baldwin's Bec, The Timbralls, and Westbury. There are 25 of them and I'm sure each has it's own uniquely boring history.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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It's a background detail in the book's Knight Bus sequence that they made more promenent because as written, the scene is a featureless info dump where two men and a child discuss a newspaper.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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Like many legitimate organisations, Hogwarts promotes itself entirely through unsolicited mailouts to children.

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Oct 19, 2008


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Check out young Alan Rickman from this episode of Smiley's People I just watched:

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