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Professorjuggalo posted:Spoilers are appearing for next chapter If you say so. There's nothing at Mangahelpers, which is where I usually look for spoilers.
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How would there be spoilers when the chapter is still a week away?
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Jun 28, 2020 01:17
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I mean, Gan Fall was a decent sort as gods went.
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Jun 28, 2020 01:42
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TheLoneStar posted:How would there be spoilers when the chapter is still a week away? The spoilers have been coming out Sunday-Monday recently, and this edition of SJ came out a couple of days early, so it's possible that the process where raws reach peoples hands speeded up.
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Jun 28, 2020 01:47
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Darth Walrus posted:I mean, Gan Fall was a decent sort as gods went. That's because "god" was the traditional title of Skypeia's ruler; he didn't actually consider himself a god. I wonder if we'll ever find out why the title exists. My pet theory, which I think I've mentioned in this thread before, is that Poseidon, Pluton, and Uranus were the original assholes with god complexes; the original Uranus was a winged-person inventor-king who named his superweapon after himself, and his sky-based kingdom fought a multi-sided war against Poseidon's sea-based kingdom, the human Pluton's land-based kingdom, and the original D's anti-tyrannical-god movement. Though I'm actually starting to think that this theory doesn't actually quite fit; what we've seen of the Poneglyphs implies that Shandora, Fishman Island, Wano, and Laugh Tale were all on the same side (against the founders of the World Government?). And the dramatic scene with the Oharan scholar being killed just before saying the name of a particular kingdom implies that the aspects of the Void Century's history the World Government really hates revolve around one kingdom, not a bunch of different factions. Then again, the existence of a Poneglyph on Arabasta complicates things, since it was already ruled by the Nefertiti family at the time the World Government was founded (and they were apparently more attached to the country they ruled than the other WG founders, so they probably hadn't just conquered it yesterday). And Doflamingo's remark about the Ds opposing "whatever is considered God in every era" implies that the Ds originally opposed something distinct from the World Nobles. And it feels strange that the Ds would be on the same side as one world-spanning empire, and only opposed to the current world-spanning empire; I feel like the Will of D ought to involve an abstract principle of freedom or something like that, and not just opposition to Imu specifically.
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Jun 28, 2020 04:03
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It's possible that the World Government is actually a third faction that came to power by swooping in after the two main factions beat each other down in the conflict of the Void Century. It could even be a faction that was made up of portions of the other two factions, perhaps even being the "good" guys at the time who were against destroying everything by continuing the war. Then over time they became corrupted by power and became the worthless sons of bitches that they are now. Im possibly being the last survivor of the original ancient kingdom who waited to swoop in and seize power later. The government then becoming just as tyrannical as before, but now using the lessons of past events to ruthlessly cut down possible opposition before it can form. Which is why Im chooses people to kill like Shirahoshi, Vivi, Blackbeard or Luffy. People highly likely to effectively oppose the World Government's machinations. The fact that those four were the focus of his little meeting while being tied to both the Superweapons and the Will of D shows that Im does have some sort of knowledge of ancient history, or at least some sensitivity to those tied to it.
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Jun 28, 2020 04:24
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Considering the Nefertari family are one of the 20 original founding kingdoms but chose to stay behind I’d say yeah the Celestial Dragons likely ended up this way from centuries of inbreeding and building belief in their own absolute superiority and power. They probably weren’t all great people, but they definitely weren’t the modern monsters they’ve become. I imagine that if they’d stayed like the Nefertari they might have ended up just as invested and caring about their people, of course I can also imagine them becoming tyrants too.
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Jun 28, 2020 04:41
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Lord_Magmar posted:Considering the Nefertari family are one of the 20 original founding kingdoms but chose to stay behind I’d say yeah the Celestial Dragons likely ended up this way from centuries of inbreeding and building belief in their own absolute superiority and power. That's my assumption too, although it's worth considering the possibility that the Nefertari were originally bad guys, or at least that their reasons for remaining in Arabasta weren't entirely benevolent. I vaguely remember Robin saying that there was something or other that Cobra honestly didn't know, but that one of his ancestors had probably deliberately concealed. But I can't remember the details, and it's possible that the Nefertari were just trying to prevent the revival of Pluton or something like that.
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Jun 28, 2020 06:14
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It wouldn't surprise me if Pluton is actually in Alabasta and either Vivi's dad knows about it or the exact knowledge just failed to be passed on over time. Remember that he talked to Robin about how the poneglyph in the royal tomb totally was about Pluton and he know she was just spinning poo poo to Crocodile. There's definitely more of a reason that they're the only founding nobles to not gently caress off to the land of sniffing their own farts than simply they're actually cool rulers.
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Jun 28, 2020 06:49
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Spoilers are out now by the way. - Yamato is a woman - Yamato explains that she witnessed the hour of legend on the day of Oden execution and she became Oden's fan. - Then she went to Kuri and she managed to find Oden's journal. No one knows about this journal, not even her father. - Oden journal became her "Bible". - She said that there is some very important things written in the journal, and that someone has to inherit Oden's will. - She chose to live as a man to follow Oden, but she's actually Kaido's daughter. - Yamato: "Please let me fight along with you. You're really strong. You remind me of Ace!" - Next week is break
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Jul 2, 2020 08:34
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RatHat posted:Spoilers are out now by the way.
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Jul 2, 2020 12:01
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RealFoxy posted:Kaido's child is actually trans? That's neat I think the entire world has been surprisingly chill about the trans characters that have shown up. It's like, Sanji and that one guy who tried to kill Ivankov in Impel Down, who had an issue. Too bad they're all pretty lovely about gay guys.
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Jul 2, 2020 12:57
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lmao Robin looks so much into her disguise, really enjoying herself
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Jul 2, 2020 13:23
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God Ussop help you if you misgender Kaido's son
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Jul 2, 2020 13:38
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Aw boo, gotta wait another week till I get to read those spoiler tags 
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Gyges posted:I think the entire world has been surprisingly chill about the trans characters that have shown up. It's like, Sanji and that one guy who tried to kill Ivankov in Impel Down, who had an issue. There's a hint of a theme of the freedom of piracy and the anti government revolutionaries and the rejection of assigned gender and embracing your true self in the face of oppression with Ivankov's Newkama in Impel Down, but Oda doesn't really explore it much.
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Jul 2, 2020 17:14
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i made up my spoilers in my head to give all you spoiler people the same enjoyment i get when i read a new chapter
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Jul 3, 2020 00:13
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https://readjump.com/mangas/one-piece/984
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Jul 3, 2020 06:28
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How come no one in the spoilers mentioned the best part of the chapter before? Nekomamushi has a gun hand now
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Jul 3, 2020 06:35
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 Just inject this straight in my veins.
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Jul 3, 2020 06:36
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Good chapter
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Jul 3, 2020 06:39
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I loving died at Jimbei and Robin
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Jul 3, 2020 06:45
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junan_paalla posted:Good chapter
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Jul 3, 2020 06:52
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Yamato: Dad I wanna be treated as a man... Kaido: Okay Yamato:.. also be called Oden! Kaido: "beats the poo poo out you" Dunno if Kaido is a good father or not
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Jul 3, 2020 08:09
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IceBorg posted:Yamato: Dad I wanna be treated as a man... Even a villain as dastardly as Kaido says TRANS RIGHTS. Rohan Kishibe posted:There's a hint of a theme of the freedom of piracy and the anti government revolutionaries and the rejection of assigned gender and embracing your true self in the face of oppression with Ivankov's Newkama in Impel Down, but Oda doesn't really explore it much. They were just talking about this on the latest One Piece Podcast. Really interesting timing. Ever Disappointing fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Jul 3, 2020 |
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Jul 3, 2020 08:50
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I bet that journal contains the location of the missing Road Poneglyph
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Jul 3, 2020 11:49
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I feel like I completely misjudged the size of Jack before now, also highly excited to see Nekomamushi become leader of AVALANCHE.
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Jul 3, 2020 13:01
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Caidin posted:I feel like I completely misjudged the size of Jack before now, also highly excited to see Nekomamushi become leader of AVALANCHE. Kaido's dyin', Cloud!
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Jul 3, 2020 13:52
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Queen is just so damned pumped all the time and its great.
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Jul 3, 2020 15:26
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AtomikKrab posted:Queen is just so damned pumped all the time and its great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0riMEBnLVpM
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Jul 3, 2020 15:40
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Bets on wether Yamato joins up? Character design is just similar enough to Robin and Nami that seems possible, history repeating itself and what not.
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Jul 3, 2020 15:42
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The World Inferno posted:Bets on wether Yamato joins up? Character design is just similar enough to Robin and Nami that seems possible, history repeating itself and what not. I think he's definitely coming along, but as part of the inevitable "samurai pirates" crew in the Strawhat Armada, not as a main crew member. Begemot fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jul 3, 2020 |
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Jul 3, 2020 15:46
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Don't forget to use spoiler tags until the chapter's out officially!  Begemot posted:I think he's definitely coming along, but as part of the inevitable "samurai pirates" crew in the Strawhat Armada, not as a main crew member. Oh, good point! I was trying to work out how Yamato would likely fit into things after the end of this arc but I can definitely see them stepping aside after discovering Momo & the Scabbards are alive, and instead embracing Oden's legacy as a samurai pirate.
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I wonder if Kaidou intended to marry Yamato off to one of BM's children as part of the alliance. Or maybe he already said so and my dumb rear end forgot it.
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He did say that he had an announcement regarding Yamato, but he didn't say what. Marrying him off seems likely though.
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Jul 3, 2020 16:25
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Interesting Yamato talks about inherited will. The log book must have info on poo poo Oden saw on Raftel. Cat Machine posted:hell yeah he is Been waiting for Queen's intro animated all quarantine. Sub Harrison fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Jul 3, 2020 |
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Jul 3, 2020 17:15
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Sub Harrison posted:Interesting Yamato talks about inherited will. The log book must have info on poo poo Oden saw on Raftel. As soon as the log book came out I began worrying about Luffy destroying it in some fashion because it has info on One Piece. I do love that out of everyone taking part in the raid it's pretty much just Robin, Jinbe, and the old Yakuza guy(mooks don't count) who actually stuck with the infiltration plan. I kind of hope everyone else is too busy not following the plan so they get to run wild saving Momo. Please let Robin fight. Orochi really deserves a visit from the Hana Hana Chiropractor.
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Jul 3, 2020 20:28
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Gyges posted:As soon as the log book came out I began worrying about Luffy destroying it in some fashion because it has info on One Piece. The samurai fail hard at killing Orochi, then Robin snaps all his necks at once for the win.
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Jul 3, 2020 21:46
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Robin ties all of Orochi's necks together in a big knot
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Kiku and Izo's reunion was a cool little moment. Nice that Marco thought ahead like that.
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