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twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pDTiFkXgEE







Welcome to the C-SPAM gardening thread! With the imminent collapse of society looming ever closer, it's useful to know how to grow your own crops. Although normally this would require you to own land, recent advances in grow lamp technology allow anyone to grow crops without ever having to leave their homes. Which is good, because you probably won't be allowed outside for a while anyway. Post your crops and discuss your soil conditions here.

also post here about raising chickens or whatever

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twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
Now is the perfect time to plant a bunch of different things. I don't have any real land but I have a small balcony and I planted some radishes last week



I think they're not too crowded, according to what it said on the package of seeds but I guess we'll find out

Smug Mug
Jul 21, 2011

built our raised beds a few weeks ago. put up some chicken wire to keep the pups out.

planted tomatoes, pumpkins, turnip, beans, carrots strawberry. can’t wait to see them when they get a bit taller.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
Planted some potatoes, garlic & onions already. Looks like this is a good weekend to plant some corn, better follow the president's advice and start putting in some corn. Knew a guy who planted it on the shitstrip, might follow his lead.

sinnesloeschen
Jun 4, 2011

fiiiiiiinnnne
:coolspot:
we got us some cucumbers and maters comin up but the tomatoes are new to me and seem a lil shy

waiting patiently for the hot fuckin peppers to blow up and never stop, got some thai birdseye chilis im hype af for

idk poo poo about growing anything but grew up subsistence farming and hunting so maybe the skills i learned rly poorly thirty five years ago will return

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 10 days!)

my TATERS are getting up there. It's supposed to freeze this week (loving midwest) so I'm holding off on planting anything else. Hopin to get my tomatoes and peppers in the ground soon ish.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

sullat posted:

better follow the president's advice and start putting in some corn.

Trump gave potentially beneficial advice? Wow, maybe that's why the youtube algorithm keeps recommending three sisters mound gardening videos.

Tomatoes are in and doing well. Even the miserable near death romas the wife rescued from walmart seem to be standing up o.k. and growing new leaves.

Nothing from seed has taken yet. If I'm still here next winter I'm doing everything by seedling indoors or building a little greenhouse.

I have also discovered that the cultivator is probably my favorite gardening tool, narrowly surpassing even the shovel.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

sinnesloeschen posted:

we got us some cucumbers and maters comin up but the tomatoes are new to me and seem a lil shy

waiting patiently for the hot fuckin peppers to blow up and never stop, got some thai birdseye chilis im hype af for

idk poo poo about growing anything but grew up subsistence farming and hunting so maybe the skills i learned rly poorly thirty five years ago will return

can I just plant pepper seeds in the dirt? a friend of mine grows carolina reapers and he says they need to germinate for a few weeks, but I think that he's lying

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

twoday posted:

Now is the perfect time to plant a bunch of different things. I don't have any real land but I have a small balcony and I planted some radishes last week



I think they're not too crowded, according to what it said on the package of seeds but I guess we'll find out

So the company that owns the building did a major overhaul to improve energy efficiency a few years ago, putting in double-paned windows and installing central heating and such. They also coated the balconies in these heat-preserving tiles. Apparently in the winter the balconies would get cold and this cold would radiate through the cement into the building, so they stopped this by installing these tiles on top of the balcony, and some other insulation on the underside. This works great in the winter, I guess, but the side effect is that it stays insanely hot there in the summer, and I can not go out and sit there without shoes. This is also the south side, so it gets the sun. As a result, I have a weird little microclimate in my apartment that is good for growing semi-tropical plants and bad for plants that can't take a lot of consistent heat. I had a wintergreen plant out there that died because it was too hot I think, and my Swedish elderberry plant seems unhappy too. Anyone have any tips for edible plants that like it hot?

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

twoday posted:

can I just plant pepper seeds in the dirt? a friend of mine grows carolina reapers and he says they need to germinate for a few weeks, but I think that he's lying

Bell pepper seeds are probably one of the most common compost pile volunteers so, in principle, sure. There's an r/K selection thing going on, dump a bunch of seeds and let a million flowers bloom, or live birth your seedlings and nurse them. Having stuff already growing and ready to be put in the ground after the last frost puts you a few weeks ahead of the game, so if you can start stuff beforehand, you really should.

sinnesloeschen
Jun 4, 2011

fiiiiiiinnnne
:coolspot:

twoday posted:

can I just plant pepper seeds in the dirt? a friend of mine grows carolina reapers and he says they need to germinate for a few weeks, but I think that he's lying

nah man u gotta baby them

talk to em, hang out w/them in the sunny spot of the house

Zisky
May 6, 2003

PM me and I will show you my tits
Is this the place I go ask for advice once I gently caress up the aerogarden I just bought so I have fresh herbs during the plague?

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Found out earlier that a couple of the chickens had spent all day scratching a hole under the wire keeping them out of the raised beds and then turfed up a bunch of the fresh plantings. Never underestimate the persistence of a chicken who's seen a way to ruin your work

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.
just gonna grow weed and trade it for food man.

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.
I think i've always been too stupid to do anything beyond taking care of more than 2 or 3 plants, but now that I finally have some money to spare I might go out and buy some pots and some pepper seeds and make myself some super hot hot sauce. any recommendations on easy to grow peppers that do well in pots?

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
I've never gardened before and don't know where to buy seeds, what kind of seeds to buy, or what indoor set up I should buy. Please help a goon out

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 10 days!)

I live in THE HEARTLAND :911: so every town around here has a small greenhouse that sells flowers and garden plants in the spring. IDK about city goons. Depending on where you are the greenhouses may not have stuff in yet, my local said she's gonna have peppers in a couple weeks ready to sell.
I will say not to buy from Walmart/Home Depot/whatever the euro versions of those are, however.


excuse the blurry rear end picture but the potatoes I planted are getting big!

edit: like I legit just bought 4 marigolds (flowers) for 4 bucks the other day and they are getting ready to bloom. my peppers that I'm starting from seed haven't gone yet but I think they take a few weeks.

Peanut President has issued a correction as of 20:31 on Apr 13, 2020

BeefThief
Aug 8, 2007

Is...is that weed?



No that's peppers, tomatoes, herbs and asparagus that will go into the garden in about a month. Well past time to thin so excuse the clutter!

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Excited about this thread op

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
My soil is trash for growing most things but fine on carrots and potatoes so im going with that.

Abongination
Aug 18, 2010

Life, it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come.
Pillbug
Got all my planting done, a year and a half ago this back area was just baked hard red clay.



after covering with a few tonnes of straw and lots of animal turds it’s starting to look real nice under there. Lots of worms and insect life.

Planted:

Spinach
Silverbeet
Carrots
Cauliflower
Broccoli
Dwarf Peas
Sugarsnap peas
Potatoes
Garlic
Celery

also lots of beneficial insect attracting flowers, will hopefully get a hive going this year.

Pottering around in my little garden makes me happy.

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.


cannabis.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
The soil around here is pretty dogshit so last year I built a bunch of raised beds out of cinderblocks, filled them with woodchip and a bunch of horse manure and now it's the best planting soil you can get. If you know a place to steal cinderblocks you can set up some real nice growing beds for free just like that

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Mummy Xzibit posted:

Is this the place I go ask for advice once I gently caress up the aerogarden I just bought so I have fresh herbs during the plague?

you’re supposed to plant plants in the ground, not the sky

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Dreddout posted:

I've never gardened before and don't know where to buy seeds, what kind of seeds to buy, or what indoor set up I should buy. Please help a goon out

what do you want to grow?

Frumply
Dec 7, 2004








Minrad posted:

I think i've always been too stupid to do anything beyond taking care of more than 2 or 3 plants, but now that I finally have some money to spare I might go out and buy some pots and some pepper seeds and make myself some super hot hot sauce. any recommendations on easy to grow peppers that do well in pots?

peppers can be difficult to start from seed so I’ve always just bought plants from a nursery to do this. All peppers will do well in pots so you should just plant whatever you can find.

when it comes time to ferment a 3% brine will get the job done. i just chop them up and throw them into a glass quart jar and put a paper coffee filter over the top and hold it in place with a rubber band. the only other thing to consider is whether or not you want to buy xanthan gum to make the sauce smooth or not.

Frumply
Dec 7, 2004








this guy has a pretty good channel for peppers but also gardening in general. i have a mishmash of pots i always use but if you don't have any this will show you how to make a self watering system on the cheap out of any container really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWkg5ttOm5I

i should also mention that even if you don't like spicy foods and would never grow peppers to eat it's still a very useful crop as you can make a natural insect repellent with any sufficiently hot pepper.

Zeno-25
Dec 5, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Turtle Sandbox posted:

My soil is trash for growing most things but fine on carrots and potatoes so im going with that.

In my area outside of Denver calling it "soil" is being generous, we just have a couple feet of fine sand over clay. I'm used to gardening in northern IL where there is two feet of black earth, so when I started a garden in Colorado I had to do a lot of work to make the soil useable for anything.

Basically I dug a big hole wherever I wanted to create a bed. This is the 10'x2' tomato bed, dug down to the clay, and then filled with top soil, peat moss, and composted manure. Also lots of organic fertilizers like Dr Earth mix, kelp meal, gypsum, langbeinite, etc. It worked really well.




I also put in similar beds/mounds for my cucumbers and watermelons, which also worked well.


I usually prefer obscure heirloom varieties so I start my seeds indoors with a heat mat under a dome in late March through early April so things are ready at the right time for my USDA plant hardiness zone 5b. Depending on your zone it is probably too late to start peppers, eggplant, okra, etc.


All the good online seed banks (Johnny's Selected Seeds, Seed Savers Exchange, Seeds from Italy, Southern Exposure, Territorial Seed Co.) are pretty much wiped out of stock at this point, so your best bet for getting seeds is from a big box store in the garden section. Local garden centers are most likely still selling their own vegetable "starts" which are plants that have already been started and will be ready to plant around your last average frost date. Call around. The big box stores usually alsohave starts to sell, but the varieties will be limited to the old standards and hybrids.

Any variety you see with (F1) is a hybrid and the seeds will be useless to save for next year. For that, you want heirloom or open-pollinated varieties.

If you live in a dry sunny place like Denver, disease and pests are not a huge problem. If you live in a moist, humid climate like the south or Midwest, make sure to look for "disease resistant" varieties.

I also know a lot about growing weed, mostly hydroponically tho, but I'd be glad to help with that too

Zeno-25 has issued a correction as of 15:56 on Apr 14, 2020

Zeno-25
Dec 5, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

twoday posted:

can I just plant pepper seeds in the dirt? a friend of mine grows carolina reapers and he says they need to germinate for a few weeks, but I think that he's lying

You'll have waaaay better luck germinating peppers and eggplants if the seeds are kept at 80-90 degrees for 1-3 weeks. Some varieties take a lot longer to germinate than others, the hot ones are usually slow

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
I haven't gotten much done today other than put my trays of seedlings out into some sun but I harvested my first crop of windowsill pea shoots and wanted to post in the veg thread cause they tasted really good.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

twoday posted:

what do you want to grow?

beans & weed preferably indoors. i have a closet with about 3 cubic ft of free space

Zeno-25
Dec 5, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dreddout posted:

beans & weed preferably indoors. i have a closet with about 3 cubic ft of free space

Bush French beans I'm guessing? Wouldn't recommend pole beans for inside. You'll need a good 4+ bulb T5 fluorescent fixture to get good results, and for good weed you'll also need a high pressure sodium fixture for the flowering phase. If you have a hps light you could also grow very nice tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, etc, stuff with very high light demand basically.

You could do great things with one of these, even the two foot models are very nice
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002TJKS8Y/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_eQHLEbV53XJWY

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.

Zeno-25 posted:

Bush French beans I'm guessing? Wouldn't recommend pole beans for inside. You'll need a good 4+ bulb T5 fluorescent fixture to get good results, and for good weed you'll also need a high pressure sodium fixture for the flowering phase. If you have a hps light you could also grow very nice tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, etc, stuff with very high light demand basically.

You could do great things with one of these, even the two foot models are very nice
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002TJKS8Y/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_eQHLEbV53XJWY

have to think an HPS setup is going to be real hot in that tiny closet. might want to look into LED solutions for that amount of space but i dont have any experience with them personally.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author


I grew a bodhi tree and a djererok preroet ("kaffir lime") tree last summer from seedlings. But they are pretty tropical so I took them inside for the winter, and I had to hang them high to keep the cats from eating them, and there isn't much light up there so I bought this little grow lamp for them. It's pretty drat strong, they've been growing like monsters. I'll take them back outside when the night temperatures are warm enough

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Zeno-25 posted:

Bush French beans I'm guessing? Wouldn't recommend pole beans for inside. You'll need a good 4+ bulb T5 fluorescent fixture to get good results, and for good weed you'll also need a high pressure sodium fixture for the flowering phase. If you have a hps light you could also grow very nice tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, etc, stuff with very high light demand basically.

You could do great things with one of these, even the two foot models are very nice
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002TJKS8Y/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_eQHLEbV53XJWY

Yeah I'm definitely sticking to bush beans.

Anyone have experience with hydroponics? I'm interested in learning more but it's hard to know where to get started.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

Tomatoes



Corn is in. Dug up and replanted a section I was messing with last week, was pleased to see that even in my corrupted ground, the beans and the corn had sprouted.


Got millet, watermelon, pumpkins and self-heal starting in little pots. Put in a second patch of snap dragons, gonna plant some more lupines tomorrow and that should be it for the flowers.

Nasturtiums are coming up



Come what may, I'm already sitting on a bumper crop of rocks



e: hot tip, going out at night and shining a uv flashlight over your garden will reveal a lot of the scattered plastic in it.

The Voice of Labor has issued a correction as of 04:11 on Apr 15, 2020

Sylink
Apr 17, 2004

I'm fortunate enough to live on about 10 acres, and part of it I'm converting to a small market garden. I'm hoping to grow enough stuff to preserve through winter and maybe sell some this year. And if it goes well I can try to really ramp up production next year.

I've some bush beans already planted. This is northeast Ohio so its a risk of frost but they haven't come up yet. My carrots got washed out, so I'll have to replant. And I let my cabbage seedlings go too long so they are leggy but a few are surviving.

I also made a tiny hoophouse to help with seedlings in May, and I have ten of these trays - https://www.neversinktools.com/products/winstrip-trays , so I can really go nuts with tomatoes and peppers.

Here is the hillside field for single rows of whatever, two rows started of beans, the top there is where the carrots washed out. Its a great part to plant in despite the slope because it has excellent drainage.



On a flatter part I'm making new beds and turning the soil as I can, slow heavy work while its still so wet.

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

I'm in zone 10b and it's very hot so not many veggies right now aside from mostly a few arugula plants, garlic chives, and a lil pigeon pea plant that's doing it's best. I also have a tomato plant I bought on a whim at home depot and it's trying it's best too. We'll see how well it goes.
Like most people I just started this because of Corona so I'm pretty much just learning as I go. Best YouTube resources for me have been EpicGardening and SelfSufficientMe.

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



twoday posted:



I grew a bodhi tree and a djererok preroet ("kaffir lime") tree last summer from seedlings. But they are pretty tropical so I took them inside for the winter, and I had to hang them high to keep the cats from eating them, and there isn't much light up there so I bought this little grow lamp for them. It's pretty drat strong, they've been growing like monsters. I'll take them back outside when the night temperatures are warm enough

I thought these were hanging off your shower head.

Now I want a plant I can keep in the shower.

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Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000

got 3 pots each of snap peas, sugar peas and green beans, basil just sprouted but none of my tomatoes or peppers have yet

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