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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

excited to see if this snowstorm kills my radishes

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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Atrocious Joe posted:

excited to see if this snowstorm kills my radishes

Radish update: still alive

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

What size buckets are you thinking of. You can plant a tomato in a 5 gallon bucket and get some production from it.

Also, I've been listening to this guy for what seems like decent garden advice to fall asleep to. He is basically the gardening version of Bob Ross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz9VmI0tTSk

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Wild carrot, also known as Queen Anne's Lace, is literally a weed

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Honestly don't even touch plants that look similar to carrot unless you really know what they are. The carrot family is filled with the worst plants that have sap which can burn your skin in sunlight.

Local news in the US loves covering teens who've been hosed up by the stuff every summer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viCsoaw66mk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85sNJJVapqs

It's not dangerous if you're careful. But most people really aren't.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

twoday posted:

regrowing plants from scraps is like loving witchcraft, I love it

plant propagation can get pretty interesting

micro-propagation is the hardest to do at home, but is the coolest way to do it

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

net work error posted:

I tried regrowing some bok choy from scraps but it ended up just kind of rotting and turning into mush. I think maybe I left too much of it submerged or something?

forcing sprouts by placing a plant in tap water is always sort of a gamble. even when it goes well, the plant isn't able to get nutrients from the water. So the leaves are less nutritious and the roots aren't the best adapted to transplanting. experiment with it a bit more even if you have some failures.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Crane Fist posted:

Them shits look horrible, like a bowl of grubs. Feel like they're going to start wriggling any second

there probably is a bunch of little grubs in a normal bunch of mulberries. just extra protein I guess?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

tap water can have salts, so that plant is probably grabbing it that way


this is so cursed

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

silicone thrills posted:

The kudzu is a joke right? ha--haha unless you aren't in america. then that's fine. I guess.

that type of pear is also invasive in north america, and so is bamboo in some places

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The internet is literally the worst for gardening advice. Even a lot of the writing by professional non-specialist sources is ripping off blog posts by amateurs. I basically only look at university extension sites or stuff from people writing from a business perspective.

I think with oak leaves, and any hardwood leaves, that by the time they are broken down into soil the decomposition process has buffered out the pH. I guess maybe some of the runoff would be acidic?

it looks like this is the study sites are referencing showing oak leaves don't acidify soil
https://archive.lib.msu.edu/tic/mitgc/article/199866b.pdf

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

working in landscaping for a little bit has made me extremely reluctant to do any sort of foraging near landscaping

you don't know what type of herbicides or pesticides have been sprayed in any area. a few common types of herbicide can take a few weeks to show obvious effects.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011


the yellow flowers are birdsfoot trefoil, which is commonly used for pastures but also invasive in wilderness areas. you don't have to get rid of it, but just be careful. I've worked in natural area restoration so I have like a Pavlovian negative reaction to seeing it.

the purple flowers are red clover, and the white flowers that look similar are white clover. I think the plants with white flowers and frilly leaves are yarrow. but yeah, thanks for leaving some spots for pollinators. Bees LOVE clover.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Qurnah posted:



and here's our statue of lenin, i had to hide it in the forest otherwise soros would stop sending me money

https://twitter.com/pourmecoffee/status/1273007599273816078

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

every garden on the west coast is now a shade garden

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

net work error posted:

Anyone doing their own composting itt?

yes

do I do it well is a different question

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

tossing in meat or grease is the quickest way too

the less dumb way to mess up composting is to include diseased plant material, weed seeds or other pathogens without having the compost get hot enough to kill all that stuff. Not turning the compost will get you anaerobic decomposition, which makes a pile unpleasant and means you lose out out on nitrogen that plants can uptake.

I guess you can mess it up by having the wrong ratio of "green" to "brown" material, or having the wrong moisture, so it doesn't really cook in the first place. It just breaks down slower, you still get compost eventually.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

net work error posted:

I wanted to see if those that were composting use compost starter or not. I was thinking about getting a little tumbler to try it out.

i wouldn't recommend one

but I've never composted with a tumbler, and in a small, isolated system it might be useful. i rely on critters to bring the good microorganisms to my pile.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

is it even possible to smother thistle?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

I've ordered from Seed Savers the past few years. I've liked the results and they seem legit. Nice variety too choose from. I've never been to their source farms or shipping facilities, so I guess they could be flipping stuff, but I have no reason to suspect they are.

https://www.seedsavers.org/

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

wolfs posted:

what’s a cool alternative ground cover to grass? zone 8b

I got some construction guys to fill in the depression behind my fence & I don’t want it to wash away. they put a green net and some straw over the dirt but that’s not very aesthetic

normally construction crews spread a seed mix before putting down an erosion blanket.

if can, ask them what it was. if it's not just turf grass, it might be a seed mix recommended by your state's Departments of Transportation or something similar. That will let you know what you're dealing with.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

ordered my seeds last week. lol at the supplier having a 30 day delay for shipping because of covid. Bad year to not order in November for the first time.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

wild grapes are the worst

the leaves can be used in some wraps I guess

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

squirrels definitely have personalities and different habits as well. I've had years where there is a squirrel that loves tearing apart tulip flowers or digging in potted plants, but normally I don't have an issue with them.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The Voice of Labor posted:

whatever this is



dianthus

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

i'm currently in the middle of battling Japanese beetles. i've killed hundreds so far this year by smacking them off leaves into a soapy bucket

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

I prefer ceramic pots to plastic. I'm not sure if they impact the root growth, but it definitely helps soil moisture be manageable.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

i say swears online posted:

the local park near me trims their trees for a disc golf course and they put great looking logs out for anyone to take. the wall of logs is maybe 12'x4' now since it's so hot there are no takers. if i had a fireplace i'd stock up

get into mushroom cultivation and grab the fresh ones to inoculate with spores

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The Demilich posted:

I'm new to this, but I want to build the perfect work area for gardening and I want to go all out.

I'm talking raised beds, grow lights, a timed watering setup, etc. The catch is that my grow area is outside (no shade possible). Working area is 12x24ft and I'm in zone 9b/10a.

I have no idea where to start with this though. Someone throw me a bone and tell me what is good to grow, and how best to set what I want up.

gardening is about adaptation and learning, so don't expect to have a perfect set up right away

before you start you should consider how much you can and want to invest. not just money, but in time and effort.

also radishes are real easy for a first harvest

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

i got bad news posted:

aren't the chip drops usually done the same day a tree crew takes down a tree? Wouldn't this be really lovely fuel?

I think you could throw them in some paper leaf bags, keep them out of the rain, and let them dry for a few months

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

If I kept track correctly, seed packets from Seed Savers went up 50 cents this year over last.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

TheSlutPit posted:

In general it’s just:

- cut at a part thats fully “wooded” (not a green stem) and trim off any leaves at the base. You want at least 3 inches of stem before the leaves start
- score or abrade the new root end a bit
- dip it in some rooting hormone powder
- place in a small cup full of very wet starting media with about 1-2 inches of stem buried depending on the size of the cutting
- keep moist for ~4 weeks and keep an eye on the leaves
- transplant

Pretty easy in my experience but idk if yerba presents any special challenges

seems like it worked for these guys
https://www.scielo.br/j/asagr/a/Kv5g3Ds5LG4pjVHRDJMLZWR/?lang=en

they tested some extra stuff but it didn't really matter

here's another paper looking at propagation of Ilex paraguariensis
https://www.ipef.br/publicacoes/scientia/nr128/2318-1222-scifor-48-128-e3087.pdf

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Platystemon posted:

:yeah:

Just don’t let them become invasive.

Fabaceæ is OP.

gently caress honey locust

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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The Voice of Labor posted:

any recommendations for perennials or self seeders that blossom in the fall? yesterday I had a hummingbird looking over the yard, today a straggling honey bee. whatever sweet nectar those guys usually eat at this time of year seems to be suffering supply chain problems

where you at. in the east of the US it's goldenrod and late aster season. Some of those guys are perennials and self seeders, but also very aggressive.

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