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Mr. Humalong posted:These fullclaims are loving insane because all I got was a goddamn hat that gives semi-useless results Ghosts KCW - Gryffindor/Gryffindor Sand - Slytherin/Ravenclaw Miku - Gryffindor/Slytherin ??? - ???/Hufflepuff Death Eaters E+ - Hufflepuff/Syltherin Ecco - Gryffindor/Gryffindor ??? - ???/??? ??? - ???/??? One member of each team, and only one, has a fakeclaim whose House matches their actual identity, and especially notably, neither one is that team's godfather. I think they're hat-godfathers and any other discrepencies found by the hat will indicate scum. (Well, obviously they would, because end all liars, but they were vulnerable to it all game is the point.)
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Ahahaha Andy what the HELL. You expect us to believe zzyzx was nailing scum from day 4 and you didn't think to give him your bulletproof untrackable item until night 7?! How many times do I have to name drop the invisibility cloak in my post, and straight up say I don't trust night 7 results, before you realize I'm trying to protect you? I saw you go in under the cloak, but unlike Leith, you didn't claim to have been doing anything else that night, so Leith was either hasted up, lying, or impersonated, any 3 of which would make the "Leith" who targeted zzyzx the killer. I thus assumed you were some sort of town protective role and was trying as hard as I possibly could to signal INVISIBILITY CLOAK I CAN SEE THROUGH THEM and NIGHT 7 I TARGETED ZZYZX AGAIN so that I wouldn't have to out you as a town power role but you just barged right through it. And now based on the fact you could have given the bulletproof roleblock proof cloak to our claimed cop at any time and only tried to do the night he just happened to die I'm kicking myself for putting myself on the line for that - because I firmly believe launch all liars and I DID leave this out so you can't trust me, but now it was pointless.
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May 1, 2020 02:54
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Well if you are town and either / both of Jose and PQ (and anyone else who can steal) who are scum are going to accio the hell out of that cloak, but don't worry, it won't be like we have a town watcher to keep them honest about it!
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May 1, 2020 03:04
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Weird how you "watched" two people visit the cop who died and it's me you're after
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May 1, 2020 03:06
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Christ, that’s at least semi-plausible. Let me think about it. ##unvote
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May 1, 2020 03:06
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Jose Valasquez posted:Weird how you "watched" two people visit the cop who died and it's me you're after I'm voting for you honestly I'm suspicious of everyone. Just on my night actions it's: Capn Andy for not giving the cloak up to zzyzx and targeting zzyzx (I didn't know that he had that option) Leith for being seen visiting zzyzx You for claiming you killed Liger but me only seeing Dexanth go in And based on his posting style / scum slip (maybe) I'd go Hum, I'd go PQ for coasting and trying to push the Leith theory, hell I'd almost vote Kash just because I don't know wtf is going on with that role and posting and I don't like it. Hell I'd vote just about anyone. You were the one my initial logic pointed to.
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May 1, 2020 03:09
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Tom Tucker posted:Well if you are town and either / both of Jose and PQ (and anyone else who can steal) who are scum are going to accio the hell out of that cloak, but don't worry, it won't be like we have a town watcher to keep them honest about it!
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May 1, 2020 03:10
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CapnAndy posted:The cloak is gone. I specifically asked TF what would happen if I gave it to zzy and he was nightkilled and/or roleblocked that night. I wouldn't have been nearly as forthcoming if it was still in the game. OK that makes me feel a LOT better about your claim actually.
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May 1, 2020 03:12
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If I'm the SK that you seem to think I am (or am I scum with PQ now? It's hard to keep it straight). Why haven't I been serial killing?
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May 1, 2020 03:29
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TT I get youd vote everyone, and you’re pretty sure on Jose, but who else is scum
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May 1, 2020 03:38
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Jose Valasquez posted:If I'm the SK that you seem to think I am (or am I scum with PQ now? It's hard to keep it straight). Why haven't I been serial killing? Does anyone want to help me make sense of the nightkill flavors? If we assume flavor is specific to faction, then ghosts strangle and DEs use the killing curse, since miku ate an avada kedavra and the ghosts obviously wouldn't be killing their own dudes. The nightkills look like this: Night 1: Two AKs Night 2: AK, shot Night 3: Strangle Night 4: Strangle, AK, shot Night 5: Two strangles Night 6: Two AKs Night 7: AK If flavor is specific to faction, that's a lot of haste potions. If it's not, this entire line of speculation is pointless.
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May 1, 2020 03:39
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I’m gonna again hammer the drum of STRANGLES ARE UNBLOCKABLE KILLS NOT FACTION SPECIFIC
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May 1, 2020 03:41
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Kashuno posted:I’m gonna again hammer the drum of STRANGLES ARE UNBLOCKABLE KILLS NOT FACTION SPECIFIC I'm trying to use the kills to guess if there's a house ghost left or not. Ecco was very sure there were only three and I don't think she lied about that, but she may have been wrong.
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May 1, 2020 03:44
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CapnAndy posted:There's no way you're scum with PQ. The only scum group with potentially two members remaining is the death eaters. You, PQ, and E+ all entered the RoR together. It absolutely beggars belief that an organized scumgroup would send three (potentially all they have) members into the room together. The shots were me and Liger. They were one shot kills. Kashuno posted:I’m gonna again hammer the drum of STRANGLES ARE UNBLOCKABLE KILLS NOT FACTION SPECIFIC I think this is accurate. The two AK's on N1 don't make sense otherwise imo
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May 1, 2020 03:44
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Jose Valasquez posted:The shots were me and Liger. They were one shot kills.
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May 1, 2020 03:45
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CapnAndy posted:Also possible! ##unvote If you believe there is a ghost left there are only two options that makes sense. Jose was roleblocked as a ghost and unable to perform their kill last night OR Leith is a ghost roleblocker and chose to roleblock instead of kill to frame Jose
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May 1, 2020 03:46
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Tom, Do you believe Andy had the invisibility cloak as one time?
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May 1, 2020 03:50
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CapnAndy posted:What makes you think Liger only had one shot? Because I had one shot too and the flavor matched, I stole mine from the ministry, he was a ministry agent. If LIGER had more than one shot he would have used it indiscriminately shooting into the crowd to hit a target
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May 1, 2020 03:51
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Kashuno posted:##unvote And yet TT is claiming that Leith targetted zzxyz
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May 1, 2020 03:51
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Jose Valasquez posted:If I'm the SK that you seem to think I am (or am I scum with PQ now? It's hard to keep it straight). Why haven't I been serial killing? There's so much poo poo going on I don't know - you got rbed, maybe protections, maybe kills were blocked by certain things. I'm willing to entertain theories. Jose Valasquez posted:The shots were me and Liger. They were one shot kills. This is reasonable - there's little else that explains it. Jose Valasquez posted:Because I had one shot too and the flavor matched, I stole mine from the ministry, he was a ministry agent. If LIGER had more than one shot he would have used it indiscriminately shooting into the crowd to hit a target This is a big leap from stating they were one-shot kills. Jose Valasquez posted:And yet TT is claiming that Leith targetted zzxyz I made it very clear that that was my result but I am not sure that's what happened and painting it as me saying Leith targeted zzyzx is suspicious.
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May 1, 2020 03:59
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Jose Valasquez posted:And yet TT is claiming that Leith targetted zzxyz I’m almost positive TT is a death eater. If there is a ghost remaining in this game, which flavor suggests there must be, I think it’s possibly Better from a town perspective to try and solve that issue now rather than later. I’m torn.
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May 1, 2020 04:01
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Tom Tucker posted:There's so much poo poo going on I don't know - you got rbed, maybe protections, maybe kills were blocked by certain things. I'm willing to entertain theories. quote:This is a big leap from stating they were one-shot kills. quote:I made it very clear that that was my result but I am not sure that's what happened and painting it as me saying Leith targeted zzyzx is suspicious. I 100% without a doubt know that my wand was not where I left it, this has been claimed all game as Leith's ability. Leith said he targeted me with it. I'm willing to entertain the idea that Leith is a deatheater and lied about his ability (I said this earlier) and that his last remaining partner targeted me instead, but that still implicates Leith, not me.
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May 1, 2020 04:07
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I doubt Leith is a death eater or they’d have two roleblockers
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May 1, 2020 04:09
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Kashuno posted:I doubt Leith is a death eater or they’d have two roleblockers We don't have any proof that Leith is a roleblocker, he has never targeted anyone that was using spells or lived to tell about it
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May 1, 2020 04:11
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I think the wand thing might be a framer, they killed zzyzx but knew they couldn't block him and were afraid that might fail so they framed me, an obvious choice
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May 1, 2020 04:12
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Tom Tucker posted:Night 2: KCW – I saw Merk enter the room. I also made eye contact with Spoonsy. This is why I flipped on my feelings on KCW Day 3 since I knew Merk was telling the truth about the target. This is also why I was trying to engage with Spoonsy on whether he needed me to claim when he was discussing his power, it would have outed me as at least a power role. Kloaked00 posted:-Spoonsy sees Amnistar leaving DBD's room Hey Tom why are you lying about N2?
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May 1, 2020 04:22
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Jose Valasquez posted:Hey Tom why are you lying about N2? Lol I just saw this and night 4 which is almost definitely a lie and night 6 unless there's an endless amount of polyjuice potion running around
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May 1, 2020 04:27
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Jose Valasquez posted:Hey Tom why are you lying about N2? What am I lying about N2? I watched KCW, Merk targeted him, Spoonsy appeared in a flash of light, we made weird eye contact, and both turned around. I'm as confused about why I made eye contact with Spoonsy as anyone else, but it's the truth.
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May 1, 2020 04:45
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Kashuno posted:I’m almost positive TT is a death eater. If there is a ghost remaining in this game, which flavor suggests there must be, I think it’s possibly Better from a town perspective to try and solve that issue now rather than later. I’m torn. So, let's assume there is a ghost left in the game and let's ignore Tom's bullshit for the moment. I think we're comfortable saying there is at most a single ghost. If I was the ghost why would PQ back up my claim that I knew he was a target and I wanted to help him? He is not my ghost buddy because there is only one ghost. Also, what is the benefit of my ability to see flavor character as a ghost?
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May 1, 2020 04:47
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Tom Tucker posted:What am I lying about N2? I watched KCW, Merk targeted him, Spoonsy appeared in a flash of light, we made weird eye contact, and both turned around. I'm as confused about why I made eye contact with Spoonsy as anyone else, but it's the truth. Did Spoonsy ever claim this? I only see Spoonsy saying he visited DBD's door on N2.
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May 1, 2020 04:50
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I mean if you're questioning whether Spoonsy and I made eye contact that night I tried to drop some hints at him to figure things out, based on the flavor of him appearing in a flash of light. Tom Tucker posted:I was going to examine yesterday assuming Amni and xopods were unconfirmed mason-buddies (which would explain the hammer before xopods could more fully claim) but now I want to see if you can shine some more light on this before I spend any hours digging through. Tom Tucker posted:I mean, yeah, I do. I don't want to put words in his mouth but Spoonsy started day 1 with a soft roleclaim. Seeing that, and knowing he was town, I'd want to see how it played out, then after seeing what was up he decided to claim having determined he could shine light on spoonsy, amni, and you all at once. I have no idea why Spoonsy saw me the same night he says he saw Amni. My best theory was that his patronus was more of a "light up everything around" showing targets, targets of targets, etc. I referenced this here: Tom Tucker posted:Would Tokes make you “Tomato Soup’s house - The Role” to tuck with you? Which is a reference to a crazy night in Heroes 1 where something similar happened. I don't know why I saw Spoonsy that night. If I was scum and lying, why would I make it up? His night action doesn't overlap with mine. It gains me nothing.
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May 1, 2020 04:51
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Oh man, I'm gonna laugh so hard if someone hosed with your Mad Eye and you just constantly see wrong results.
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May 1, 2020 04:51
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When Spoonsy claimed I was trying to suss out what was going on, since I know he saw me too.Tom Tucker posted:Spoonsy based on the night action how many people are we talking about here? How much do you think it would benefit to do a full reveal of people who have seen you? Spoonsy posted:Last night. Tom Tucker posted:Last night or a previous night? Re-reading this as I put this together he straight up mentions that Amni was a bonus of a glance, that could be how it was connected? Again I was trying to figure out what brought us together, I couldn't explain it. Making it up and claiming it would gain me nothing since everyone involved is dead, no?
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May 1, 2020 04:53
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Holy poo poo, that's it, every single one of your results is wrongTom Tucker posted:Night 1: Officer Liger, no results. quote:Night 2: KCW – I saw Merk enter the room. I also made eye contact with Spoonsy. This is why I flipped on my feelings on KCW Day 3 since I knew Merk was telling the truth about the target. This is also why I was trying to engage with Spoonsy on whether he needed me to claim when he was discussing his power, it would have outed me as at least a power role. quote:Night 3: Officer Liger, no results. quote:Night 4: Officer Liger, Dexanth targeted him, figured Dex was a town vig. No other results except my potion was gone. quote:Night 5: Watched zzyzx, Ecco targeted him. At this point I figured zzyzx would be a magnet for scum actions so I was locked in on him. I Played this result cool in thread and simply said “happy to vote ecco” since it was already clear Ecco was done and there was no need for me to claim to ensure it. quote:Night 6: Watched zzyzx, Amni targeted him. Assumed Amni was another scum roleblocker so I pushed him really hard that day. The flip really threw me. quote:Night 7: Watched zzyzx, Leith targeted him.
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May 1, 2020 05:03
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Jose Valasquez posted:Holy poo poo, that's it, every single one of your results is wrong N2 you saw merk visit KCW which jives with what merk claimed, but Spoonsy wasn't at KCW's room, he was at DBD's room so you saw someone else. N4 you saw LIGER get targeted, but it wasn't Dex it was me. N5 you only saw one person, since zzyzx was roleblocked and Ecco was not the roleblocker you didn't see Ecco, you saw Mikujin N6 again you only saw one person, zzyzx was roleblocked, you saw Mikujin N7 you saw Andy and Leith, this is consistent with Andy's claim and zzyzx died, but Leith claim's to have targeted me so whoever you saw killed zzyzx OR Andy killed him Either that or you are the worst liar I've ever seen in Mafia and my brain has to make sense of why you would be so bad at lying. One additional thing I noticed, this seems inconsistent: CapnAndy posted:I had two options every night; I could wear it, which did not use up a night action and was thus very spiffy indeed, or I could give it away. Tom Tucker posted:How many times do I have to name drop the invisibility cloak in my post, and straight up say I don't trust night 7 results, before you realize I'm trying to protect you? I saw you go in under the cloak, but unlike Leith, you didn't claim to have been doing anything else that night, so Leith was either hasted up, lying, or impersonated, any 3 of which would make the "Leith" who targeted zzyzx the killer Andy says he doesn't wear his cloak when he gives it away, TT says he saw Andy wearing the cloak N7 when he saw him.
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May 1, 2020 05:43
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Caught up before bed. Holy moly. So it’s like way more likely TT just had a bad fakeclaim post instead of being a watcher who gets bad results, right ? The lies are so bad.
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May 1, 2020 06:02
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Jose Valasquez posted:Andy says he doesn't wear his cloak when he gives it away, TT says he saw Andy wearing the cloak N7 when he saw him. TT is wrong about so drat much. I think my callout was right and he just head-faked me right the hell out of my shoes with that response. If he'd seen me and just wanted me to stay quiet, all he needed to say was that he saw Leith and me target zzy but he had reason to believe my action was protective. Hell, I'd have even confirmed his results as trustworthy! ##vote TT it's gotta be him and if I'm wrong and we lose I'm gonna be awfully interested to see what has possibly gone down all game.
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May 1, 2020 08:15
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Votecount for Day 8  Jose Valasquez (2): Pussy Quipped, Tom Tucker (2): Kashuno, Jose Valasquez, CapnAndy, Not Voting (3): Kashuno, Mr. Humalong, Pussy QuippedWith 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is May 01st, 2020 at 9 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 12 hours, 58 minutes.
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May 1, 2020 13:01
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Jose Valasquez posted:So, let's assume there is a ghost left in the game and let's ignore Tom's bullshit for the moment. yep, I buy this. ##vote Leith I think Leith is the ghost and TT is a DE. I think Leith therefore makes more sense as the kill today.
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I agree with kashuno. Since we know this will be the last ghost it will eliminate a kill tonight but we don’t know for sure how many death eaters there are. ##vote leith
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