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Quote-Unquote posted:Humbug is one of the best episodes, and it's sad that Michael J Anderson is a Nazi now. This always boggles my mind. I mean he was stable as 'recently' as Scooby Doo Mystery Inc, right? Like I don't recall him getting into trouble or saying insane poo poo then. Was he just always a fascist piece of poo poo and decided Trump was time to go mask-off? But his comments about Lynch and his daughter suggest he's more than just a fascist and is the sort of lunatic that would have trouble functioning in polite society and keeping their views private. Like I honestly can't help but worry that he had some kind of brain disease or something. Since, granted I never followed his life closely or anything, it seems he went from sane person to 'literally insane Nazi' at the flip of a switch, no slow gradual radicalization or anything. Just bam.
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After The War posted:I just watched "Shapes" last week, and it's... not bad as far as 90s Native American depictions go, since it's mostly about territorial issues (both between the people on the Reservation and the white ranchers, and between Mulder/Scully and local law enforcement) in the way early X-Files often was. The actual folklore is apparently pretty mangled to fit it into a werewolf story, but there's no mystical Voyager bullshit, if that's what you're worried about. That's good to know  Just passed the brain-frozen killer episode and I think that makes 3(?) possession episodes almost one after another. IMO so far the best episodes are the ones with a more scientific basis, although I guess at the time ESP was still in dispute -- Uri Geller was still publicly grifting. So they get kind of a pass with that but they're still vaguely frustrating to me when they're presented in the same way. The bugs episode was good though. And the Bebe From Frasier episode much earlier in the season is pretty memorable. I guess she was typecast even back then, I wonder what started that. Also I like the way Scully at this point is just visibly sighing at Mulder's theories but goes along with them anyway, I also like the dynamic established earlier where Mulder was clearly thinking of a wacky UFO theory but wouldn't say it, leaving Scully to suggest it and him to rebuff it, even though when I write it out now, this seems like a dick move. Scully so far seems to be a more rounded and interesting character than Mulder, but... that's the point, I guess. Her quips are some of the best.
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If you end up going the distance, prepare to alternate between being frustrated/angry/disappointed with Mulder over the way he treats Scully. Scully is absolutely the more compelling character, too. Although in the later seasons Scully kind of stalls out a bit.
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:If you end up going the distance, prepare to alternate between being frustrated/angry/disappointed with Mulder over the way he treats Scully. That's good to know, yeah. There's a scene earlier in the series where he asks why she doesn't believe, after everything she's seen, and she responded along the lines of "I can't believe". It's a really good counterpoint to Mulder. I also like how she's obviously had an effect on him because he's jumping to conspiracy theories much less. So far most of the writing has been super good, it's a shame that most of what I've heard (here, lol) say that it loses its fizzle.
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alexandriao posted:Hmm. Hoping someone else will have a better handle on this, currently watching the warewolf episode in season one, how does the indigenous peoples stuff still hold up? In every episode Mulder and Scully are guided through by an interpreter while the cultural group they are in shun them. The MOTW often needs many scenes full of exposition to explain what is going on. Usually by some confused elder who explain this stuff is myth not fact. Shapes misuses mythology from the Algonquin tribe and redressed it as a warewolf story. They all use the "alien" nature of another culture to force in mystery, which feels cheap. Hell Money, Teliko and El Mundo Gira both are good examples of how bad it can get trying to make a clear commentary on race while having someone's cultural boogeyman out to kill. Kaddish is likely the only one that works the best as it was written by someone from an appropriate background and generally focused on a story of love and revenge driven by a gate crime vs a culture having an evil mythological beast on the loose.
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It's also just a good episode. Those other four not so much
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Speaking of fascists its extremely funny in s3e7 The Walk (the one about a paraplegic veteran killing his COs via astral projection) to see Mulder defending the Gulf War and the MIC and saying that that dude should take responsibility for his horrific disability because "you're a soldier, you knew what you signed up for!" It's like the writers literally forgot everything about Mulder's character and beliefs for that one scene somehow, it's loving insane.
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Wolfsheim posted:Speaking of fascists its extremely funny in s3e7 The Walk (the one about a paraplegic veteran killing his COs via astral projection) to see Mulder defending the Gulf War and the MIC and saying that that dude should take responsibility for his horrific disability because "you're a soldier, you knew what you signed up for!" Watched that one yesterday and I guess it flew under my radar  On episode 9 atm and it's infuriating the amount of times mulder could have just taken out a travel camera and taken a handful of shots. He doesn't need a full camera, just a disposable that's enough to get a few shots to back up things to scully or skinner when they don't believe him.
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A bit off topic, but I watched Final Destination for the first time ever last night (I know) and it was funny to see the guy who played Pusher as the father and the monster from 'Hungry' as one of the classmates. I saw it was directed by James Wong but I didn't make the X-Files connection until Glen Morgan's name came up in the credits.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:This always boggles my mind. I mean he was stable as 'recently' as Scooby Doo Mystery Inc, right? Like I don't recall him getting into trouble or saying insane poo poo then. I hadn’t heard of any of this- what’s the deal?
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I just came across the 1992 CBS miniseries Intruders, based loosely on the 1987 book of the same name about alien abductions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ9Wqw6mCJ0 It was interesting to watch this keeping in mind it came out the year before The X-Files debuted. Definitely shows just how much the latter show was reflecting the conspiracy culture of the time. It even has a cigar-smoking member of the UFO conspiracy give an info-dump to our hero!
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Well, halfway through season 4 now, and I'm surprisingly happy with the mytharc stuff so far. I expect to eventually be disappointed. The smoking man episode was really good, also it explains in part why he's giving Mulder so much leeway. The second TV suggestion episode was better than the one in the first season IMHO, and the one I watched yesterday about the regenerative guy I really enjoyed. There do seem to be more "meh" episodes but that could just be me blocking out the ones in the earlier seasons, tbh. There have been a couple of episodes, almost one each season, where they completely mess with Mulder and Scully's characters with no plot explanation, which has been disappointing. Also the reactions that Scully or whoever else Mulder is talking to, pull are one of the best bits of the show. Just really satisfying to see the double takes people give him. I love how he's still often playing the fool and letting Scully suggest the supernatural explanation and then he's like "hah yep I have a bunch of case files on this  "
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The mytharc gets a lot of poo poo but really when you look at it we got 6 very solid seasons out of that story. It's only after The Syndicate is destroyed that Carter seemed to run out of ideas. Carter's big mistake was not simply concluding that mytharc right then and there, and starting something new. Look at the show Supernatural, which had a very long continuous storyline that came to an end after 5 seasons. The creator of the show had that entire story plotted out from the beginning, but when it ended it ended. They then went off and did new stories, obviously some more successful than others, but I never felt like they were trying to string the same story out beyond where it naturally should've ended.
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I am still in the midsts of season three and I had no idea the same actor who played the stoner in the one truly great reboot episode (weremonster) was reprising his role of a stoner in the cockroaches episode For someone who looks like a slovenly stoner he has aged incredibly well because he looks the exact same two decades apart
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They were also in the episode with the lake in georgia* *georgia, BC
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The Syndicate has the worst security ever. I'm up to season 6 on my re-watch and the alien rebels are constantly infiltrating military bases, assassinating scientists and even taking out members of the Syndicate. I get that they can change their appearance, but I would have thought there'd at least be a few guards to protect important people.
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Capntastic posted:I hadn’t heard of any of this- what’s the deal? He's been posting crazy poo poo like this since around 2015, mixed in with a whole load of "Jews are running Hollywood" conspiracy bullshit. 
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Maelstache posted:He's been posting crazy poo poo like this since around 2015, mixed in with a whole load of "Jews are running Hollywood" conspiracy bullshit. Like other kinds of brain worms, if that stuff actually did happen, that's the least credible way to get the word out so that people will believe you.
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Also, lol at season 5. Scully gets a magic chip for her cancer, and gets it implanted, and then after 2 hours is like "well, nothing has happened, that didn't work". Like excuse me??? It takes about three days for your immune system to get rid of a cold. You probably want to give it more than a few hours to get rid of cancer. Also I think they really undercut Mulder's character with the episode about how he met the three hackers. I don't think him being interested in aliens because of being exposed to high doses of a paranoia compound actually helps with his story? I dunno.
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alexandriao posted:Well, halfway through season 4 now, and I'm surprisingly happy with the mytharc stuff so far. I expect to eventually be disappointed. Yeah, I really like the mytharc stuff until somewhere in season 6. I think the first five seasons plus the first movie make a really nice series (albeit without a real ending). There are still plenty of good individual episodes after that, though.
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alexandriao posted:Also, lol at season 5. The show always sort of delighted in undercutting Mulder, but I also always felt that episode was never meant to be taken a face value, kind of like MoaCSM. It was totally worth it for the Richard Belzer guest appearance though.
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howe_sam posted:The show always sort of delighted in undercutting Mulder, but I also always felt that episode was never meant to be taken a face value, kind of like MoaCSM. It was totally worth it for the Richard Belzer guest appearance though. Steven Williams being on there owned too. I'm still to this day disappointed with how they killed his character off. He brought such an intensity to that role. Definitely my favorite of Mulder's informants.
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howe_sam posted:The show always sort of delighted in undercutting Mulder, but I also always felt that episode was never meant to be taken a face value, kind of like MoaCSM. It was totally worth it for the Richard Belzer guest appearance though. hmm, how was MoaCSM not meant to be taken at face value? Asking because a lot of the time some very obvious themes will go over my head if they involve reading between the lines :/ Also, both Pusher episodes are probably my favourite. I really love how far they can take these episodes with a good concept and very little special effects.
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alexandriao posted:hmm, how was MoaCSM not meant to be taken at face value? Asking because a lot of the time some very obvious themes will go over my head if they involve reading between the lines :/ Frohike says in the episode that he got all his information on CSM from stories in a magazine he subscribes to, in other words he read CSM's writing for that porno mag. The episode is more about how CSM sees himself than his actual biography -- except for the Bills, he definitely kept them from winning the Super Bowl.
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I think the "Mulder starts distrusting his knowledge about UFOs" character arc would work a lot better if we, the audience hadn't already seen evidence of extraterrestrial life.
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howe_sam posted:Frohike says in the episode that he got all his information on CSM from stories in a magazine he subscribes to, in other words he read CSM's writing for that porno mag. The episode is more about how CSM sees himself than his actual biography -- except for the Bills, he definitely kept them from winning the Super Bowl. That's a fair comment, but the camera focuses on CSM the whole time. So we're not just listening to Frohike's story of CSM as told to Mulder, pieced together from writings by CSM. We're watching CSM, listening to his life story, as told to Mulder by Frohike, reconstructed from writing by CSM. So it's unclear how much of it is CSM remembering, versus Frohike retelling. Either way, thank you for that, I didn't catch it the first time around
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Hungry is still really good. I wish there'd been more MotW episodes from the perspective of the monster.
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Me: you know the thread was exaggerating, Skinner doesn't get hosed over that much *literally the next episode he is peppered spray and kicked on the ground by a twenty year old girl interning at the FBI because a mind control guy told her to* edit: I forgot pusher was a weeaboo lol Wolfsheim fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Jan 4, 2021 |
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Wolfsheim posted:Me: you know the thread was exaggerating, Skinner doesn't get hosed over that much Yeah Skinner has a hard time because on the one hand he really wants to let Mulder loose, but is afraid of what will happen if he does that, and also really can't because of the system they're all in.
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Halfway through Milagro and I have to keep pausing it to laugh at the lovely writing from the one character. I looked it up on Wiki and it turns out this wasn't intended as a parody, it's an earnest character examination? 
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So I just got through “War of the Coprophages” and holy poo poo what a killer episode. Every part is great. Scully rolling her eyes at everything, Mulder coming up with the most fantastically dumb theory, Bambi and the Dr walking off together, and the roach that crawls across the screen! It all works so well! This is definitely going on my list of go-to rewatch episodes.
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Kwatz posted:So I just got through “War of the Coprophages” and holy poo poo what a killer episode. Every part is great. Scully rolling her eyes at everything, Mulder coming up with the most fantastically dumb theory, Bambi and the Dr walking off together, and the roach that crawls across the screen! It all works so well! This is definitely going on my list of go-to rewatch episodes. Darin Morgan's episodes are all really fun and good.
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Ginette Reno posted:Darin Morgan's episodes are all really fun and good.  throughout, while I loved every second of it.
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Ginette Reno posted:Darin Morgan's episodes are all really fun and good. I looked up what he wrote for the series and they are all favorites of mine. Humbug loving rules. Started the next episode and WHAM! fat Ryan Reynolds out of the gate. And Laurie from that 70s show just murdered him! Hopefully this one goes well too.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Back when it was on Netflix you'd be surprised at how many young people would watch it. Or at least I was I just finished season 9 (which... hm) and I've been introducing it to a lot of friends, surprising how many have got hooked just from the first episode Currently planning a mass queer/trans watch via a CyTube instance I set up! Payndz posted:When my wife and I watched 'The Lost Art of Forehead Sweat' from season 11, she was all How does Season 11 fare? I'm nervous after the last two seasons
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alexandriao posted:I just finished season 9 (which... hm) and I've been introducing it to a lot of friends, surprising how many have got hooked just from the first episode It’s better than the end of the original show. The Chris Carter episodes are extremely bad, some are average, and the Darin Morgan ones are the greatest of the series.
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Man I'm imagining what an X-Files take on Covid would be like.
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Zwabu posted:Man I'm imagining what an X-Files take on Covid would be like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQDhDnUYn_E
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:It’s better than the end of the original show. The Chris Carter episodes are extremely bad, some are average, and the Darin Morgan ones are the greatest of the series. I’m rewatching season 3 and that’s true for it too. Watching Syzygy after War of the Coraphahes was rough. Mulder is just loving mean for no reason. It definitely feels like Carter is completely disconnected from where the series and actors are actually at in terms of development. Kwatz fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Feb 5, 2021 |
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