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Shrimp or Shrimps
Feb 14, 2012




I haven't seen it in ages, but I remember liking EBE because of its race-against-time conceit, and of course Mulder is just a hair too late to see an actual alien. And that tantalizing glimpse at a UFO's silhouette behind some kind of sheeting. Though it's been so long I may be mixing up episodes here, that silhouette glimpse might be from the stoner Seth Green episode. There's also another silhouette tease somewhere later on in the series, maybe season 3 or so, where Mulder and Scully are in some kind of abandoned factory building and you see little greys' silhouettes against presumably the bright light of their space craft outside. But never an actual good look. Mark Snow's music for scenes like that, the tittling dingling, is so memorable.

But as with EBE, the episode Drive having the clock ticking gimmick really gives it a lot of urgency for what is ultimately a fairly visually uninteresting episode. Cranston of course is good. There are a bunch of mediocre X-Files episodes that sort of meander and flop around as Mulder desperately tries to convince Scully of the next development in his theory.

Shrimp or Shrimps fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Jul 15, 2020

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Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


Darkness falls now. I remember it being loving great

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012



I appreciated the Scully/Doggett dynamic as swapping roles so that Scully was now the believer and Dogget the skeptic (in the same way we'd gotten the role reversal any time the episode mystery was religion-themed), but it was clear the show was running out of steam by that point.

I remember the first movie mostly for the desert and mountains surrounding Dallas.

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



Broken Cake

I knew the show was dead when in the post-movie season, smoking man says without irony that he's going to pin a series of deaths on an insane native american going on a rampage with a hatchet because America hates "the red man." I don't know if that was some kind of attempt at name-checking a contemporary first-nations rights issue in the US or Canada at the time or something, but it was so stupid that I just checked out at that point. The show never looked right outside of Vancouver anyway.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


Oh man I forgot Born Again was in season 1. This is a great episode

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


I liked the central conceit in Roland but I'm not sure how to feel about it otherwise.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



Milo and POTUS posted:

Darkness falls now. I remember it being loving great

One of the all-time great X-Files episodes for sure. I remember being completely freaked out by it as a kid. For some reason there was a young reader semi-novelization of that episode and I would just keep re-reading that, since it was before you could really easily rewatch episodes.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


The erlenmeyer flask was a pretty decent episode especially for a mytharc. The second season premier, little green men was kind of a dud I felt, although Skinner telling CSM to gently caress off was fun. Watching the Host now, a thread favorite I think?

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



Broken Cake

The monster of the week ones in the first half of season two are my absolute favorite stretch of episodes. Everything just feels so desperate and weird with the x-files shut down and the premise doesn’t really have firm boundaries or formulas set yet.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


EB from Deadwood in Blood. Also an actual porn star!

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!


Antifa Turkeesian posted:

with the x-files shut down

I love the series, but this is by far my least favorite gimmick. Felt like twice a season there was a threat of the FBI "closing the X-Files" or whatever. And, poo poo, it was a plot point in the goddamn movie.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


No he's right it makes sense in this context. The Xfiles actualy doesn't exist for a few episodes even

Strong Convections
May 8, 2008


Is the Lone Gunmen worth tracking down and watching?
I remember they got their own spinoff series but I think I only watched some of the episodes. I can't remember if it was good or bad or a waste of time.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


This is an excellent question because I love them on the show. Frohicke's a little overdue for a cancellation so I'd say kudos on the accuracy, XF writers!

In all seriousness for a nerd pervert who's basically a peeping tom writ large he's probably a little too decent.

Yannick_B
Oct 11, 2007


Milo and POTUS posted:

The erlenmeyer flask was a pretty decent episode especially for a mytharc. The second season premier, little green men was kind of a dud I felt, although Skinner telling CSM to gently caress off was fun. Watching the Host now, a thread favorite I think?

The mytharc episodes are good to great until the season 4 finale where it starts to wobble. Until then, they're solid thrillers with great character drama for the leads.

The season 6 2-parter that attempts to tie it all together is pretty clumsy, often dumb but also thrilling if you were into it back in the day. It's the biggest lesson/warning
in mythology building/payoff for all of genre tv.

WarEternal
Dec 25, 2010

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

A Fancy Hat posted:

That first revival season is rough and proves that Chris Carter is, somehow, the worst X-Files writer. Curse of the Were-Monster is one of the best episodes ever, though.

Fun fact: The script for this episode was literally sitting in a drawer for 10 years and something that Morgan originally wrote for the Kolchak reboot. It never got filmed because the reboot was cancelled very early. It's like 95% the same as the Kolchak script.

I never watched the 2nd reboot season because I intensely disliked all but this episode in the first season. And they couldn't get Vince Gilligan to write one loving new episode? Come on.

WarEternal fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Jul 19, 2020

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

This neckbearded nerd has incredibly stupid opinions on fantasy firearms.

"Remember, Mastershakeman is literally always wrong."







WarEternal posted:

Fun fact: The script for this episode was literally sitting in a drawer for 10 years and something that Morgan originally wrote for the Kolchak reboot. It never got filmed because the reboot was cancelled very early. It's like 95% the same as the Kolchak script.

I never watched the 2nd reboot season because I intensely disliked all but this episode in the first season. And they couldn't get Vince Gilligan to write one loving new episode? Come on.

watch lost art of forehead sweat, its worth it

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


Watch them all you masochist it's not like you've got anything else to do

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



Strong Convections posted:

Is the Lone Gunmen worth tracking down and watching?
I remember they got their own spinoff series but I think I only watched some of the episodes. I can't remember if it was good or bad or a waste of time.

I remember it being very hit or miss but the pilot episode at least is worth watching for predicting 9/11 a few months ahead of time.

WarEternal posted:

I never watched the 2nd reboot season because I intensely disliked all but this episode in the first season. And they couldn't get Vince Gilligan to write one loving new episode? Come on.

I'm pretty sure that Gilligan was approached but was too busy doing Better Call Saul.

Also as mentioned Lose Art of Forehead Sweat is absolutely worth watching. As is the robot sushi restaurant one.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

I remember the first season of the x files is really good, and I own it on DVD so I watch it every once and a while.

After reading this thread now i'm watching Season 2.

Jesus Christ these people are young, they seemed so old when I watched it as a teen.

edit: Holy poo poo is that Arlo Givens in Little Green Men?

algebra testes fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Jul 20, 2020

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


Is it 3 that's the terrible vampire one?

WarEternal
Dec 25, 2010

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Milo and POTUS posted:

Is it 3 that's the terrible vampire one?

Yes. This is the only episode in S1-5 that I consider 100% skippable.

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



Broken Cake

I think the idea of seeing Mulder do a case on his own is interesting. The execution is not very good, but since the show always balances him with Scully, I always wondered what he’d be like solo as an unhinged jerk.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

A Fancy Hat posted:

As a teenager I loved Mulder because I saw a lot of myself in him. As an adult? Skinner is where it's at. Just trying to keep your poo poo together, your boss is always trying to gently caress you over, you get some small moments of victory every so often, and you have to deal with constant insanity in your professional life.

Also, man this is so true.

edit: Can you imagine how much of a pain in the rear end Mulder would be as an employee.

Also Sleepless which means Krycek time baby!

algebra testes fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Jul 21, 2020

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


WarEternal posted:

Yes. This is the only episode in S1-5 that I consider 100% skippable.

I have no clue what the gently caress even happened in it.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006



Fun Shoe

The X-Files is good seasons 1-6. I'd probably avoid watching after that as the mythology gets pretty dumb but if you're that hard into it then there's still some decent standalone episodes past that.

I really love seasons 1-6 though (plus the first movie).

Shrimp or Shrimps
Feb 14, 2012




Just get a list of the best episodes from S7 onward, as they're still worth watching. Isn't Hollywood AD in S7? Or is that S6? The mytharc gets really, really bad once it starts featuring a baldwin brother.

There are quite a few really good Dogget episodes, too, need to look up a list of those for my eventual rewatch.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



Shrimp or Shrimps posted:

Just get a list of the best episodes from S7 onward, as they're still worth watching. Isn't Hollywood AD in S7? Or is that S6? The mytharc gets really, really bad once it starts featuring a baldwin brother.

Season 7 not only has Hollywood AD, but also Hungry, X-Cops, and En Ami, which are all favorites of mine. It also has First Person Shooter which is terrible but at least in a morbidly curious way given who wrote it, and Millennium which is at least worth a watch if you liked Millennium the show.

Seasons 8 and 9 I honestly think the good episodes can be counted on one hand. Though the episodes with Aaron Paul and Burt Reynolds stand out.

WarEternal
Dec 25, 2010

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Yeah, S7 is still 50/50 in my opinion. It's 8 and 9 where it falls off a cliff.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006



Fun Shoe

Chairman Capone posted:

Season 7 not only has Hollywood AD, but also Hungry, X-Cops, and En Ami, which are all favorites of mine. It also has First Person Shooter which is terrible but at least in a morbidly curious way given who wrote it, and Millennium which is at least worth a watch if you liked Millennium the show.

Seasons 8 and 9 I honestly think the good episodes can be counted on one hand. Though the episodes with Aaron Paul and Burt Reynolds stand out.

The Burt Reynolds episode does indeed own.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


lmao at Frohicke in one breath

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

This neckbearded nerd has incredibly stupid opinions on fantasy firearms.

"Remember, Mastershakeman is literally always wrong."







it's frankly shocking how well Doggett worked in the show

Yannick_B
Oct 11, 2007


mastershakeman posted:

it's frankly shocking how well Doggett worked in the show

Doggett and Reyes were not bad characters, it's just that the show was out of breath at that point.
If the mytharc had been properly closed and if they had been able to transition the show into more of a team investigation
type of show (like they exist right now) X-Files could've gone on for longer.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


Watching The Red Museum now. I remember a little about this one but the main gist escapes me

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


Excelseis dei is a bummer of an episode. It's also creepier than the average nursing home!

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

God there is some dogshit in s2.

Aside from the ghost surprise sex and volcano episodes are there any other "must skips" to keep an eye out for?

Shrimp or Shrimps
Feb 14, 2012




Wait what the volcano episode as a cheap thing ripoff is not something I remember as being bad, but actually good?

To be fair I haven't seen it in years and can't remember anything other than the creatures look like giant spider crabs.

Strong Convections
May 8, 2008


Yannick_B posted:

Doggett and Reyes were not bad characters, it's just that the show was out of breath at that point.
I'm not sure the show was out of breath, but it just wouldn't let go of Mulder/Scully (probably because the show was so hugely successful with them). I remember wishing that we could just get on with interesting X-Files with these new characters - Doggett was great, Reyes didn't really click with me, but maybe that was because Scully took up a lot of the partner character screentime.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Shrimp or Shrimps posted:

Wait what the volcano episode as a cheap thing ripoff is not something I remember as being bad, but actually good?

To be fair I haven't seen it in years and can't remember anything other than the creatures look like giant spider crabs.

I googled it, and not only does it have Brad Whitford in it, but it's also good, and like Ice one of my faves.

So I'm going to have to give it another go I reckon.

edit: Oh wow this owns actually? Why the gently caress didn't I like this a decade ago?

algebra testes fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Jul 23, 2020

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!



Fun Shoe

mastershakeman posted:

it's frankly shocking how well Doggett worked in the show

It helped a lot that right from his first appearance they had an idea of where they wanted his character to go, he was written as a fully developed, three dimensional character when they easily could've just made him a simple foil to Scully. Then throw in that it's Robert Patrick playing him and he comes across as 100% genuine at all times, and it really did work very well.

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