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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



New take: If y'all think you hated cheesy jokes in Star Wars before you are gonna hate what Taika Waititi comes up with for the new one.

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ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012
Hello I am a person doing a thing via buttons. It's amazing what electronic singnals traveling through space can accomplish.

Makes ya think.

Purple m&ms are the best.

taika waititi to direct 'elan sleazebaggano: a star wars story'. you'll want to go home and rethink your life after this one

Linux Pirate
Apr 21, 2012

Well, there goes our grant money.



How are the death sticks though?

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.



mind the walrus posted:

New take: If y'all think you hated cheesy jokes in Star Wars before you are gonna hate what Taika Waititi comes up with for the new one.
His bit with the troopers in The Mandalorian was great and I am very confident that, even if the emphasis on jokes will feel somewhat out of place for Star Wars, it'll still be 100% more palatable than TLJ's collection of absolute groaners.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008


/steps in poo poo

Ugh! Ickey ickey goo!

/laughtrack plays for 10 minutes

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

I still can't believe they cast Spock as me. Spock! Can you imagine?

Of course, he was missing a few things.



The greatest trick Sheev Palpatine ever pulled was convincing large numbers of movie viewers that genocide was, in fact, cool and good.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

It's short for Maxwell Jacob Friedman Fans, come on guys, use your noggins.

mind the walrus posted:

TLJ mostly ruled and the salt over it is delicious. It's got some major execution flaws, but the script is rock solid and it's a better actual "movie" than every other Star Wars flick save 1977. Luke was perfect. The Rey and Kylo stuff was really well-done. The only absolute mistake it made was doubling-down on putting the audience off-balance with the Holdo plot, and it needed a few more beats to establish Finn's ambivalence of fully embracing the Resistance.

There was a scene that very, very clearly established Finn's position as "fully left the First Order, but hasn't joined the Resistance"...and it got deleted. this too! For some loving reason!

imo, that movie's biggest mistake was splitting up Finn and Poe. I will defend a lot of stuff Rian Johnson did in TLJ because I honestly think his heart was in the right place for almost everything else in the movie but he tragically misunderstood Finn. The fact that he wrote a scene where Finn had to learn from another character that war is bad and war negatively affects children, you know, Finn, the child soldier was wack as gently caress.

And yeah the Holdo stuff was super clunky and I don't understand why but at least the hyperspace kamikaze ruled.

Also my Star Wars hot take is that Mandalorian was good. I liked Mandalorian.

MJeff fucked around with this message at 08:55 on May 20, 2020

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



MJeff posted:

There was a scene that very, very clearly established Finn's position as "fully left the First Order, but hasn't joined the Resistance"...and it got deleted. this too! For some loving reason!
Pacing. Definitely pacing. That scene should have been in though, I agree. They should have made it work.

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imo, that movie's biggest mistake was splitting up Finn and Poe. I will defend a lot of stuff Rian Johnson did in TLJ because I honestly think his heart was in the right place for almost everything else in the movie but he tragically misunderstood Finn. The fact that he wrote a scene where Finn had to learn from another character that war is bad and war negatively affects children, you know, Finn, the child soldier was wack as gently caress.
I don't think the intention was that Finn discovered that war was bad, as much as discovering that he wouldn't be allowed to opt-out of the war and that even places that seem divorced from politics are built on the exploited backs of kids like him, and Benicio Del Toro's opportunist was to let him know that he can't change sides on a whim or fence-sit, he's got to commit.

The execution was horrible.

It would have been trite, but more effective to show like, Finn trying to integrate himself into the Casino Planet and "move on" from the war and use a simple visual motif like his ID tattoo on himself and the kids and/or have some snooty rich people act classist toward him. You know, just connect the dot a bit harder.

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And yeah the Holdo stuff was super clunky and I don't understand why but at least the hyperspace kamikaze ruled.
It's another one of those things that works really well on paper and you can see the intention, but the execution doesn't work. So much of TLJ is gambling on short-term disappointment leading to long-term payoff and RJ is the kind-of writer who is really in-love with parallel storylines that hit on similar themes so it's a lot of immediate disappointment. I think the movie holds together but it's a rougher sit than it needs to be and not all of the payoffs work.

The most key stuff-- Luke, Kylo, Rey, Leia/Poe--works, but the rest really doesn't. Swing big, miss big, I guess. I can respect that a lot more than Rise of Skywalker.

And Luke was absolutely perfectly done. I get not liking where Luke ended up I don't think you were supposed to but I never bought that it was a betrayal of his character or unbelievable.

mind the walrus fucked around with this message at 09:35 on May 20, 2020

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

It's short for Maxwell Jacob Friedman Fans, come on guys, use your noggins.

To complete the baseball analogy, TFA is three solid doubles, TLJ is three massive swings that get you an ugly strikeout, a flyout and a home run into the next county and TRoS is somehow striking out on a bunt leading into a triple play.

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018



Pillbug

MJeff posted:

To complete the baseball analogy, TFA is three solid doubles, TLJ is three massive swings that get you an ugly strikeout, a flyout and a home run into the next county and TRoS is somehow striking out on a bunt leading into a triple play.

This is all I know about baseball and its rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyghaQMO5HQ

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008





Mooey Cow posted:

This is all I know about baseball and its rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyghaQMO5HQ





Zane
Nov 14, 2007


Butternubs posted:

The story in star wars should basically be a vehicle for space battles and lightsabre fights they've never been that cerebral, It's an action movie for kids. Every movie would be better if it was made a la john wick; absolute bare minimum story and 90% ILM special effects, John Williams music and sword fights. That's the problem I have with TLJ. The story's bland and doesn't make sense and it doesn't even pay off. I guess the hyperspace kamikaze was cool but that's about all I remember. 2/10
this would be completely true if the empire strikes back, in the form we understand it, had never been properly made. as it stands the 'essence' of star wars is potentially a lot more capacious. but that potential isn't often realized.

Zane fucked around with this message at 06:24 on May 21, 2020

nah
Mar 16, 2009



If Lucas didn't come up with it, it isn't canon

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world.

nah posted:

If Lucas didn't come up with it, it isn't canon

What's the boundaries for this? Cuz sounds like Episodes I-IV are canon, and V onwards are not

nah
Mar 16, 2009



That's right

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world.

nah posted:

That's right

oh but seriously I
Sep 26, 2019

Do you ever wonder if there are other planets out there
(source)

Darth Vader grandson should have worn a big Darth Vader mask over his strange tits and gut which looked like a giant sad face

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008


Technically any time an imperial calls a rebel a name such as traitor or terrorist, et. al. they arenít wrong.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

picture me workin McDonald's!
I'd rather pull a mac on you
sorry Ms. Jackson, but I'm packin


Pillbug

the stormtrooper armor isn't supposed to be effective, it's simply supposed to give the wearer a sense of security so they'll happily run into blaster fire

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world.

indigi posted:

the stormtrooper armor isn't supposed to be effective, it's simply supposed to give the wearer a sense of security so they'll happily run into blaster fire

those bastards wear it just walking around on tattooine, it's got to breath incredibly well.

docbeard
Jul 18, 2011

Modern worldly poster

The movie's title is "Star Wars", not "A New Hope" or "Episode 4".

thrilla in vanilla
Oct 9, 2012

NEVER LET A
RANDOM MOTHERFUCKER
SHOOT THE B ROLL



They should stop making Star Wars stuff. Itís over, go home.

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SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

She's delusional,
"where's god", etc.
Completely suicidal.
One day she snaps.
She wants to kill herself
but she realizes that
teen suicide is out this year
and homicide is a much healthier therapeutic expression.


docbeard posted:

The movie's title is "Star Wars", not "A New Hope" or "Episode 4".

This isn't even opinion, it's just a straight-up fact. I'm not sure it dawns on most folks anymore but all 9 movies actually have pretty specific titles that they go by on a pretty strict basis for super-official-no-cute-marketing-bullshit stuff like national film registries and such.

I believe the exact titles for each movie in the series are:
  • Star Wars
  • The Empire Strikes Back
  • Return of the Jedi
  • Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
  • Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones
  • Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
  • Star Wars: The Force Awakens
  • Star Wars: The Last Jedi
  • Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

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