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SilvergunSuperman posted:Oh well if that's it. Culture, education, standard of living, and pretty much every other aspect of life is so drastically different that South Koreans might as well be aliens from the future. People who have escaped the regime and made it to South Korea sometimes long to go back because the society they are moving into is so drastically different and they have trouble adapting. These are people who have been tortured, threatened with death, or starving, and they actually miss NK because there is nothing in South Korea except familiar looking faces and the ability to speak the language that they have in common. It's like taking a 15th Century peasant from rural England and putting him/her in the middle of present day Manhattan. Most people look the same, you can understand them (sort of) but you don't have anything in common with this society.
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Big Beef City posted:Fat Thanks. Makes sense.
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Blistex posted:Culture, education, standard of living, and pretty much every other aspect of life is so drastically different that South Koreans might as well be aliens from the future. People who have escaped the regime and made it to South Korea sometimes long to go back because the society they are moving into is so drastically different and they have trouble adapting. These are people who have been tortured, threatened with death, or starving, and they actually miss NK because there is nothing in South Korea except familiar looking faces and the ability to speak the language that they have in common. Here's an interesting piece on defectors trying to adjust to living in SK. I have read they face a lot of discrimination there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhaGIfgEiPE
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You know it is hard to tell, if Kim Jong Un has died...but he is weak...so he will possibly die today. Also as a reminder, he was having heart surgery yesterday, so it is possible that something happened.
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Pawn 17 posted:Here's an interesting piece on defectors trying to adjust to living in SK. I have read they face a lot of discrimination there. They had to start a course for defectors that is basically, "don't let your defection allowance get stolen by scammers" since for years this was a really popular grift that people would do. They'd befriend a defector, tell them they would help them out with their money problems (problem being they were given a shitload of money and didn't know how to use it) and would take off with the cash. Gotta be a really high-achieving lovely person to scam a refugee. Edit: The bullying doesn't surprise me as Korean kids immediately latch onto anyone who deviates from the "norm" in any manner and it's open season (not saying that bullying doesn't happen everywhere for those exact reasons, but the homogeneity of the place makes it much worse to fit in if you are perceived as being different in any way). I have friends with half-Korean kids in South Korea and all but one of them had to enroll their kids in international schools because of the discrimination, bullying, and ostracization their kids received. Blistex fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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Blistex posted:Edit: The bullying doesn't surprise me as Korean kids immediately latch onto anyone who deviates from the "norm" in any manner and it's open season (not saying that bullying doesn't happen everywhere for those exact reasons, but the homogeneity of the place makes it much worse to fit in if you are perceived as being different in any way). I have friends with half-Korean kids in South Korea and all but one of them had to enroll their kids in international schools because of the discrimination, bullying, and ostracization their kids received. Isn't that how kids everywhere are?
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super sweet best pal posted:Isn't that how kids everywhere are? These kids are worse because they're foreigners
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When white kids do it they're just being innocent kids
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Big Beef City posted:Fat Do you ever read one of those books where they list off diseases and symptoms and as you continue you begin to acknowledge that according to what you're reading, you might actually have every single one?
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super sweet best pal posted:Isn't that how kids everywhere are? Like I said, I happens everywhere (I know, I'm a teacher), but in their cases it's like school wide "avoid this kid and give him poo poo because he is visibly different than us". It's not just race, like was mentioned in the video with the North Korean kids being bullied and ostracized, it's anything that goes against the homogeneity. I was pretty flabbergasted to see a korean-chinese kid who was indistinguishable from anyone else (looked like a clone of this father) being totally avoided and given poo poo (apparently with the staff doing absolutely nothing about it) because the kids knew that. He was born and raised in Korea, had no accent, spoke little mandarin, but it was enough to be treated like a leper. I'm sure Grand Frommage could clarify if he happens by. JK Fresco posted:When white kids do it they're just being innocent kids Is this literally a, "And you are lynching Negroes" argument?
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I'm calling you out as white and racist anf also prokbsbly a loser
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JK Fresco posted:I'm calling you out as white and racist anf also prokbsbly a loser lol idiot
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JK Fresco posted:I'm calling you out as white and racist anf also prokbsbly a loser white people don't have a loving monopoly on racism, chief
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TheAardvark posted:white people don't have a loving monopoly on racism, chief They're first smong ewuals
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JK Fresco posted:I'm calling you out as white and racist anf also prokbsbly a loser i'm calling you out as white and racist and a loser and not funny stop drinking
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JK Fresco posted:They're first smong ewuals Learn to loving spell you sausage-fingered dolt.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Learn to loving spell you sausage-fingered dolt. No
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Woe thr whitr defenders hsve logged in. The litersl whitw knights?? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I think his body might have died but they transplanted his consciousness into a new identical one right before it happened.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Learn to loving spell you sausage-fingered dolt. I think you mean "sossage-fingered dolt".
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b-minus1 posted:Kim Jong Un-responsive
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순대 손가락
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I learned gimmick posting is funny to a point and then just gets really dumb from my good pal JK Fresco. Doesn't mean I'll stop doing it though.
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Chocobo posted:Listen guys, its true that he blew most of his father's inner circle to pieces with an anti-aircraft gun, You say that like it's a bad thing. Derpies posted:I learned gimmick posting is funny to a point and then just gets really dumb from my good pal JK Fresco. Doesn't mean I'll stop doing it though. Out of control alcoholism is a posting gimmick now? Cool! I have a gimmick!
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Les Os posted:순대 손가락 don't you mean 소시지 손가락
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Derpies posted:I learned gimmick posting is funny to a point and then just gets really dumb from my good pal JK Fresco. Doesn't mean I'll stop doing it though. As a fellow drunkard who has eaten most of my probes while completely blacked out, I salute him. He at least has the dignity of bad spelling and grammar to show he's hammered.
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I remember that there is a thriving black market for South Korean movies/tv shows. I can see that making a difference, so I'd love to hear more about it.
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Pouring out a warmbier for my boi Kim
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Yvershek posted:I remember that there is a thriving black market for South Korean movies/tv shows. I can see that making a difference, so I'd love to hear more about it. There have been cases of defectors listening to South Korean radio dramas when the jammers were down or they were out of range, and being floored when one of the characters would say something like, "help me carry the groceries in from the car, there are two more bags". During the famine in the 90s and early 00s the concept of a family having a car, and too much food for one person to carry was mind-blowing.
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buglord posted:Opened the thread expecting to see this dude. That thread was way way better than it had any right to be.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Even then there's at least a mild language barrier; I've heard North Korean now sounds old-timey compared to modern South Korean. The accent is noticeable, the big difference is South Korean is like, a third English loanwords now and North Korean has none (but does have some Russian ones). Pawn 17 posted:Here's an interesting piece on defectors trying to adjust to living in SK. I have read they face a lot of discrimination there. Yep, it's massive. After a few years in the south my North Korean friend wanted to immigrate to rural Canada and never, ever see another Korean of any sort the rest of his life. He vanished on me so I hope he achieved his dream. super sweet best pal posted:Isn't that how kids everywhere are? Not to the same level, and not with official sanction. The teachers often participate in and support the bullying. One of the schools I worked at had a bunch of mixed-race and a few Chinese-Korean kids and they were all horribly traumatized by the just never ending poo poo. Once I learned enough Korean to pick out the racial slurs I was floored and the teachers just gave me the nervous chuckle when I asked what the gently caress was going on. Eventually I got a talking to about how I was "disrupting" the school by trying to stop the bullying. Blistex posted:I was pretty flabbergasted to see a korean-chinese kid who was indistinguishable from anyone else (looked like a clone of this father) being totally avoided and given poo poo (apparently with the staff doing absolutely nothing about it) because the kids knew that. He was born and raised in Korea, had no accent, spoke little mandarin, but it was enough to be treated like a leper. Hey it's me. Yeah, I also had a Korean-Chinese kid who was abused every single day, non-stop. Basically imagine being in school in the US and there's one black kid in class, and all the students go out of their way to slap him constantly and shout "Shut up n-word" every time he talks and the teachers either do nothing, or take part in it themselves. Had a teacher at another school who would line up the kids who were mixed race and kick them in the stomach regularly to try to "ensure discipline".
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JK Fresco posted:Woe thr whitr defenders hsve logged in. The litersl whitw knights?? Sorry you're dying, Kim Jun Goon
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Maybe he shouldn't have been so fragile as to start dog whistling about "negroes" (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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JK Fresco posted:Maybe he shouldn't have been so fragile as to start dog whistling about "negroes" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes I was talking about racism in Korea, and you inferred that since it happens in the west. . .
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Akshually that's a logical phallusy I am very smart see? My best wishes for the fat Korean dude's quick recovery.
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Yolomon Wayne posted:How do you unfuck someone? How do you break someone off from someone they haven’t hosed yet? 
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Chrs posted:Did anything else come out about this or did we get those initial leaks and thats it? There’s a bunch of fake bluds in North Korea now or something because people got angry they couldn’t suck this one guys dick. Like just when we got over the Chinese ruk dealio finally too.
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