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My DREAMTREK is about the ship tasked with revisiting all the most dangerous poo poo all the other Treks discovered for basic follow-ups that any competent organization should be doing. I've always liked the headcanon of "Kirk's List", just a big star map of super-classified coordinates that correspond to all the evil gas monsters and time portal rocks and Billy Mumys the original Enterprise discovered and then abandoned. There ought to be evil Admirals chomping at the bit to weaponize them, or other loose ends unraveling dangerously all the time, and it's just never easy and usually goes very badly for everybody. Basically Wrath of Khan: the Show. I've gone in circles about this with Goons before but the thing I don't like about Star Trek is that the optimism feels unearned. These people just inherited a nice world and they don't have to do much to keep it, aren't interested in growing or advancing anything, they're really awful hollow mannequin people in upholstered clothes who just take everything for granted. Yeah there are occasionally minor challenges for these squeaky clean future people to deal with but they just pick them up and drop them whenever they feel like it, there's never any tension other than "will this desk stop shaking? I hope so! I will crouch here and emote at the shaking desk". There are almost never repercussions to insane poo poo like discovering wildly advanced technology or talking to literal gods, so it kinda feels like there are no repercussions to anything, which is just lame storytelling. I want a Trek with stakes that matter. Ideally I would also take away nonsense magitech like FTL and infinite power and teleporters and replicators but then it's really not Star Trek anymore, so I guess they can keep all their drama-destroying plot convenience toys. But that means the stakes should be even higher, not lower. I want a Trek where poo poo actually matters and things are hard.
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I want a show just about Vulcan. All the characters are Vulcan, we see Vulcan society with Starfleet, it wasn't blow'd up because this is Picard universe or whatever. But tie in all the other, surviving version of Vulcan, they got the big soul-backup rocks and computer-voice meditation games and penny-curtains like in the movies and they wear upholstery fabric and mill about in bazaars like in TNG, and there's sabre-tooth tigers for pets like in the animated series, just all the great Vulcan poo poo in one show about our first contact species and how they see Starfleet. If you got tired of being on a planet and want to get back to trek basics Defiant-style, make it a crew of all vulcans and one human who is like Anti-spock, he's always trying to get everybody to lighten up but there's frequent lessons about how he ought to embrace Vulcan ideals. Their Vulcan doctor calls him a red-blooded barbarian but the captain keeps his council for a valued different point of view, it'd be fun. Edit- instead of having Spock calculating odds, the Vulcan captain would always ask his human first mate "what does your human 'gut' say, number one?" and the Vulcans treat it like human magic being able to make calls without enough information. BoldFrankensteinMir fucked around with this message at 21:52 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 21:46
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Does NuTrek still produce things like books of ship blueprints? Things like that were my favorite parts of Star Trek and Star Wars, looking at carefully drawn exploded diagrams of engines and pinpointing where all the black boxes that run on fairy magic are.
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May 16, 2020 18:44
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nine-gear crow posted:Aside from Discovery's re-imagining of the original Enterprise and Disco itself, most of the ships in NuTrek kind of lackluster and stink of "video game NPC asset reuse that you're not supposed to see on screen for more than three seconds" compared to the post-First Contact non-hero ships. So they're not really the stuff you can publish metatextual blueprint books on or make Eaglemoss models out of. It was such an elegant system, you see a movie about spaceship models, you build those spaceship models. Eventually you make your own movies with your own spaceship models and it repeats. I don't think moving to CGI models should necessarily have made us care less about where the bathrooms and secret compartments in the pretty little ships are, should it? Edit- mind the walrus posted:e.g: "Why would we want to do that nerd poo poo?" attitude that permeates the first two NuTrek movies. I would totally buy E-books of that stuff too. But I see your point. BoldFrankensteinMir fucked around with this message at 23:02 on May 16, 2020 |
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May 16, 2020 23:00
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My dream trek takes place at Star Fleet Engineering and stars a class of wacky upstarts who dunk on the old ship designs all day, while Dean LaForge tries to keep order despite a campus-wide prank war!
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May 16, 2020 23:45
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Another thing I always wanted to see- the Eugenics war of 1997. Be bold about it, actually set it in 1997, just do like a Fallout thing where you directly tell the audience the timeline has shot off from reality, probably in 1986 when the time-traveling enterprise crew just flat-out handed future tech to human engineers. Maybe transparent aluminum was the missing piece to making Khan. Scotty wanted to save some whales but inadvertently caused SuperCrispr or whatever, we see society crumbling in what is supposed to be World War III, which finally ends in the terse trial that settles on the Botany Bay answer instead of just executing all the augments, and there are people saying "well what if they come back? What if somebody finds them???". And all that's left of pre-warp human culture is dispersed forest bands like Zefram Cochrane and his rocketeers. Too bad that second NuTrek movie ruined all of that, oh well!
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May 19, 2020 18:07
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I thought because Kirk defeated the Gorn there were no Gorn, it was a genocide-hanging-in-the-balance fist fight humans barely won with a gun made out of dirt.
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May 21, 2020 16:01
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Pick posted:They were squabbling over a single colony and Kirk let the Gorn go. Oh okay. Maybe I'm thinking of the stakes when Abe Lincoln was there? There were a number of magic clouds who set up outlandish odds for Kirk to haymaker his way through.
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May 21, 2020 16:11
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My DREAMTREK would be a TV Land original and we would have an astonishingly dense physical newsletter we mail out to the 200 people who came to the con.
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