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Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
I dont think the spoliers sound bad imo and i dont think the more outlandish ones are true trans evil character, christian bigot cult . But at the same time is really not an interesting story and im not interested in torture porn: the game specially if the core foundation is "humans are more bad than the mindless fungii zombie LOL"

then again the awful GOT season 8 spoilers were almost all true so who the gently caress knows

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Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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also making the player kill a beloved character has already been done ex: big boss killing his mentor.

holy gently caress mgs3 was a great game, one of my favorites

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Unrelated but all this last of us 2 trainwreck has me worried about cyberpunk 2077: i hope it doesnt get leaked to hell and that the folks at cdpr dont try to SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS and huff their own farts like Druckmann

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Ms Adequate posted:

Hmmm, I don't like a lot of what I'm hearing, but I do like seeing people get tortured, so what am I to do?

turn your monitor

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Nail Rat posted:

The Boss wasn't really in the same category as she didn't exist before that game. Also she spent most of the game beating the poo poo out of you. I was at best conflicted the first time through (before seeing the ending).

yeah, thats good storytelling

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Ruflux posted:

A story summary that is currently accepted as being the most accurate, pieced together from multiple different sources and accounting all of the footage etc. that's been leaked:



Wow this sounds like a loving mess

After brutally killing a bunch of people...what if both sides...are bad?!

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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CJ posted:

I feel like the better way to do it would be to have you play as Abby without know who she is at first, allowing you to empathise with her first before you realise she wants to kill Joel. Having her do that first seems like it would put the player off liking her, but we'll have to see how they handle it i guess.

DURKMANN or whatever is a loving moron. You totally can pull the play as a new character in a established setting and be the bad guy all along. KOTOR did it and that game still is regarded as one of the finest moment in game storytelling but
A) You need a game to support the story
B) You need good storytelling and not just exposition and torture porn

Zeta Acosta fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Apr 28, 2020

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
uncharted loving sucks, the entire saga what a waste of money

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
If a character doesnt have anything more going on for it than being a minority its a bad character.
People are more than being poor, black or gay. Just write good stories and you should be ok.

Gamers are idiots.

Zeta Acosta fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Apr 28, 2020

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari

halwain posted:

Obvious Spoiler in the Video

I guess this is the final confrontation between abby and Ellie/Dinah in German

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FcMcp-_-WI

this is disgusting what the gently caress?

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
also lol if cyberpunk 2077 comes out and manages to tell a mature story with engaging gameplay after naughty dog no fun allowed magnus opus

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Panzeh posted:

Yeah it was lame when bioshock did it, when spec ops the line did it, when far cry 3 did it, and it doesn't stop being a lame conceit. I'm still kinda okay with holding my judgement until I can see the story as a whole with respect to Last of Us 2(The original kinda works okay though the limited resource setpieces were way more interesting gameplaywise than the plot ended up being)

spec ops the line is 1000x the game that the last of us was. Didnt need the zombie setting and was actually honest about the horrors of the world, also it didnt pull out the "behind the monster there was a good person all along" cope out. Walker was a blood thirsty mercenary and he payed for it.

Zeta Acosta fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Apr 28, 2020

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari

Dewgy posted:

Well yeah, that's probably true of random mook #26 who Joel made eat a brick to the face too, but ain't nobody gettin' pissed off about him!

really makes u think- neil durkmann

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Yardbomb posted:

The fireflies sucked and killing them was pretty cool and good :shrug:

correct

Stux posted:

genuinely shocking to find out thru this thread people liked joel and/or thought he was good in any possible way lol

thats on naughty dog, they wrote the game that way. examples of awful character who arent good people
walker in specs ops the line
big boss in mgsv

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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titty fat pizza posted:

I disagree. Joel is the game. The original would not have been anywhere close to as good as it was without him. Joel redeemed himself through Ellie and now that and everything else they went through in part one means gently caress all. Playing as his killer for half of the game is the stupidest twist in any game ever. gently caress everything about it.

Joel didnt redeem himself. In fact he got worse.

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
Extreme pragmatism is not a good luck dude

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
TLOU wanted to be a movie so bad that it fails as a game because we cant control Joel or Ellie`s action regarding the final act. Of course i would have shot the doc and saved her but what if:
a) We let the fireflies go with their plan and it works?
b) those loving idiots kill a girl for nothing

Thats more interesting to me that what we got because it wasnt a game it was Durkmann story.


Also speaking of movies i really liked Maggie and i think its a better story than TLOU.

This scene is really sad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N4KPkoJf6c

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
Joel did nothing wrong but he isnt a good human being

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
https://twitter.com/LightGaia51/status/1254750888817758210

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Graphics and presentation are the only things where tlou shines imo. Mgsv, a game that i dont like, was better in this category.
The story Is good but as some dude say it starts to fall apart when you start thinking about it but its not Westworld levels of loving stupid
The gameplay sucks and disco elysium finally proved that if you are bold enough and trust your story you can totally remove the "shoot shoot" parts of your game

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Stux posted:

yeah im not saying tlou is anywhere near the level of fury "legitimately one of if not the best action film possibly ever" road dw lol

I went with my brother to see it and he wasnt so sure. After the desert twister scene we look eachother with a holy gently caress this is awesome. Top tier movie.

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Hacking the skull of the only supposed medical breaktrough on who knows how long doesnt seem really medical to me IMO

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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tlou3 what if people are bad...in space?!?!?!?

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
Or people hate the story and tank the IP like GOT season 8 or ME: Andromeda

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
tlou didnt need the zombie setting at all to tell the story they wanted to tell or a world ending scenario for that matter

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
Abby did nothing wrong

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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If the story is Abby went after Joel for killing his dad only for Ellie to turn sicko and goes on a rampage and THEN Abby goes Shao Kahn on her rear end im onboard. Im day one on tlou3 if the game is Abby going after Ellie just because she doesnt know when to loving stop.

Zeta Acosta fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Apr 30, 2020

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Brother Entropy posted:

i could forgive any plot if tlou2 was sympathy for lady vengeance starring abby

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Im going to be the contrarian: the uncharted series is loving trash also the bloody baron in witcher 3 is better than everything naughty dog has done so far

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Skippy McPants posted:

Like, here's what I expect from TLoU 2. It's somewhat speculative, but it's what I'd do if I had to write a lovely Revenge R Bad narrative.

Remake KOTOR I but with Abby as Revan

Also that leak video should have stayed. This is the spoilers thread for fucks sake.

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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GOT and TLJ were spoiled to hell and back with direct quotes, images, pictures et all. I dont know why this is different.

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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RevolverDivider posted:

You're completely insane.

Specs ops is just heart of darkness but integrates all its elements to form a coherent experience. From the type of game (shooter) to the story it tries to tell (war is bad and it will gently caress you up) all the decisions that the devs made enforce that narrative. Hell the more you play the more insane the game gets.
TLOU has the better production values but if you ask me: recomend a game that will make you think something more than just press the buttons i would say play specs ops first.
W3 and New Vegas (specially dead money) are my favorite games of all time so maybe what the gently caress do i know.

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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i must compose posted:

I mean it's a cool idea and it's a good story but the gameplay is trash. If you took away the story and just played the game it would be like a forgotten bargain bin game.

But enough about TLOU

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
they straight up glenn-ed poor Joel

i really liked the spit and the pendejo at the end, really thought provoking

Zeta Acosta fucked around with this message at 19:21 on May 1, 2020

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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blackguy32 posted:

I'm reading about this Neil Druckmann guy and he sounds kind of cool? I mean, Nadine was the best part about Uncharted 4 for me and the stories that I am reading about him trying his best to include more women characters that kind of go against gamer wants is awesome.

he drove a female women out of the studio, silenced and fired a woman who suffered sexual abuse and put his studio through crunch hell for this game

lol at this arrrrrr gamers crap out of 2012

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Unless there's another one, the person who filed the sexual harassment complaint was a man but yes otherwise true

i conflate the amy thing with the sexual assault one. nd is trash

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Good thing that since the events of the first game things improve enough that full equiped gyms and prom dances are in reach of large groups of the population

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Drinking my protein shake while i prepare myself to bench press 500 lbs

mmmm maybe hacking that poor girl brain wasnt necessary

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Ham posted:

You mean the first game that has entire cities still going? With possibly millions of inhabitants?

yeah that one, the last of us

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Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

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Zeta Acosta posted:

im thinking more about the narrative significance of a woman beating the poo poo out of two teens in graphic detail and almost killing them and not the physical representation of canon female bodies in videogames

Zeta Acosta fucked around with this message at 00:50 on May 2, 2020

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